Baffing install&run on boot of mintupdate ON Ub-STUDIO!!

[mkb]

I have no idea how my daughter (11) managed to do this but somehow she succeeded in setting up mintupdate so that it runs on booting on Ubuntu *Studio* .... AND it is consuming some 530mb of ram while running and 99% of the cpu. She (more precisely *I*) have to use system monitor proggie to kill the program to make the computer usable. Synaptic doesn't recognise it, alas, as being in existence.

Studio was wanted, after reading up on it, for learning how to do sound, video, photo editing so dutiful and obedient dad kowtowed to SWMBO mk2 and burned a dvd, removed Mint (which otherwise the whole house is now set up with - you guys do a great job and its become our "default" computer OS "booting" out a decade long usage of Suse - despite the latter's distasteful collaboration with the Master Satan over the last couple of years but then yast is soooo useful for the technically limited, but for ideological reasons I wanted to quit suse anyway at some point.)

But she did some extra installing of stuff and must have loaded on a mint repository and the mintupdate program ... somehow.

Now, a problem is that I'm very much a "user" and without a GUI to mouse about in, point and click, I'm sunk.

So what do I look for to remove mintupdate from the Ubuntu Studio installation - what is the executable program(s) called, where does it reside? And also where is it being called *from* (script I suppose) on startup so I can blank that out if deinstallation is too messy/time consuming to contemplate/have patience to do?

Alas the disk on her old PC isn't big enough to triple boot Mint, Studio and Windows XP <spit> - the latter XP being unliveable without for the girl if she doesn't get her daily fix of The Sims 2, which seems to have an utter fascination for pre-teen girls (she and her friends can literally spend a session all day for 5 days of the school hols playing it non stop until bedtime despite my best efforts to get them to see daylight for at least a few minutes... I haven't dared mention Spore - and so far neither she or any of her gang have twigged its existence!)

Help appreciated, I don't know where to start looking to get rid of this mintupdate program! And still completely bemused as to how she got it on there...

Many thanks

[67GTA]

If you open a terminal you could try

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sudo apt-get purge mintupdate

That is weird that Synaptic doesn't show it is installed. You can try looking for it in your filesystem in a terminal with

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locate mintupdate

[AK Dave]

I don't suppose it is helpful to point out that everything involved in Ubuntu Studio can be installed seperately by synaptic and bolted on top of Mint. Works fine. Call it "Mint Studio" if you'd like. Did this for my wife since she had need/desire for some Studio apps but I wanted to keep Mint for everyone to keep my sysad work lighter.

[mkb]

If you open a terminal you could try

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sudo apt-get purge mintupdate

Thanks "67" - that did the trick nicely. Quick and direct and friendly forum advice to a relative newbie is a big plus point scored for the Mint community the last 24hrs in my book - I'm recommending Mint to all and sundry as I appreciate the style so much, and now with the low resource version available even better. It's hard to pin down exactly what makes Mint "tick the boxes" for me and the wife, but it just does.

I'll have to remember that command option, beats exhaustively mooching through synaptic to get rid of something! Now running 39% of cpu and 400mb of ram with FFox using some 10 windows (flashgot installed makes the web usable again).

"That is weird that Synaptic doesn't show it is installed."

Yes, that had me puzzled. Should I report it (tho' no idea of WHAT exactly to report in this case 'part from it wuz broke Guvnor - and now I've vaped it anyway so too late when I think about it). Reminds me of the old joke about infinite monkeys and infinite typewriters and Shakespeare - no one will ever, probably, be able to repeat the sequence of things that was done to install Mint installer, repositories and then mintupdate on top of it -- from a vanilla Studio DVD install!

"You can try looking for it in your filesystem in a terminal with

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locate mintupdate

"

Thanks again for a useful command line heads-up. I'm looking for my old "notes and tips" ringbinder and intend to write these down, notebook last used that when sysadmining NT3 and Windows 3.11 before quit computing for social science academia at an advanced age, just missing the "internet revolution"... which dates my limits of technical expertise! As children grow up the demands for the "home sysadmin" are escalating and if I am to enforce the Windows only under extreme provocation rule I'd better start learning more detailed stuff pronto. Pity about the games issue...

As a complete aside, does anyone know if Sims 2 will work under one of these Wine type variants? I'm being steadfast in my refusal to allow XP or W98 (for 5yr olds collection of old 90's games - what more does a 5 yr old need than Lego Loco for e.g.?) to connect to the internet!!

[mkb]

everything involved in Ubuntu Studio can be installed seperately by synaptic and bolted on top of Mint. Works fine. Call it "Mint Studio" if you'd like. Did this for my wife since she had need/desire for some Studio apps but I wanted to keep Mint for everyone to keep my sysad work lighter.

As we don't "like" the Studio interface anything like as much as Mint I'd been thinking of doing this already -- having had the wits *this* time to put /home on a separate partition, and all data is networked to a raided file server, so just have to remember *this time* to save fstab somewhere accessible so don't have to type it all out again <sigh> like when I forgot to save it before formatting the disk on installing Studio (nitwit).

Mint Studio would be best of both worlds/disties for daughters needs and my admin convenience and now is the time to do a reinstall of Mint and then do the add on's on top of that as the Studio install is only days old and hasn't been customised by people yet so nothing to lose except some of my time doing it.

Did you do this over-the-top of Mint install of Studio components by exhaustively finding a list of Studio "ingredients" and then systematically finding, marking and applying them through Synaptic ... or has someone already done a list that can be used as a "retrofit" list, showing the packages? If so can one string them all together into an apt-get on a huge command line sequence and then go off and make the kids after school snacks?

Hmm "Mint Studio". On reflection *that* sort of thing - pre-prepared add on scripts or cut and paste command sequences - would be a very useful service or script to supply to Mint users for retrofitting the special bits of specialist distros based on ubuntu/debian, sort of like the way Medibuntu has a series of nice little commands one can cut and paste into a terminal window to deal with the media issue.

Project for a young newbie to cut teeth on as a learning project for him/her at school or something? They've got the luxury of FREE TIME at that age!

[67GTA]

Glad that worked. Synaptic is just the GUI front end to apt. Apt does all the work in the background. When you choose to completely remove something in synaptic, it just runs

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apt-get purge <program>

You can run

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apt-get --help

to get a list of all the command line arguments. You might be especially interested in autoremove and autoclean to gain hard drive room for older systems with not a lot of room. You can do this with any app also.

[AK Dave]

Did you do this over-the-top of Mint install of Studio components by exhaustively finding a list of Studio "ingredients" and then systematically finding, marking and applying them through Synaptic ... or has someone already done a list that can be used as a "retrofit" list, showing the packages?

PuLEASE! I didn't reinvent the wheel.

Read here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList

Pick and choose from the following portions of Ubuntu Studio, or see the above link and only install the individual apps that you actually want:

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sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop ** core package
sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio ** PC Audio Studio & Editing
sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-video ** Video Editing
sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-graphics ** 2D/3D graphics editing & rendering
sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-plugins ** various for all of the above

Mind you, I don't care for the "Ubuntu Studio" look and didn't see the need for 99% of the stuff in ubuntustudio-desktop when all I really wanted was a handful of apps from ubuntustudio-audio, so I did this piecemeal. Doing the full Studio install gives the advantage of being able to use all of the desktop features as well as Mint's unique features. Depends on personal preference; I wanted a light footprint.

If so can one string them all together into an apt-get on a huge command line sequence and then go off and make the kids after school snacks?

Lets not go there.

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sudo apt-get install acpi acpi-support acpid alacarte alsa-base alsa-utils anacron apmd powersaved avahi-autoipd avahi-daemon bc ca-certificates cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsys-client cupsys-driver-gutenprint dc desktop-file-utils doc-base eog file-roller foomatic-db foomatic-db-engine foomatic-filters gcalctool gconf-editor gdebi gdm gedit genisoimage ghostscript-x gnome-about gnome-app-install gnome-applets gnome-control-center gnome-icon-theme gnome-media gnome-menus gnome-netstatus-applet gnome-nettool gnome-panel gnome-pilot-conduits gnome-power-manager gnome-session gnome-spell gnome-system-monitor gnome-system-tools gnome-terminal gnome-themes gnome-utils gnome-volume-manager gstreamer0.10-alsa gstreamer0.10-plugins-base-apps gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio gtk2-engines gtk2-engines-murrine gucharmap hal hotkey-setup hwtest-gtk language-selector lftp libgl1-mesa-glx libglut3 freeglut3 libgnome2-perl libgnomevfs2-bin libgnomevfs2-extra libpt-1.10.10-plugins-v4l libpt-1.10.10-plugins-v4l2 libsasl2-modules libxp6 metacity nautilus nautilus-cd-burner nautilus-sendto notification-daemon openprinting-ppds pnm2ppa powermanagement-interface pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat readahead rss-glx screen scrollkeeper rarian-compat seahorse smbclient software-properties-gtk ssh-askpass-gnome synaptic system-config-printer-gnome tango-icon-theme tango-icon-theme-common ttf-bitstream-vera ttf-dejavu-core ttf-freefont ubuntustudio-default-settings ubuntustudio-look ubuntustudio-menu ubuntustudio-screensaver unzip update-notifier usplash usplash-theme-ubuntustudio x-ttcidfont-conf xkb-data xorg xscreensaver-data xscreensaver-gl xterm yelp zenity zip aconnectgui alsa-tools alsa-tools-gui audacity audacious audacious-plugins-extra ardour beast bitscope creox denemo timemachine gtick hydrogen jackbeat jackd jackeq jack-rack jack-tools jamin jdelay lilypond lilypond-data meterbridge muse patchage qamix vkeybd qjackctl puredata rosegarden timidity seq24 shaketracker sooperlooper swami csound tapiir freqtweak mixxx terminatorx zynaddsubfx fluidsynth bristol freebirth qsynth tk707 aeolus blop caps cmt hexter fil-plugins ladspa-sdk mcp-plugins omins swh-plugins tap-plugins vcf dssi-example-plugins dssi-host-jack fluidsynth-dssi xsynth-dssi dssi-utils openmovieeditor ffmpeg ffmpeg2theora kino stopmotion dvgrab inkscape blender gimp gimp-data-extras gimp-gap gimp-ufraw gimp-plugin-registry f-spot scribus fontforge gnome-raw-thumbnailer xsane wacom-tools hugin agave yafray synfigstudio 

sudo make me a sandwich

[mkb]

finding a list of Studio "ingredients" and then systematically finding, marking and applying them through Synaptic

""PuLEASE! I didn't reinvent the wheel."" <:shock:>

Oh, I was wondering what emotion was being, err, emoted in that one! Hadn't noticed the smiles options to the right of the writing window ... I tend not to "do" html mail, the local LUG roast everyone's b******ks if posting html code and top posting...

"Read here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList"

Most excellent, will do tomorrow sometime if rheumatism isn't too bad (lousy British weather yuck) as it affects the muscles in my eyes so can't read properly (polymyalgia rheumatica, soft tissue inflammation not "normal" bone grinding, but get to take lots and lots of opiates every day couple of times, nice stuff morphine)...

""Pick and choose from the following portions of Ubuntu Studio, or see the above link and only install the individual apps that you actually want:

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sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop ** core package
sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio ** PC Audio Studio & Editing
sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-video ** Video Editing
sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-graphics ** 2D/3D graphics editing & rendering
sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-plugins ** various for all of the above

Mind you, I don't care for the "Ubuntu Studio" look""

I agree - it is most, well, sort of crude and uncouth is the only words that come to mind and we don't like it aesthetically or practically either

""and didn't see the need for 99% of the stuff in ubuntustudio-desktop""

In reality that is probably the case with SWMBO Mk2 but she wants to try everything and what's a dutiful father to do?

"when all I really wanted was a handful of apps from ubuntustudio-audio, so I did this piecemeal. Doing the full Studio install gives the advantage of being able to use all of the desktop features as well as Mint's unique features.""

So it doesn't overwrite the desktop appearance with its own settings, or did you do something to prevent that happening? I installed edubuntu on top of xfce4 ubuntu few months ago and it took everything over so had to take it off, redo xfce4, and then grind my way through packages on synaptic... but then I'm just plain ignorant!

" Depends on personal preference; I wanted a light footprint."

Family now kitted out as of this week each with a 2.8ghz P4, 1.5g ram ... not too worried about the light footprint anymore! These PCs (got three of them second hand so one for everyone to call their "own") only cost 50 quid delivered (plus the cost of an extra 1gb memory stick each...).

What some corporations are throwing away as redundant to run Vista is literally criminal ... & genocidal (or should that be biocidal seeing as us humans are taking most of the other species with us in the next couple of hundred years...).

Quite a surprise catching up with PC'omputing as of '05-'06 performance era wise, and then this evening the even more modern date Aug. 2007 with my "new" Shuttle XPC just put together and loaded up with Mint upon. This is due to prior us having as the most up to date computer in the house an abit motherboard and nvidia 5500 card machine dating from '02 (more recent for the vga) and then that was cobbled together out of donated parts...!!!

I've just assembled a core2duo shuttle barebones using my bits pile and a donated "old" (!!!!!!!) cpu ... I mean old as in one year old is err "old"??? (They thought they needed a faster core2duo or 64 bit or something) and I'm finding the performance of 2x2ghz cpu's rather frightening ... and that was using second hand shuttle base and fitting out with bits that were new a full year ago. How a year old base unit, cpu, and components from last summer, can be seen as redundant baffles me in terms of higher logic than consumerism or rocketing market demands as I wonder where sanity and sustainability have gone...

For the last 10 years I've been using an Abit BP6 two Celeron (yes celeron, if one snipped or shorted out a pin they worked in smp mode) overclocked to a whopping 525mhz. Still usable with edubuntu gnome or XFCE4 type desktops until yesterday as I had managed to find enough ram to get it up to 756 or 1gb (darn can't remember now if 3 or 4 ram slots) when this one I am now using took over. When new, spring 1998, the BP6 was an overclockers dream that had a jaw dropping 384mb of ram and TWO x EIGHT! gigabyte raided ata 66 ide drives, a raw red meat eating beast 10 year back...

If so can one string them all together into an apt-get on a huge command line sequence and then go off and make the kids after school snacks?

""Lets not go there. ""

AAAArrrrrrrrggggggHHHHH! Err, yes, quite !!!

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sudo apt-get install acpi acpi-support acpid alacarte alsa-base alsa-utils anacron apmd powersaved avahi-autoipd avahi-daemon bc ca-certificates cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsys-client cupsys-driver-gutenprint dc desktop-file-utils doc-base eog file-roller foomatic-db foomatic-db-engine foomatic-filters gcalctool gconf-editor gdebi gdm gedit genisoimage ghostscript-x gnome-about gnome-app-install gnome-applets gnome-control-center gnome-icon-theme gnome-media gnome-menus gnome-netstatus-applet gnome-nettool gnome-panel gnome-pilot-conduits gnome-power-manager gnome-session gnome-spell gnome-system-monitor gnome-system-tools gnome-terminal gnome-themes gnome-utils gnome-volume-manager gstreamer0.10-alsa gstreamer0.10-plugins-base-apps gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio gtk2-engines gtk2-engines-murrine gucharmap hal hotkey-setup hwtest-gtk language-selector lftp libgl1-mesa-glx libglut3 freeglut3 libgnome2-perl libgnomevfs2-bin libgnomevfs2-extra libpt-1.10.10-plugins-v4l libpt-1.10.10-plugins-v4l2 libsasl2-modules libxp6 metacity nautilus nautilus-cd-burner nautilus-sendto notification-daemon openprinting-ppds pnm2ppa powermanagement-interface pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat readahead rss-glx screen scrollkeeper rarian-compat seahorse smbclient software-properties-gtk ssh-askpass-gnome synaptic system-config-printer-gnome tango-icon-theme tango-icon-theme-common ttf-bitstream-vera ttf-dejavu-core ttf-freefont ubuntustudio-default-settings ubuntustudio-look ubuntustudio-menu ubuntustudio-screensaver unzip update-notifier usplash usplash-theme-ubuntustudio x-ttcidfont-conf xkb-data xorg xscreensaver-data xscreensaver-gl xterm yelp zenity zip aconnectgui alsa-tools alsa-tools-gui audacity audacious audacious-plugins-extra ardour beast bitscope creox denemo timemachine gtick hydrogen jackbeat jackd jackeq jack-rack jack-tools jamin jdelay lilypond lilypond-data meterbridge muse patchage qamix vkeybd qjackctl puredata rosegarden timidity seq24 shaketracker sooperlooper swami csound tapiir freqtweak mixxx terminatorx zynaddsubfx fluidsynth bristol freebirth qsynth tk707 aeolus blop caps cmt hexter fil-plugins ladspa-sdk mcp-plugins omins swh-plugins tap-plugins vcf dssi-example-plugins dssi-host-jack fluidsynth-dssi xsynth-dssi dssi-utils openmovieeditor ffmpeg ffmpeg2theora kino stopmotion dvgrab inkscape blender gimp gimp-data-extras gimp-gap gimp-ufraw gimp-plugin-registry f-spot scribus fontforge gnome-raw-thumbnailer xsane wacom-tools hugin agave yafray synfigstudio 

sudo make me a sandwich