many thanks, dr. gold_finger,
"Quick note first:
The persistence file on the USB does not affect anything with regard to your installed hard drive system. It is a means to allow the USB's Mint system to save and re-use settings, documents, etc. -- effectively making it a portable, self-contained computer. What's done with persistence file does not transfer to the hard drive on installs from the USB. So don't worry about making another USB if you are only planning to use it for installing Mint."
that was my inference...thanks for confirming.
actually, the more I have thought about this, however....I have need to be extremely security conscious, one of the reasons I am finally leaving windows for linux.......the more I like the idea of having material data on a separate drive...less convenient though it is.
i can live with it if I must.
>>I have no experience installing inside Windows with Mint4Win, so I can't be sure that what I think I'm seeing in your pastebin from Boot Repair is what I think it is. From your 1st post that's what I assume you did first; then changed your mind and went for a real installation.<<
that's exactly right....realized that I was missing something by not having a native linux journal capable format.
>> From the pastebin image, it looks like grub is on sda5, rather than the mbr of sda.<<
Also, the partitioning on drive sda4 has me confused -- seems to be formatted with a label I haven't seen before, "W95 Extended". My guess is that this is an extended partition created by Windows, but I don't know. The Linux partition, sda5 is contained in extended sda4 -- which is fine.<<
this is a dell m6700....a zippy portable workstation which they have some of their own partitions on as the machine comes out of the box......that is probably why. I would not have labeled a partition that way, myself.
>>.....what you thought was a normal install was actually another install inside Windows.<<
I see how this might have been the case but it isn't.
>> Or it's installed as it should be, but Grub boot loader was set up in sda5 rather than the on the MBR of sda. <<
that feels right...don't know why......i selected the partition that I had designated for mint......and it installed there...I was surprised (and even a bit relieved in a way) to see no change in the booting, as I am still worried about windows.....and this machine only has one drive....I keep my "real life" on external USB drives, although if memory serves, none were hooked up at the time...only the stick that I used for the install of the ISO extraction (my DVD is defective and I am waiting for a new one from DELL).
>>Or, after you uninstalled Mint4Win from Windows, you should have deleted that partition and the Windows formatted extended partition to leave you with empty, unformatted space to install on.<<
that is what I did.
>> I don't know, because I have no knowledge of how the system is left after removing Mint4Win.<<
the boot selection disappeared...as it should have....once I uninstalled mint inside windows.
>> I don't think your computer is using UEFI to boot rather than BIOS, but you should confirm this for sure if you don't know yourself. <<
i did not even know about this choice, but found it when troubleshooting and it is set for "legacy boot" as I could not be sure that "secure boot" (what I think you are referring to?) would have cost me.
<the bios even gave a warning to that effect>
>>See 2/3rd's down this page to find out how under Windows: http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/bootmode.html
. If computer is not booted using UEFI, your problem should be easily solveable. If it is you should make a new post under the "Installation and Boot" section of the forum with a title along the lines of "UEFI Duel Boot Problem". Someone who knows more about that issue will answer.<<
as soon as I can get back to it, I am going to read what you suggest and I will report back in.
you've been great and i am grateful.
>>Post back with answer to above (is it back under Windows again?) and also let us know if you deleted any partitions after uninstalling from Windows or not?<<
see above, please.