I have read all the above text. I cant express my gratitude. I'll make one point then respond under the below quoting. I searched another torrented ISO I liked last night and the reboot this morning resulted in the same orginal problem (BootMGR Missing). Therefore this is not the ISO issue, in retrospect. The method I am using to create the USB is
gparted- unmount, deleting all pendrive partitions, creating a new partition as NTFS, flagged as "boot", mount
unetbootin- select ISO
gparted- unmount, format NTFS, close, mount
This is the necessary order when conducting this USB creation from Linux (ubuntu).
Spearmint2 wrote:The computer you describe has a right to a windows install. For a nominal fee, usually $15-20 the person it belongs to can order a set of CD's from HP for it. Windows has various versions of XP such as "royal" OEM, which is that distributed and loaded onto major brand computers, there's a system builder OEM version, and the best and least problematic which also resets every 120 days for reinstall is the retail version. Those of course are divided between full and upgrade for the latter two. Microsoft does distribute install discs which come without a Product Key, which license can be purchased later after the trial period is finished. It's possible this is what you are attempting to use. Here's some of the problems you face. It's almost impossible to install a brand name computer OEM version of Windows on any computer other than the one it was intended to be on, because it has extra part to the install to check and make sure the computer matches the maker for which that software was created.
I thought this might eventually face palm me. I never read this dooming words for any issue of mine before since I started learning with Linux
And now of course it is too late to go through the recovery method I have just learned of because I deleted the whole Windows partition. I wanted to wipe the whole hdd completely anyway, and now I learn I could have just basically recovered without cost and had a fresh install. Shown in this method here>http://en.kioskea.net/forum/affich-4830 ... p-pavilion
However, if I had no choice other than a use of an original XP disc from a friend on his HP (desktop) computer could you manage to reluctantly agree may suffice? I would be happier getting an OS on without $ if it can get by well enough as a passable version.
Otherwise with any bugs, or unpatched updates, I think the $15-20 is paying for itself. You would think the $ is self-explanatory, but for this particular situatoin it means I kinda like really messed up on myself, and I really really like really... want to get this done without the cost of that small little $20... I wont describe that at this time.
Spearmint2 wrote:You say nothing is left of the former windows install, and since you installed Ubuntu on it, depending on what type of install was done, that's very likely. If you want to completely remove Ubuntu and put Windows on it and must use a USB thumbdrive to accomplish, one approach is to wipe the drive completely and then reinstall Windows from the computer manufacturer's software.
So in short what you are saying in blatant terms is that to install a Windows OS back onto this laptop I MUST remove Linux first? Thats what I was getting out of the other links I had read, but, if I read correctly, I saw them solve this issue without having to do that. I figured this would work the same as an installation of Linux allows freshly installing over anything on the hdd. So what I must do is 1st erase everything
and then use the Windows software I obtain to do a fresh install
If you don't have access to the manufacturer's software and just want to wipe the drive, then some software from Western Digital which can be freely downloaded has always worked fine for me on theirs and other maker hard drives to clean it off and set it up again with partitions and file system, ready for install of an operating system such as windows.
If you have any Linux distro on the USB, you can use that to delete all the partitions (GParted) and then setup one or two for Windows use as NTFS.http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
is the place to go and download software which will let you load an ISO file to a USB thumbdrive which can be accessed same as a CDROM could be, except by USB.
If anything of the former windows remains intact in it's partition, and you boot any windows install disc, (by disc or USB) then you can enter the restore or repair section and get access to a command screen, similar to terminal in Linux, and run FIXMBR and then FIXBOOT and it will restore the Windows boot system, but while killing and GRUB boot loader that's on it.
I really do not think anything else exists from the original Windows OS. According to Gparted I have :
/dev/sda1, ext4, ... ... ..., boot
these were all created with the original install OVER windows XP os.
If I was in your situation, I'd use a LIVE Linux distro on USB, create a first partition for Windows, and other partitions after that for the Linux distro, then I'd install the distro using the "something else" which allows picking the exact partitions for installation, thereby leaving the first partition for Windows. I'd also make sure the first partition was FAT32 probably to avoid any file permissions problems interfering later when pulling data from an NTFS partition if your friend has a habit of getting infected so badly, then install Windows onto it. Doing it this way will give you a system to get the Windows install started from the USB and if you load the Linus distro in the last 30-40 GB of the hard drive or even last 20 GB, there will be a system on there you can use in the future if Windows dies again.
After Windows is installed again, you can reinstall the GRUB and have it boot to Windows from there and also have Linux available for use too. If you use the manufacturer's system restore CD's, even if put onto a USB stick, it will completely wipe the drive before installing windows, so just be aware of that. If you want the windows to become the default to boot from GRUB, that's something which can be adjusted later, but for another thread.HP Recovery Partition Access Page.If pressing F10 or F11 during startup won't display the recovery software, since the HP store no longer supplies it, you could order from their resellers, such as this one.
This is probably what I'll have to do once I get the proper and correct software sorted out. Thanks again we people of the future and myself immensely give props.
Cocolate wrote:The viruses on this mother were so bad that I had to do a reinstall
Completely sanitizing the partition that contains a Microsoft OS (and all partitions that it will be allowed to interact with) and installing said OS from an original, unmolested installation media would seem to be the solution.
Its too late for that now, yet point taken.
I am using an ISO from a torrent
Ah... So don't so much wish to provide an environment free of viruses, per se... You, instead, wish to pre-install
them, lol? (At this point, my friend would be telling you that you probably just joined someone's massive botnet. A friend of that friend would ask if it was his
Get the "OEM" Windows disc from HP. It'll be cheap - I pulled an old Dell out of a dumpster, emailed Dell customer support asking for discs, and they sent me 64-bit Windows XP for free
(along with a couple other discs). Knowing that some 15-year old didn't preload the thing full of viruses, malware, code to allow him to use your computer and its Internet connection as a component in his various activities (such as DDoS attacks), or a backdoor that enables him to explore your system and all of its data whenever he wishes... priceless.
Personally, I'd recommend that one avoid ALL "hacked/cracked" software like the plague - or like one would avoid plague-carriers
) - but, at the very least, don't install molested OS
(!!!)... And when it comes time to install the boat-anchor load of anti-virus, anti-malware, et cetera apps, don't install molested copies of those, either.
Its sounds like your giving any software thats been modified or available for free download is infected and compromised as "touched"? I was very careful in selecting my ISO's although I can't be anymore safe than closing my eyes and reaching into a dark black hole in the ground and hoping to find treasure and not a hand-eating gremlin. BUT, buuut, I read the reviews and had made the intentions of using all my usual scans to check for the infections, though you know more than I do on this subject apparently, and maybe if the backdoor is built-in with code so ddep in the framework of the running OS, I'm S.O.L. attempting to use a Malwarebytes scan (includ of course the rest of the arresnal), they wont suffice...
Period? No matter which torrent? Ratio 0:100?
MtnDewManiac wrote:With all that being said: Your friend is using an OS that has been out for years, has received support for years, has had countless anti-virus/-malware apps for years... and is still unable to keep his system clean? Support for XP is Just About Done, lol. It's (well past) time for a new OS. Since he's currently using XP, I'm guessing the computer is old. I suggest Mint, one of the versions that uses the Xfce desktop environment (pretty lightweight, but mature and able); Mint 13 Xfce might be best because it will be supported until 2017, but you might find Mint 14 to be a good choice also (support ends next year, but installing a newer version is pretty simple - and one could always choose to install Mint 13 at that time if newer versions don't play well on the old computer). These days, more games are being released for linux OS - and there is always Wine/Play-On-linux - so it seems to me that the only remaining reason to stick with one of Microsoft's OS is... if one likes viruses.
Thanks, my firend will hate the Linux add with a passion it will stand to reason. I cannot hold a grudge, I only was expected to get this up and running and now Im trying to weasle out by passing off Linux as something he will learn to love, anyhow/ you are so so dead right, much appreciate your bantar and advice. Its definitely worth more than a free forum response.
Im on my way to research a practical free version of my Windows XP install, and finally as a final last grasp for fate, I will need to pay the price ...of $20... http://www.computersurgeons.com/Default.aspx