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Annoying passwords and keyring

Postby erik on Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:27 am

Hey,

I'm totally new to Linux, but find that it's quite intuitive. Even though I do have some issues to solve.

The most annoying issue is the password part. This is my desktop computer, and I don't have anything sensitive on it. Therefore I wanted to remove the login part. I've gotten rid of the login password. This was accomplished by going to the control center > login window preferences > security > enable automatic login.

But then the keyring started to prompt for the password before activating the wireless internet connection. I've tried to find a way around this the last couple of hours, but can't really find any. Can you help?

Hope you have an easy fix,
Erik

PS: I can stand the prompting for passwords before doing system changes, but it would also be great to get rid of these!
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Re: Annoying passwords and keyring

Postby 67GTA on Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:07 pm

Try changing the password for your wireless so it is the same as your login password. The prompting of your password before doing system changes is one of the fundamental reasons why Linux is more secure than Windows. It is supposed to be that way. That is something you need to get used to in Linux. In Windows, you are the administrator(root). You and anybody else that gains access to your system has read and write permissions. With Linux, only root(administrator) has that permission. That is why the user and root accounts are separate.
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Re: Annoying passwords and keyring

Postby erik on Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:37 am

The passwords are the same.

I thought the big difference between Linux and Windows was that in Linux you can decide how you want it yourself, while in Windows the user is forced to one setup. As I tried to point out, I've understood that this is one of Linux' security measures, but I want to get rid of it. Can anyone help?
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Re: Annoying passwords and keyring

Postby paul_sc1 on Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:08 pm

I am having same issue.

I don't think that it is normal to need to enter the keyring password every time you need the wireless to connect. I have used other linux desktops and did not have this situation.

If I find a solution, I will post here. This seems to have started for me when I added a new user account to the system....now my wireless never auto connects to my home wifi. I either have to re add it or I will get an nm-applet is trying to access keyring message prompting me for a password.

If I am reading other post correctly, making my login password the same as my wpa personal passcode is not an option.
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Re: Annoying passwords and keyring

Postby Fred on Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:00 pm

erik,

Not trying to be rude or arrogant, but when you try to neuter the security measures of Linux you hurt others too. Trying to make it as insecure as Windows, you are not only hurting yourself but the Windows and Linux communities as well. If you intentionally let your box be taken from you and used against others, that is not being socially responsible. It also gives Linux a black eye.

That is why you shouldn't expect an out pouring of information on how to do what you are asking from very many knowledgeable Linux users. You may not care, or may not realize, that your actions can harm others, but most of us do understand, and do care.

Don't stay tied to the old ways, learn a new, better way. :-)

Enjoy life,

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Re: Annoying passwords and keyring

Postby darco on Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:11 am

You need to delete the existing key...reboot, when prompted to enter key, just hit enter, do not add password.
/home/user/.gnome2/keyrings
I had to do this in LM and also Ubuntu for Evo and NM
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Re: Annoying passwords and keyring

Postby darco on Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:12 am

You need to delete the existing key...reboot, when prompted to enter key, just hit enter, do not add password.
/home/user/.gnome2/keyrings
I had to do this in LM and also Ubuntu for Evo and NM
good luck
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Re: Annoying passwords and keyring

Postby erik on Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:57 pm

Thanks darco! It was exactly what I wanted!

And thank you as well, Fred, for taking time to enlightening me. I actually didn't consider it, but therefore I must also ask: Why is my computer more vulnerable to external attacks (worms, trojans und so weiter) now? The only difference is that I don't log in and that I don't have to "log on" to my wireless internet connection. I still have to authenticate myself if I want to install applications.

Best wishes,
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Re: Annoying passwords and keyring

Postby Fred on Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:44 pm

erik,

There is nothing wrong with auto log-in. I must have misunderstood what you wanted. It is the net facing security that I thought you wanted to remove. So anyone could install and/or run any program they wished, from the net side. In other words running as root.

I apologize for misunderstanding what you were asking for. :-)

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Re: Annoying passwords and keyring

Postby melchizedek on Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:58 pm

Another solution is to install Wicd as your wireless manager. Add

deb http://apt.wicd.net hardy extras

......to your repo's, install, and job's done.
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