vtired wrote:Now since the base of Ubuntu is based on Debian, is there a way I can peel off what is Ubuntu and remain only with Debian only?
Robin wrote:vtired wrote:Now since the base of Ubuntu is based on Debian, is there a way I can peel off what is Ubuntu and remain only with Debian only?
That's an interesting idea, since alot of people have trouble with installing Debian, but want "pure Debian" with none of the Ubuntu stuff. I wonder if simply installing Ubuntu or Mint and then changing the etc/apt/sources.list to only Debian (let's say "testing") sources would work or if it would break something.
FedoraRefugee wrote:But if you install Mint (or Ubuntu) then you still have the Ubuntu base.
There are two choices here; roll your own or try one of the existing Mint/debian spins and update it. I would suggest the first. Just install debian then install the Mint repo. That would get you the Mint tools. But...As Robin mentions, the debian install is not as simple as Mint. I honestly do not know why so many (even including Linus Torvaldes apparently ) have such a problem installing it, but I am just an elitist jerk according to many so maybe it is much harder than I believe...But that is another story...Anyway, I feel debian is just as easy to install as most other distros, you just have to understand the options.
FedoraRefugee wrote:The truth is it depends on the person not the distro.
linuxviolin wrote:Well, Debian install is not difficult... Plus now you have a graphical installer. Fedora is also quite simple to install, even to encrypt your hard disk is very simple, just a box to check. Btw, it's probably the most simple installer to encrypt your system, other distros should take example! Anaconda is probably one of the best installers.
Robin wrote:I still think that installing a basic working Debian from the net-install CD is a piece of cake.
vtired wrote:Finally managed to install Debian Lenny, using the installer disc, and getting packages from the INTERNET. Only that for not knowing where to install GRUB, when the system boots it doesn't see Linux mint that was already there.
The next challenge is installing it without Internet connection. When I get to the download page I get 'Index of /debian-cd/5.0.4/i386/iso-cd', [DIR] Parent Directory -
[ ] MD5SUMS 02-Feb-2010 15:06 2.5K
[ ] MD5SUMS.sign 22-Feb-2010 00:16 197
[ ] SHA1SUMS 02-Feb-2010 15:06 2.8K
[ ] SHA1SUMS.sign 22-Feb-2010 00:16 197
[ ] debian-504-i386-CD-1.iso 31-Jan-2010 20:05 646M
[ ] debian-504-i386-CD-2.iso 31-Jan-2010 20:10 646M
[ ] debian-504-i386-CD-3.iso 31-Jan-2010 20:11 648M
From there I don't know what next because the first CD only runs as live Debian CD and has no option for installation. The Debian installation tutorial doesn't tell what to do after that. That's what makes installation difficult for anyone, you get to a point where you don't know what next and the tutorial you are following assumes you know what next or that it should be obvious to you.
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