At first, FedoraRefugee, thanks for your posts, here and elsewhere.
FedoraRefugee wrote:To say that all Linux apps are crap is badly wrong. FF, Gimp, Scribus, Blender, Compiz-Fusion, and K3b are just a few that spring to mind, a few that I always use.
Ok but they are not "only" Linux apps. You can find them on Windows too... And even if I use Firefox for instance I don't consider it like really "good". For me, Mozilla Foundation kills it progressively. Sorry for the verb "kill" but my limited vocabulary doesn't permit to find another manner to talk. But the spirit is here.
Often I prefer use Opera which is maybe a better browser and with less security issues.
FedoraRefugee wrote:OTOH, the fact still remains that because FOSS is scattered around the world instead of under the umbrella of a single company it will lack guidance.
FedoraRefugee wrote:By freedom I meant that the end user is free to pick and choose what works for him.
Ok but what when nothing is really good? When the choice is just to choose the least bad?
FedoraRefugee wrote:I do not like big, convoluted apps like Amarok and rhythmbox.
Me too but I prefer AlsaPlayer. I hate Amarok and like.
FedoraRefugee wrote:I have not found a comparable app in Windows
Have you tried Foobar2000?
FedoraRefugee wrote:Linux allows a user to tailor the whole OS how they feel things should be. I do not have pulseaudio on my Arch install, nor do I have the other two and a half tons of crap most distros force on you. I like this. You cannot strip Windows to this extent Windows lives in a bundled world.
I agree with you but not a newbie or an average user who can do that. And how long this will still be possible with all the crap which appear regularly? When even an important project like GNOME for instance depend more and more on this crap? XFCE is maybe less affected and a better choice for now, especially if you look at Gnome 3 or KDE 4, but for how long yet?
Oh and I have never said that Windows is the ideal but when you look at some/many things in the open source you can say/think it is perhaps " the least bad" choice...
Oh and yes Pulseaudio is crap.
FedoraRefugee wrote:Truth be told, I liked Linux better a few years ago when most devs still had a modular mentality. It seems Gnome has led a charge that Fedora and Ubuntu have followed. A charge to become a bundled, Windows like OS. It is still Linux, it can still be modified and tweaked, though removing things like Gnome and mono become harder all the time. I would prefer if we could go back to what Linux once was.
Thank you for that, to say these things in this way. I am like you about this!
To borrow a quote from a web post that I made in my post here
Even for the #1 DE (#1 in North America), that is GNOME, and despite the involvement of several IT companies (including RHAT), the development and the maintenance are barely decent. Hundreds of unfixed bugs since ages, even for simple software like Gedit! And, after how many years was the Compact view added to Nautilus? Plus, it was an individual effort -- none of the big companies ever bothered (and this includes RHAT).
It also takes/took ages for NetworkManager to be usable.
Outside the DE, OO.o is such a lame alternative to MS Office that it makes me puke -- enough to say that I have to switch the paper format from Letter to A4 for each and every new Writer document (MS Word has a single-click button that makes this option as default for the Default template; I couldn't find a way to do the same in oowriter). This is AN ELEMENTARY NEED and Microsoft figured out the proper solution decades ago: and here it is
Too complex for the Sun/Novell/etc. guys who screw Oo.o, eh?
Linux is a better choice because it's free and flexible. Otherwise, its desktop-related components (being it about X.Org, GNOME, KDE, XFCE, major apps) are so bug-ridden that the single argument in their favor is this one: they're open source.
Big, big, big names: Intel, Red Hat, Novell, IBM, etc. etc. etc. are making money from Linux and Linux apps, yet this software sucks, sucks, sucks
Companies can't fix this. Individuals can't fix this -- it looks like crazy individuals like you guys are only motivated by "bleeding-edge stuff", so NO ONE will volunteer for a MAINTENANCE task, just admit it, dammit!
It's maybe a little harsh but at least it's clear.
the real pattern is "design by committee". Even if it's not "by committee", the mere fact that 1-100 developers of a major DE can impose their "vision" to millions of users makes me think that the only disadvantage of Windows is that it's not free. The "open" in "open source" is useless -- who can afford to maintain a fork/branch of a project, once its developers get high and take wrong decisions? NOBODY. (As in "nobody adopted KDE3 for further maintaining".)
I hate the open source developers who are always high and trying to "invent things" nobody asked for.
Sorry for duplicates.
FedoraRefugee wrote:One last note, Linux developers are indeed being paid these days. The days of one or two private developers or even small groups is disappearing. Red Hat, Novell, Canonical, IBM...They have taken Linux over. The code may be free and the home distros may not cost anything, but the developers are now corporate. Projects like Pulseaudio and Packagekit are squeezing everyone else out. Gnome has become the enemy. Freedom never lasts...
I'm sorry if my words now are a little "rude", harsh but I must say it when I see some reactions from some/many people, developers (or not) of the open source world when you criticize the work of the "marvelous developers", when you get "attacked", sometimes almost insulted, because you have the misfortune to criticize "what they do for you in their spare time": "Microsoft's developers are more polite and less arrogant than the open-source developers. With closed-source software, the top management is arrogant, not the developers per se."EDIT
. About "Linux developers are indeed being paid these days":
75% of Linux code is now written by paid developers, according to kernel hacker Jonathan Corbet
(Also at http://apcmag.com/linux-now-75-corporate.htm
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