r1bby wrote:Hi, newbie here (week old), I've managed to install LM, I have installed the OS onto the HDD, the graphics card is working & firefox internet is also working, trouble is I now need directing on how to install third party software. I use the install manager, install downloaded programs, only to find all the files are greyed out and I am unable to load them, am I doing something wrong? I try logging on as 'root' and my password (as set up in user section) and it says invalid. I can't log on as Root at all is this normal? Should I be logging on as Root or through my normal user?
For day to day use you should log in as the user you created when you installed.
You only need to log in as "root" or "become root" via the sudo command for certain situations.
IF you activated the root account like a normal *nix then your have two users setup after the install.
User1: user: r1bby password: r1bbypassword
User2: user: root password: rootpassword
Ideally these should be two separate passwords.
So if you log in as root then you need roots password NOT your password, unless of course they are the same.
r1bby wrote: Are there *.exe style files that load programs that I should be looking for or does it not work that way?
Doesn't work that way in linux. An executable file can have a lot of names, not just *.exe whether a file is executable is controlled by its permissions:
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-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 52336 2007-07-31 08:13 top
all the stuff on the left side are the permissions, they indicate various things about the file like if its a directory, if its readable, writable, and executable and by who.
This example shows the top program which shows stats about the running process, you see the x in the permissions and this is an executable. Its not named, top.exe just top . It COULD be named top.exe, but you would run it as top.exe not just top
See Unix Permissions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions
*** PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS ARE BASED ON a Linux Mint Daryna KDE CE DVD Install *** I know nothing about gnome editions *****
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r1bby wrote:The files I am trying to load are adobe acrobat,
On the right side you will see:
Latest Downloads and a cute little penquin.
In that table, find the one that says "deb"
Click on it and and menu will come up asking what you want to do.
Save As Open With KPackage Cancel
Click on the Open with KPackage option.
The file will download and then you will have the option to do the actual install.
Click Install and then Install on the next window. This will do the actual install.
Click done after it installs the program.
r1bby wrote: scanner driver software
You need to install sane for scanning.
Especially check the following to make sure your device is supported:http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html
Click on the LM Button in the bottom left corner, then click System, then click Add/Remove Programs to start the adept manager.
You will be asked for the ROOT PASSWORD to start the adept program. Again root's password, not your user password.
Enter sane in the search box, and then put a check mark next to the sane program that comes up, then click apply changes to install.
r1bby wrote: I fancy installing the compiz based OS attachment
Afraid I can not help on this one. I don't use it.
r1bby wrote: but going to their main website and trying to find an 'install here' type button is not there. Is this normal for Linux based software, am I expecting too much or looking for a windows style answer? I have no idea!? I know it's my mindset, but where to start...
Basically forget everything you know about installing programs from the winslop world. It doesn't exist in *nix. There are similar steps, but none exactly like it.
There is not normally a "Install here" type link. You will be presented with a download option and then you might be presented with the following choices, as examples:
Source or tarball with a name like superduperprogram.tar.gz
RPM with a name like supderduperprogram.rpm
DEB with a name like superduperprogram.deb
You can use EITHER an Source/tarball or DEB. You can NOT USE RPM's (there are steps for more advanced users later, for now look for DEB or Source/tarball)
If you click on a deb you will get an option like adobe to use KPackage and install. Deb's are pretty close to the installer type programs you probably more familar with on winslop.
If you find a program your first choice probably should be to run Add/Remove software aka Adept and see if it will come up in a search there as it will be much easier to install and less chance of problems. Then fall back to download a DEB then a Source/Tarball.
r1bby wrote:Also opening screens and typing DOS style stuff is new to me (for want of a better explanation, many years win XP user - sorry!)
Just be aware that for alot of things in *nix this is the only way to do things, somethings its also quicker to do things in Konsole or command line interface aka cli mode. All depends on the task.
Example your going to have to use the konsole application to install source/taraball apps.
r1bby wrote:so if you can explain things easier / lamens terms / direct me to helpful websites, (rather than 'just google it')
Thats one of my huge pet peeves, if they ever make it so you reach thru the net and smack people up side the head ala Gibbs there are going to be some really sore heads out there. You notice this post provides the links and details. If I don't know anything about it I say so ala compiz, ipod, bluetooth.
r1bby wrote:I have found loads but all too vague and they never answer my questions about installing software in a novice style manner.
Alot of *nix users have an unfair advantage that they either been using *nix or some other OS like VMS and are intimate with the command line. I've done my share of it, and will admit that winslop has made me sloppy from my very cli laden and effective 4DOS setup before winslop took over.
r1bby wrote:I also could do with guidance / directions on how to install bluetooth (I have a dongle), iTunes/iPod, & win based software. Ideally I want to part ways with Win XP, and transfer everything across.
Another area I can not help in as I don't use bluetooth devices, or itunes or ipods. I think amarok and Rhythmbox have ways to connect ipod devices to transfer stuff. Hopefully one of the media players gurus will chime in.