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Good install setup for gaming and videos

Postby Jinnai on Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:03 pm

First off i will be having Mint on a seperate HD than XP and I need XP because I beta test Windows games...can't really do that without windows. Also WINE doesn't have very good pixel-shader 2.0 implementation yet, which is a must for the games i beta test. The files I download for beta testings are sometimes over 2Gig, so i have to find a way that both XP and Mint can share as I plan to do most of my online work while on mint...if not all.

Also I have a lot of videos. I am going to be running an anime room for a convention here next year and I need to be able to rip DVDs to put them on a HD. Last year we had disc swapping and it caused problems with needing too many volunteers and a lot of hassle for volunteers finding the right discs (as they'd just toss them back into the box when done). So if there were any suggestions on programs to do this with Mint and good player (i do not care for VLC. I use MPC in windows because it allows for more and better tweaking than VLC for what I do...though it does have problems with soft subtitles still).

I might also be doing work with Director or Toon Boom in XP (unless Linux has a port or WINE can easily handle them).

Basically right now i have 1GB swap file (3Gig onboard memory), 10GB for Mint in / and ~71GB left on the drive. I have 2 other HDs as well, a 120 and a 350. The 350 holds XP. Any good suggestions for partition setup do to heavy media usage before i reinstall again?


Also...i'm learning Japanese and like to play games to help we learn it, but i use, in windows a hook to capture the text and translate it (AGTH) and Atlas v14 (that set me back a bit in $$, but it's been worth it compared to google)...would i still have to run these games in XP or could WINE handle them?
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Re: Good install setup for gaming and videos

Postby AK Dave on Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:54 pm

This is a little too stream-of-consciousness for me to follow.

Please break this down into discrete steps. What, specifically, do you want to do? It sounds like the place to start is with a dual-boot XP/Linux where both OS installs read/write a shared drive/partition where videos are stored.
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Re: Good install setup for gaming and videos

Postby Jinnai on Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:13 pm

Yea

the shared source needs to be able to handle files bigger than 2gigs (which means fat32 is out)

I would like to do as much as possible in Mint.

Right now these programs i might have problems with finding equivalents:
Photoshop CS3 (and it would need to have pretty much all the capabilities...not sure if GIMP/GIMPshop does)
Primere Pro
Toon Boom
Director (and be able to port/convert director files)

I would also need to be able to rip DVDs and encode them into whatever format (preferably mkv), mostly for the convention to reduce hassle and burden on staff/volunteers.

I also would like to play games. Some that i beta test will still have to be run in XP (though if WINE can run them that's a plus).

A few use Onscripter, which makes things easier there, though many of those use Japanese fonts...so i would need to be figure out how to install them so that the programs can use them (including Firefox which doesn't seem to be able to on LiveDVD of KDE).

Some games i'd also like to be able to hook machine translation + script grabber with as well. So say I am playing a game. A seperate program grabs the text in real-time and then a machine translation is run. These are all windows based as the games are all windows based currently. Not sure if/how WINE could handle this. Most of the games are in 2D, so if run by themselves with japanese fonts WINE should theoretically be able to handle them, it's with the hooking various other programs i'm not sure of.

And generally i just like watching stuff on my PC, but VLC imo is too restictive in its ability to tweak stuff.

I want to see how much Mint can handle as i prefer as little rebooting as possible.
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Re: Good install setup for gaming and videos

Postby AK Dave on Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:25 pm

the shared source needs to be able to handle files bigger than 2gigs


It could be NTFS. Linux has better NTFS support than Windows has for anything from unix-land.

Right now these programs i might have problems with finding equivalents:
Photoshop CS3 (and it would need to have pretty much all the capabilities...not sure if GIMP/GIMPshop does)
Primere Pro
Toon Boom
Director (and be able to port/convert director files)


Don't know what any of the others are since they're Windows apps, but I know Photoshop runs great in Wine. Maybe also the others.

I would also need to be able to rip DVDs and encode them into whatever format (preferably mkv)


Easypeasy. Wider variety of free software for linux to do this than there are viable commercial options under Windows. I've used K3B a lot for this.

I also would like to play games.


Thats why you can dual-boot to XP. Wine supports some, but hardly even "most". Cedega supports more, but your best bet for games is to be able to dualboot to XP.

A few use Onscripter


Whatever that is. Frankly, I don't care. Windows stuff, right? Thats all I need to know. Either it runs in Wine or it doesn't and you need to dualboot. You may find that you need to run IE6 in Wine to support some of this stuff.

Some games i'd also like to be able to hook machine translation + script grabber with as well. So say I am playing a game. A seperate program grabs the text in real-time and then a machine translation is run.


Yeah. Good luck with that.

And generally i just like watching stuff on my PC, but VLC imo is too restictive in its ability to tweak stuff.


VLC on Windows or VLC on Linux? VLC on Linux is excellent, but Totem (on Linux) is also awesome and both will play your videos just fine.

I want to see how much Mint can handle as i prefer as little rebooting as possible.


Install it.

I suggest that you're NOT going to get away from using Windows for some of that stuff, so I'd recommend you use VirtualBox to create a virtual XP box to run Windows software. Assuming your core hardware (CPU and ram) is up to the task.
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Re: Good install setup for gaming and videos

Postby Jinnai on Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:08 pm

Any suggestion for a good partitioning setup given i will probably be doing a lot of gaming and watching/handling video files?
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Re: Good install setup for gaming and videos

Postby AK Dave on Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:25 pm

wiki is your friend: http://linuxmint.com/wiki/index.php/How_to_partition
HowTo forum stickies are your friend: http://linuxmint.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=358

Assuming you had only one hard disk, this is how I'd partition it:
/dev/hda1 - 1-2 GB swap
/dev/hda2 -- 10-12 GB EXT3, e.g. LinuxMint
/dev/hda3 -- 10-12 GB EXT3, e.g. SuSE 10.2
/dev/hda4 -- extended partition, includes the rest of the harddisk
/dev/hda5 -- 20-30 GB NTFS, e.g. Windows XP
/dev/hda6 -- [remainder] NTFS, e.g. Video

If you had other drives to add to the system, I'd format them all NTFS and use them for storage. Primary drive has everything bootable and important. Everything else is just storage.

Personally, I format EVERYTHING as EXT3 or EXT2 except for removable external hard disks. Those need to be NTFS or FAT32. But I don't use XP on my own computers, and only care about interacting with XP if I have a portable device.
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Re: Good install setup for gaming and videos

Postby Jinnai on Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:47 pm

Okay so I have 3 internal drives and 1 external so:

SATA 350GB NTFS (holds windows)
IDE 120GB NTFS (storage)
DE 80 1GB Swap/10-2GB EXT3 (Linux...no reason windows needs to access this), 67-9GB NTFS??? or EXT3??? ( can later add another partiton if i want to do a second install)
External 250GB NTFS

So i have question mostly on the drive holding Linus as i have 4 hard drives.
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Re: Good install setup for gaming and videos

Postby AK Dave on Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:22 am

See above. I'd put all of the install OS on the first drive and use the rest of the drives for storage. I'd prefer to use EXT3 for everything except for partitions that actually NEED to be shared between XP and Linux.
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