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No wallpaper, no icons on desktop

Postby spacegypsy on Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:59 pm

Hi;

Another buggy thing I found on Elyssa, is when starting or rebooting the pc, randomly (sometimes after 5 times, sometimes after 20 times) the desktop icons and the wallpaper won't appear. Also the righter mouse button won't give any menu, I just get a black screen.

The taskbar does appear.

Anything else works fine.

thx
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Re: No wallpaper, no icons on desktop

Postby 67GTA on Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:54 pm

I've seen this happen several times. It is usually nautilus hanging at boot. I have no idea what causes it. Usually a reboot will fix it. What are your system specs? Post the output of
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lspci
from a terminal. Are you running Compiz?
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Re: No wallpaper, no icons on desktop

Postby spacegypsy on Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:22 am

output of lspci:

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guy@guy-desktop ~ $ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P PCI to AGP Controller (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro]
01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro] (Secondary)
02:00.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3890 [Prism GT/Prism Duette]/ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow] (rev 01)
02:02.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134/SAA7135HL Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)
02:04.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 536EP Data Fax Modem
02:09.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6105 [Rhine-III] (rev 8b)
02:0a.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 46)
guy@guy-desktop ~ $


Compiz fusion is not running, all special effects are off in the appearance menu.

The machine is a Medion Titanium MD 8080 XL, Pentim 4 3.0GHz, 512MB RAM, ATI Radeon 9800 XL 128MB.
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Re: No wallpaper, no icons on desktop

Postby 67GTA on Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:37 am

Seems pretty standard. I had this bug when I started testing Hardy, but haven't seen it since I installed Elyssa.
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Re: No wallpaper, no icons on desktop

Postby spacegypsy on Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:42 am

It is an output of it when the problem did not appear.

Maybe I'll have to wait till it reappears and post then the output of lspci.
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Re: No wallpaper, no icons on desktop

Postby 67GTA on Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:17 pm

That isn't related. lspci only lists your major hardware components connected via pci. I just wanted to see if you might have had any devices that is known to cause problems with Linux. You are fine in that regard. It is just a Gnome bug.
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Re: No wallpaper, no icons on desktop

Postby spacegypsy on Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:49 pm

Thought so, because I ran previously Linux Mint 4 the KDE version without any problems on the same PC.
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Re: No wallpaper, no icons on desktop

Postby GrayWizardLinux on Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:58 pm

the bigeest frustrating thing i see in Gnome is a Gnome failure to load deamon/daemon that appears or icons that do not load. 2 different aspects - I get the daemon/deamon I reboot. and icon missing I usually live with it until the next boot up. People have been complaining about Gnome's glitchiness. I like Gnome so i live with it.
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Re: No wallpaper, no icons on desktop

Postby spacegypsy on Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:19 pm

GrayWizardLinux wrote:the bigeest frustrating thing i see in Gnome is a Gnome failure to load deamon/daemon that appears or icons that do not load. 2 different aspects - I get the daemon/deamon I reboot. and icon missing I usually live with it until the next boot up. People have been complaining about Gnome's glitchiness. I like Gnome so i live with it.


I like them both gnome for his look and feel and KDE for his applications.

I Installed the gnome version because that PC is mainly used by my father (a non computer geek at all) and I found gnome easier (less extended) than KDE for beginners.

Funny is that I never had that bug in Ubuntu gnome version (I'm using it since Dapper).
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Re: No wallpaper, no icons on desktop

Postby MagnusB on Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:42 pm

Sadly you got a happy mix of Intel, ATI and VIA chipsets. If you were just running Intel, I would have suggested to go for Elyssa, the drivers seems to be more stable in Hardy/Elyssa.

But a more general recommendation, run what works for you, if you don't need the bleeding edge. If you value stability, run a configuration that works
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Re: No wallpaper, no icons on desktop

Postby spacegypsy on Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:14 pm

MagnusB wrote:But a more general recommendation, run what works for you, if you don't need the bleeding edge. If you value stability, run a configuration that works


That's why I chose Mint.

In my eyes the best combination of ease of use and stability, some other distro's maybe more stable but haven't that easiness which Mint offers.
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