Serial killers are just being true to their nature of wanting to rape and murder.
I now blame us as victims as we tolerate what they do to us.
Bad analogy? Just wonder not victims so much as accomplices?
I mean kind of extreme example but don't see as a valid counter.
As I pointed out Us meaning accomplices and not victims.
I can't really see people who are getting oppressed as "accomplices".
Sure there was that all internet based works where most the work done on the internet and many didn't even have to leave their computer or house to be heard. I wonder if the requirements to really stop it in it's tracks required individuals having to go out in the rain to garner signatures and spend hours on phone tree's and printing up flyers and handing them out on their weekends out at the malls. Going door to door knocking and holding meetings in schools to get the word out. Makes me wonder if it's success in stopping them would have came to be.
Firstly, a lot of people did leave the house during the ACTA threat. There were huge
demonstrations and protests all over Europe. People took to the streets and sent a very clear message to politicians, that this kind of behaviour won't be tolerated. Protest has always been a very important part of democracy, it's one of the most effective ways of influencing the political process.
Secondly, yes, it's easier to organize protests, easier to do activism of all kinds, with the internet - that's kind of my point, what I was talking about. Back in the 80s, 90s, if there was something like ACTA, being worked on in secret, and someone found out - how would they get the message accross, passing out flyers? There was no way to even get the word out on a global scale. Now, we have that, with the internet - and not only that, we have a huge array of tools for organizing protests. Earlier, if you had an organization, you had to spend big part of the budget in the infrastructure - for example, sending out snail mail to members, because there were no e-mail mailing lists.
The point is, the internet made it possible to repeal ACTA and SOPA. The internet enables political activism on a scale never seen before, and it's making some governments shake in their pants.
Would those same tactics used for SOPA and ACTA work with getting our children better education or better benefits or protect our retirements? Or holding Politicians or Corporate Board members accountable? I Think Not.
They are already working for it, to an extent. We have petitions that have influenced many important political decisions. The lack of boundaries in political discourse provided by the internet is making it harder to sweep things under the rug, and that accountability under public opinion is already making a difference.
Sure things are not perfect, but I think you're being too defeatist. Apathy is exactly the problem, people are apathetic because they think there's nothing they can do to change things. Well, there is, but nothing gets done if everyone sits around on their butts, thinking they can't do anything. Real Change doesn't come with sudden, grand gestures, or violent revolutions - it comes with the sum of many small changes, and every small thing helps a bit, even if it's just making your opinion heard on the internet. If you can change the mind of one person, that's already having an effect on the future.
Yes and because of the internet and grass roots that information is getting out. And seeing some good and some changes.
But then I ask myself when I see people watching it and becoming aware of the issues being appalled for 20 mins to a day. Then go back to there facebook page or tweet about for a bit then turn the channel to catch their "Breaking Bad" or "Dexter" episodes.
Would you rather people quit watching "Breaking bad" and "Dexter" in protest to all the things wrong with the world?
Not everyone is an activist. Many people can't realistically dedicate a large part of their lives fighting the system. Think of a single parent living in poverty, working in two jobs - they can't just drop everything to go occupying Wall Street. That's why it's good that we have many levels of participation: it's good that there's a way for people to contribute in various ways, big and small. Even if it's just showing your support by talking about it on facespace or something, that helps too - it influences the political atmosphere.
Sorry but I spent over 2 decades being an activist for OSPRIG,National Audubon Society as well as local groups to change education and job protections here in Oregon. And for all the effort of many like myself very little has change.
And now you have burn out and have become cynical? I'm sorry. I'm sure your efforts have had effect, even if it now looks like they didn't - you can't know how the world would look without those efforts - maybe things would be even worse now.
And even if they didn't, is that a good reason to just give up? I know first hand how it can seem depressing how there's so much really horrible stuff happening, but you have to cherish the small victories. Change is a continuous process, and the thing is, it will happen eventually - you can't stop progress even if you wanted to. The human society has continuously advanced towards more freedom, more equality - it's just hard for us to see because we didn't get to live 100 years ago and see what it was like. We take so many things for granted, when we should remember that we only have those things because people of the past have fought for them.
I'm certain that people who fought for women's rights, civil rights, end to segregation, etc. all felt at some point that it was hopeless, that there would never be any change to how things were. But eventually, when enough people got on their side, they managed to push through some very big changes in how our societies work. Because that's where the real battle is, in people's minds - that's the most important thing, convincing the people that a change is necessary - when you have that, the politics will follow inevitably. Sooner or later.