Hi, Orbmiser, and thank you for your reply.
Orbmiser wrote:When selecting where to install choose "Something Else" which allows you to create partitions.
Gotcha, I always do that part.
Orbmiser wrote:One solution is to have separate partition for /home from root. In which case 20gb for / "root" and rest as separate partition as /home and of course a 4gb swap partition is sufficient.
20 gigabytes is enough for the main (/) partition? IOW, you think it very unlikely that he will ever find himself installing more than 20 gigs' (minus however much room is taken up by the base install) worth of applications? I had been sort of wondering if 1
20 gig would be sufficient for /, lol. (It is a 640 gB hard drive, so I suppose I could make it 120 gB if necessary.)
Orbmiser wrote:/ partition
That would certainly solve the question of how best to integrate the "data" partition into his system, because since the extra partition would be his /home directory, it would automatically set itself up so that those sub-directories (/Video, /Documents, et cetera) would be where the data was stored. So that part is great.
However, I find myself with more than a little trepidation when considering that idea. I have always done clean installations of newer versions of linux (even when sticking with the same distro, such as when I went from Ultimate Edition 2.3 to 2.4). And by "clean," I mean exactly that; directing the installer's partitioning tool to reformat my / partition (before, I always just left /home in / instead of setting it up in a separate partition). My reasoning was that it was no great hardship to configure my new system to suit me - and it was often fun, lol, since a new version often brought new features). And this way I never ran into the (possible?) situation of having issues because something had changed enough that the old configuration files wouldn't make sense to the new version of the OS and/or apps, that kind of thing. Thoughts on that, anyone?
Orbmiser wrote:Advantage is every changing distro's or need to do a clean install of distro you can install or overwrite / "root" and everything is safe on /home and no need to create a /home just point clean install at it and re-assign /home and then just don't format it when doing a clean install.
It's not really
100% clean if you are reusing all of your old settings/configuration files, is it? I have often wondered why the /home/user and the /home/user/"all the data directories" weren't separated, why there wasn't a separate /home/username directory for the configuration/settings and a /user_data_storage/username/Documents (etc.). That way, we could easily choose between keeping everything in one partition, keeping everything but our data in one partition, or having all three sets of directories in their own.
Orbmiser wrote:The other way is one partition for / and /home and leave the rest as a data partition which gives you advantage when dual booting windows & linux as you can make it ntfs accessible by both OS'es.
That's a thought, and one I am considering. And, as far as that goes, it isn't even necessary to format the data partition as NTFS, since we have long been able to spend a minute or less downloading a file that adds ext2/ext3 filesystem compatibility to Microsoft Windows OS. I am not sure about ext4, but I haven't used that anyway. But it does seem like it would add a layer of protection (vs. just accessing the data if it were all in the one partition, which would allow for a messed-up Microsoft OS to screw it up, lol).
That part of it is sort of moot right now, because, well... The laptop he purchased seems like a wonderful one and nice value for the price ($500 US), but it came with Microsoft Windows 8 preinstalled. And UEFI enabled. And it is a Samsung, lol. So, rather than take a very real chance of turning it into a doorstop due to Samsung's faulty implementation of that, I ended up turning it off in the BIOS menu and formatting the entire hard drive for linux. I did not wish to do so - he purchased something that included a feature (+/-, lol) and I removed that feature.
I will be emailing Samsung to explain what we did - and WHY - and asking them to send him a Windows 8 installation disc for free, since the only reason it is now missing from his hard drive is due to their bug(s). But I have never been very good at that sort of thing and fear that I will be unsuccessful in getting Samsung to do so. If anyone has had good luck with something like this, I would be very appreciative if you provided some helpful suggestions. My friend was "a bit put out" when I told him that I removed Win8; when I explained why I did it, he was not mad, but still disappointed.
To further digress for a moment, I played with Win8 for a little while before I wiped it, and I did not see what all the negative rep is about. It looked nice to me (for a Microsoft OS, I mean) and if I were not aware of linux I would consider it a nice upgrade from Vista and XP. It comes looking like it is for touchscreen devices, but I found the regular menu setup within seconds without reading any manual (which nobody ever seems to include with anything any more). I found myself switching back and forth between the tiled setup and the old-school setup without minding. And the entire (admittedly short) time I got to spend with it, I had that "kid in a candy store" feeling that I have whenever I get to play with a neat new gadget. Of course, being able to choose only one OS, Microsoft or linux, well... As I said, the first thing I did during installation was completely format his hard drive, lol. Speaking of choice, I must give credit where credit is due: Microsoft seems to be 100% behind this new "tiles" (charms?!?
:rolleyes: ) desktop, but even so, they decided to give their users a choice
in the matter. Perhaps they learned this from seeing how happy us linux users are? But, yeah, kudos to Microsoft for that.
Orbmiser wrote:And no 64bit is the way to go and irrelevant the program you install is 32 or 64bit they all will run on 64bit.
Thank you for that reassurance. I was thinking that I read somewhere that certain applications (which are only available in 32-bit flavors) were problematic when the user attempted to use them in a 64-bit environment. Skype was mentioned, I think, which is one that my friend has already expressed an interest in getting, but I thought there were others mentioned as well. So I misread, then?
Again, thank you - and anyone else who choses to post in this thread - for helping me. And I'd like to mention that I really think this "newbie" forum is a great idea. People like myself, our first experience on forums like this one is because we start out with a lot of questions and this way we can get help with everything at once without having to post each specific separate question in its own thread. Which means that we can get all of that taken care of and get to using/enjoying the "regular forums" that much faster. It also means that our first impression is that much more positive. :thumbsup:
You know, when I said in my first post (I think?) that I had never cared for the color green, I was making a vast understatement. But my initial experiences with both linux Mint (Xfce) and this forum have been so positive that I am already at the point that I no longer mind the color green (not sure it will ever become my favorite color, but it's okay).
One last unrelated question: I seem to be unable to find the setting in my User CP that allows me to be automatically subscribed to threads that I create or post in. I also don't see an option to subscribe to a thread whilst viewing the thread. Can someone point me in the right direction?