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The coolest mockup in the world

Postby molom on Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:55 am

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php? ... ost3901614

Will this be a new innovation for linux?
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Re: The coolest mockup in the world

Postby carlos on Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:53 am

Could be a real innovative concept if some one where to make it for linux.
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Re: The coolest mockup in the world

Postby molom on Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:16 pm

Yeah I would love it if it came true. There's already one called The Brain, but it lacks looks and usability.
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Re: The coolest mockup in the world

Postby belovedmonster on Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:40 am

Can someone explain to me why I would wanna waste time following node trees when I can just click on a folder and see all the files arranged in front of me.
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Re: The coolest mockup in the world

Postby lakehousetech on Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:18 pm

I have to agree. Most often simpler is better. Anyhow, having that fancy program would affect performance.
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Re: The coolest mockup in the world

Postby molom on Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:43 pm

Normally node trees or graphical trees are the best way to find things. Imagine brainstorming for a linux project right... You normally have a good set out to know where everything goes and you are less cluttered. With this mockup you have more of a visual image of where your documents, movies and so on are. I personally prefer this for work and multimedia purposes. I find it more organized. I definitely know that it could be a cpu consumer, but there's always room for improvement, e17 has very complicated effects and eyecandy and it's faster than any other KDE/Gnome eyecandy. I know that folders and clicking on files are preferred by some people, but with this tree all you have to do is scroll and click. It's a lot easier than clicking folder after folder and trying to remember, which folder is in which other directory. I just find it easier to know where my files are, I don't have a very structural memory. It's a lot like that Mac OS program on itunes called cover flow, I find it useless and a CPU consumer, but others mind find it to be a visual image of where their albums are located.

I am not saying it's better for everyone. I'm saying it's better for some. I appreciate your comments.
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Re: The coolest mockup in the world

Postby nelamvr6 on Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:44 am

Um, that's the coolest mock-up in the world?

No. I personally don't think much of it...
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Re: The coolest mockup in the world

Postby molom on Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:25 am

nelamvr6 wrote:Um, that's the coolest mock-up in the world?

No. I personally don't think much of it...


Do you want me to place a 'In my opinion' on the title. ;)

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Re: The coolest mockup in the world

Postby belovedmonster on Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:09 am

The problem is not whether this is a better way to organise information or not but that it will be a pain to navigate around with a mouse. Imagine having to scroll around all your files as if it was a google map, zooming in and out and dragging the view around... no thank you!
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Re: The coolest mockup in the world

Postby molom on Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:11 am

belovedmonster wrote:The problem is not whether this is a better way to organise information or not but that it will be a pain to navigate around with a mouse. Imagine having to scroll around all your files as if it was a google map, zooming in and out and dragging the view around... no thank you!


I completely respect your opinion. I just want to say that there would be eventually a solution. I prefer it, but there will always be a disadvantage on one and a disadvantage on the other. I would like to see an innovation for this mockup, but this doesn't mean the present navigation system will disappear some day if it ever happens. I don't want to convince you in any way it's better for you to use this. It's better for some, but not all. I just like it, its just my opinion.

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Re: The coolest mockup in the world

Postby Kynan on Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:33 am

its just arranging the folders in a circle instead of rows right?... the disadvantage being that it takes up more space so you might have to scroll in and out to see them all illegibly (tho you already do this with rows to scroll down its just your used to it), looks confusing initially but probably ok after a while, alphabetical order could still be kept (they could start with a up top and go around clockwise to z).

It's definitely visually nicer with the artwork, but a row type list is probably more functional and could also be rather nice with the same artwork. I wouldn't mind trying before buying so to speak. That's if anyone was interested in making it...
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Re: The coolest mockup in the world

Postby Acid7711 on Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:51 pm

I feel like I've seen something like this before, only in a video. It feels very messy and unorganized to me. Feels unmanageable a little too. Maybe it's just me.
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Re: The coolest mockup in the world

Postby molom on Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:01 am

Acid7711 wrote:I feel like I've seen something like this before, only in a video. It feels very messy and unorganized to me. Feels unmanageable a little too. Maybe it's just me.


Maybe it's just you ;)
I know some people would find it unmanageable, but some will like it. It's just a concept to inspire and talk about.

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Re: The coolest mockup in the world

Postby Acid7711 on Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:58 pm

molom wrote:
Acid7711 wrote:I feel like I've seen something like this before, only in a video. It feels very messy and unorganized to me. Feels unmanageable a little too. Maybe it's just me.


Maybe it's just you ;)
I know some people would find it unmanageable, but some will like it. It's just a concept to inspire and talk about.

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I realize this, and it's why I posted my feelings on it :D After all, that's why there are a bazillion desktop environments and window managers.
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Re: The coolest mockup in the world

Postby molom on Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:57 pm

Acid7711 wrote:
molom wrote:
Acid7711 wrote:I feel like I've seen something like this before, only in a video. It feels very messy and unorganized to me. Feels unmanageable a little too. Maybe it's just me.


Maybe it's just you ;)
I know some people would find it unmanageable, but some will like it. It's just a concept to inspire and talk about.

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I realize this, and it's why I posted my feelings on it :D After all, that's why there are a bazillion desktop environments and window managers.


That's completely understandable. When you have any time try out Mint e17 beta, which is going to be released soon. Here is some artwork if you want to know what it will look like ( viewtopic.php?f=106&t=7292&hilit=e17 ). It's going to be a very nice distro.

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Re: The coolest mockup in the world

Postby Acid7711 on Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:21 am

I loved e17 when I was trying it, but I kept managing to crash it. I love what's been done so far, i just wish it was more 'ready' for the desktop. Ahh yes, I stumbled upon those a couple days ago, look nice.
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Re: The coolest mockup in the world

Postby molom on Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:15 am

@Acid
How did you manage to crash it so often? Is it a recent version of e17? And what distro were you using? At the moment e17 is pretty much stable, it just has a lack of other DE features, like a system tray and so on. But it still has a taskbar for other people who are used to KDE, Gnome, XFCE and Windows.

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Re: The coolest mockup in the world

Postby Acid7711 on Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:44 pm

I don't remember. Honestly, I go many months between testing out E17 releases, and am always real impressed with the updates but it always does crash at least a couple times as I'm fiddling with new things. Don't get me wrong, I love it and can't wait, but it is lacking quite a few things that I've become accustomed to in say Gnome or KDE for instance. I do understand this software has still not even reached alpha level quality, and what I see is impressive, but that kinda adds to my thoughts about it not being 100% ready for day to day use.

Oh, almost forgot. This was under Arch, but some odd months ago I gave it a shot under Ubuntu I believe too.
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Re: The coolest mockup in the world

Postby molom on Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:38 am

e17 is definately not a full DE yet. It will be pretty much like XFCE in six months. But to be a full DE like KDE or Gnome I think it will take a year and six months. I wouldn't rely on Arch for e17. I say you would have to use something like elive, gOS or Geubuntu. But none of those are polished distros, which is why I joined with the Mint e17 development team.
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Re: The coolest mockup in the world

Postby D-EJ915 on Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:48 am

SGI had something like this in Irix like 10 years ago, it's not practical at all to be perfectly honest.
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