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still don't understand how to install.

Postby congresstart on Thu May 15, 2014 6:04 am

this is yet another plea for help in installing something. i simply don't understand how to do it. to me it seems unnecessarily difficult compared to windows. why not make it as simply as possible?

i've just download the opera browser for linux.
i now have an opera folder on the deskstop and also another opera icon that says tar bzz or similar.

i click on the folder mentioned above and go to another folder that has has lib, intall, share, opera.
i've clicked on them and get asked if i wish to run or display.

i have no idea what is going on!!!

i know there are installation guides but i don't find them easy enough to follow. i don't know the terminology that gets mentioned, things that most here would know easily.
can someone give me a simple step by step guide on how to install software that i do not get from the software manager please?
no abbreviations, no initials, etc.
there must be 2 or 3 things a person has to do each time they wish to install and use something.
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Re: still don't understand how to install.

Postby administrollaattori on Thu May 15, 2014 6:16 am

If you downloaded Opera from Opera´s own site, you can install opera.deb package using GDebi.
32-bit -> http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?os ... 6&list=all
64-bit -> http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?os ... 4&list=all

PS. Opera is found in the package management also.
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sudo apt-get install opera
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Re: still don't understand how to install.

Postby norm.h on Thu May 15, 2014 6:19 am

I have Opera in my Software Manager
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Re: still don't understand how to install.

Postby karlchen on Thu May 15, 2014 6:52 am

congresstart wrote: to me it seems unnecessarily difficult compared to windows. why not make it as simply as possible?
What can be easier and more straight forward than launching "Software Manager", locating the software that you want and having "Software Manager" install it for you?
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Re: still don't understand how to install.

Postby Reorx on Thu May 15, 2014 8:11 am

congresstart wrote:this is yet another plea for help in installing something. i simply don't understand how to do it. to me it seems unnecessarily difficult compared to windows. why not make it as simply as possible?

i've just download the opera browser for linux.
This is where you took your first left turn! Thinking like a windoze user you looked "online" for the software you wanted! ALWAYS look first in Synaptic (if you know the name) or Software Manager (if you don't know the name) of software that you seek... the repositories are huge! Odds have it that the software you seek is in the repos... if it is, installation is a click (or 2) away... :mrgreen: (only search the internet for software if you can't find it in the repos.)

In this case Opera is in the repos... since you know the name - open Synaptic and type "opera" in the search field. in the scrolling box below, click Opera and select "mark for installation", then in the menu above click "Apply"... watch the magic happen... when it stops, you will have Opera installed and ready to use...

Go gett'em tiger... :mrgreen:
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Re: still don't understand how to install.

Postby jijames on Thu May 15, 2014 9:10 am

Hi congresstart,
Like the other posts say, one of the easiest ways to install software in Linux Mint is to use the "Software Manager". In Cinnamon it is under "Menu -> Administration -> Software Manager". The "Menu" is a lot like the "Start" menu in Windows. When you start the "Software Manager" you will be asked for your password.

From the Software Manager you can search for all packages that are maintained in various repositories*. From the screenshot, just type in 'Opera' where the magnifying glass is, and hit enter. Double click the program you want to install, and click the "Install" button.

There are a lot of programs available in the Software Manager, and these are by far the easiest to install. You will always automatically get the version of the program that works with your system.
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However, sometimes you might want to install programs from other places. For example, if the program is not listed in the Software Manager. In this case, you want to look for files with the extension ".deb". This basically like an installer file. In Linux Mint you can just double-click on (trusted) .deb files, and it will ask if you want to install the program.

When choosing a .deb to download, you often need to know about your operating system, ie. 32bit/64bit, OS version, dependent software versions. If the .deb file is not compatible with your system, it will probably not install. If it does install and is not comparable, the program will probably just not run.
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Other than the Software Manager and installing from a .deb, you can also install software from source. Normally source files come in something like "tar", "bz", etc. These files are basically like "zip" files. That is why when you open it there are more files inside. Compiling from source is definitely the most difficult way to install software, but sometimes you might want to. See this link for an introduction: http://www.wikihow.com/Compile-a-Program-in-Linux
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To recap:
1) Try to find the software you want with the Software Manager. If it is not there...
2) Try to find a .deb package of the software (for your system) from the vendor's website. Download it, and double click on it to install. If all else fails...
3) Download the "source" files (like tar, tar.gz, zip, etc), unpack the software and build it [instructions above]


*to learn more about repositories you might start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
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Re: still don't understand how to install.

Postby congresstart on Thu May 15, 2014 9:57 am

many thanks to everyone.
yes you're correct, i do forget to see if the software i'm after is right under my nose!

cheers.
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