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really stupid newbie

Postby jim maclinux on Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:33 pm

i had tried linux cinnamon on friends PC and thought it great - s must have replacement for VIsta on one of our laptops.

i downloaded a copy, all looked great but i cant get my Wifi internet, and it wont let me download anything, or at least anything i can open.

any very basic suggestions please, i am not IT literate

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Re: really stupid newbie

Postby kc1di on Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:11 pm

Hello jim maclinux and welcome to Mint,
It would be helpful to know what wireless card is in you machine.

if you do not know you can go to a terminal and type
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lspci

Then post the results here.
will try to help. Is it possible to get a hardwire connection (Ethernet)? if so it may be a simple as installing the correct drivers for your
card.
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Re: really stupid newbie

Postby jim maclinux on Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:04 pm

i found this - is this what i need ?

lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 4 (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.3 USB controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e1)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7-M Family) SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family SMBus Controller (rev 01)
03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)
03:01.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller
03:01.1 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 19)
03:01.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 0a)
03:01.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev 05)
0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01
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Re: really stupid newbie

Postby jim maclinux on Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:08 pm

i forgot to mention, i can get internet on a hard wire connection - other pc's in house are still getting wireless
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Re: really stupid newbie

Postby cecar on Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:26 pm

jim maclinux wrote:i forgot to mention, i can get internet on a hard wire connection - other pc's in house are still getting wireless
regards
Jim


Connect with wire. Open terminal and do.

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sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer


Reboot and try if wireless works.
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Re: really stupid newbie

Postby jim maclinux on Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:47 pm

no luck - wireless stil not operating - this is what i got when i ran the text- mentions a segmentation fault at the end if that is significant

jim@jim-MM061 ~ $ sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[sudo] password for jim:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
b43-fwcutter
The following NEW packages will be installed
b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 577 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 22.4 kB of archives.
After this operation, 111 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main b43-fwcutter i386 1:015-9 [18.9 kB]
Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/multiverse firmware-b43-installer all 1:015-9 [3,524 B]
Fetched 22.4 kB in 0s (65.1 kB/s)
Selecting previously unselected package b43-fwcutter.
(Reading database ... 141829 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking b43-fwcutter (from .../b43-fwcutter_1%3a015-9_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously unselected package firmware-b43-installer.
Unpacking firmware-b43-installer (from .../firmware-b43-installer_1%3a015-9_all.deb) ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Setting up bcmwl-kernel-source (6.20.155.1+bdcom-0ubuntu0.0.1) ...
Removing old bcmwl-6.20.155.1+bdcom DKMS files...

-------- Uninstall Beginning --------
Module: bcmwl
Version: 6.20.155.1+bdcom
Kernel: 3.2.0-23-generic (i686)
-------------------------------------

Status: Before uninstall, this module version was ACTIVE on this kernel.

wl.ko:
- Uninstallation
- Deleting from: /lib/modules/3.2.0-23-generic/updates/
- Original module
- No original module was found for this module on this kernel.
- Use the dkms install command to reinstall any previous module version.

depmod........

DKMS: uninstall completed.

------------------------------
Deleting module version: 6.20.155.1+bdcom
completely from the DKMS tree.
------------------------------
Done.
Loading new bcmwl-6.20.155.1+bdcom DKMS files...
First Installation: checking all kernels...
Building only for 3.2.0-23-generic
Building for architecture i686
Building initial module for 3.2.0-23-generic
Done.

wl:
Running module version sanity check.
- Original module
- No original module exists within this kernel
- Installation
- Installing to /lib/modules/3.2.0-23-generic/updates/

depmod....

DKMS: install completed.
Segmentation fault
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Re: really stupid newbie

Postby catweazel on Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:29 pm

jim maclinux wrote:
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0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01

I don't like to jump in on threads where people are already getting help but I'll make an exception to get you running quickly. You will need to plug that machine into a wired lan and do this in a terminal:
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apt install firmware-b43-installer

That should be all that's needed.
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Re: really stupid newbie

Postby cecar on Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:42 am

From the output you posted i see that you have over 500 packages that's not upgraded. Do an upgrade with:
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sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade


Then we can try to get it working again. firmware-b43-installer should work to get that card going.
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Re: really stupid newbie

Postby FireSoul on Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:49 am

jim maclinux wrote:i had tried linux cinnamon on friends PC and thought it great - s must have replacement for VIsta on one of our laptops.

i downloaded a copy, all looked great but i cant get my Wifi internet, and it wont let me download anything, or at least anything i can open.

any very basic suggestions please, i am not IT literate

regards
Jim


Hello Jim.

I have installed many laptops and all works with Wlan/Wifi.

My installed Mint 12 lisa and Mint 14 Cinnamon linuxes,them have drivers for Wlan/Wifi.

I always use live DVD to install and test it first starting from live DVD ,then can use wlan as started.

Look your wlan modem,there are SSID:(ZyXEL1560wzp my modem)look your type.
Wireless key: xxxxxxxx ,if there key you need it.

Go to panel down right side connect,click with mouse left buttom.
Connection settings/wireless connections.
Select your modem type you see on modem SSID:xxxxxx
Options/autoconnect put x,not more here.
Go to wireless security,here use for password your wireless key and look there are setted WPA&WPA2 (personal).
If there was that wireless key it's ready and save it.
If not wireless key use same WPA&WPA2 and make key,then it's protected.
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Re: really stupid newbie

Postby jim maclinux on Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:00 pm

when i try to run "apt install firmware-b43-installer" it tellsme to run "sudo dpkg ..£ when i do that i get following message, and my hard line connection gets dropped

jim@jim-MM061 ~ $ apt install firmware-b43-installer
[sudo] password for jim:
E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
jim@jim-MM061 ~ $ sudo dpkg --configure -a
Setting up bcmwl-kernel-source (6.20.155.1+bdcom-0ubuntu0.0.1) ...
Removing old bcmwl-6.20.155.1+bdcom DKMS files...

-------- Uninstall Beginning --------
Module: bcmwl
Version: 6.20.155.1+bdcom
Kernel: 3.2.0-23-generic (i686)
-------------------------------------

Status: Before uninstall, this module version was ACTIVE on this kernel.

wl.ko:
- Uninstallation
- Deleting from: /lib/modules/3.2.0-23-generic/updates/
- Original module
- No original module was found for this module on this kernel.
- Use the dkms install command to reinstall any previous module version.

depmod........

DKMS: uninstall completed.

------------------------------
Deleting module version: 6.20.155.1+bdcom
completely from the DKMS tree.
------------------------------
Done.
Loading new bcmwl-6.20.155.1+bdcom DKMS files...
First Installation: checking all kernels...
Building only for 3.2.0-23-generic
Building for architecture i686
Building initial module for 3.2.0-23-generic
Done.

wl:
Running module version sanity check.
- Original module
- No original module exists within this kernel
- Installation
- Installing to /lib/modules/3.2.0-23-generic/updates/

depmod....

DKMS: install completed.
Segmentation fault

when i rebooted an icon bottom right indicated there was a new version of update manager available- i started that and it attenpted to download then gave message "'E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
E: _cache->open() failed, please report.

????'"
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Re: really stupid newbie

Postby jim maclinux on Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:43 pm

still not geting anywhere - really need help
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Re: really stupid newbie

Postby jim maclinux on Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:33 am

OK chaps, i have given up trying to sort this out - Vista might be a crock of **** but at least I could get connected by wifi

cheerio

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