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Re: Various problems on a fresh Linux Mint 17

Postby mandoman on Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:11 pm

Spearmint2 wrote:newbies can always use great tutorials, I've used them myself and still do at times. Kudos!

Yeah, thanks, I just hope I don't make them more confused. On the updates, what does the red exclamation mark under "type" signify? It makes me nervous, but I can't seem to dig anything up that explains it. Last question, I promise.
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Re: Various problems on a fresh Linux Mint 17

Postby Spearmint2 on Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:14 pm

clk on Edit, then Preferences and the Legend will be explained.
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Re: Various problems on a fresh Linux Mint 17

Postby mandoman on Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:55 pm

I don't see it. Here's a screenshot to show what I mean.

http://s1113.photobucket.com/user/mandomank/media/redexclmk.png.html

I have the pointer on it in the picture. I don't see anything in Preferences that tells me what that means. Sorry, I don't mean to be difficult.
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Re: Various problems on a fresh Linux Mint 17

Postby mandoman on Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:39 pm

I installed the latest image of Mint 13 Mate onto the laptop. Problems solved. Either my laptop actually has the ability to prefer one over the other, or Mint 17 has got a long way to go. JMHO.
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Re: Various problems on a fresh Linux Mint 17

Postby Spearmint2 on Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:47 pm

mandoman wrote:I don't see it. Here's a screenshot to show what I mean.

http://s1113.photobucket.com/user/mandomank/media/redexclmk.png.html

I have the pointer on it in the picture. I don't see anything in Preferences that tells me what that means. Sorry, I don't mean to be difficult.


I don't know if there's a legend for that part. The exclamations are used in Package Manager with exclamation marks, but I don't think those equate exactly to what's in mintupdate program.
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Re: Various problems on a fresh Linux Mint 17

Postby Wompoo on Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:50 am

I have just read through this thread as I'm considering updating to Mint 17 from my existing Mint 16

Can one of you provide a step by step summation of what went wrong for Mandoman please? And what lessons for the beginner can be learned? If that is possible.
I am slightly hesitant now to proceed with the update, pending an answer.
Thanks for the thread and the persistence of you both.
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Re: Various problems on a fresh Linux Mint 17

Postby mandoman on Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:03 pm

I shouldn't make such a summary. I probably gave up too soon. I just installed Mint 13 again, upgraded it in every way, while clinging tenaciously to Mate, and will probably try Mint 17 again in another year. I'm sure it will be running smooth by then. Really, the problems I had aren't untypical for Linux of any type. It seems like there are always new bugs, or just quirks that need ironing out of a new version. My desktops are still working fine with Mint 17, though I couldn't tell you what the difference is. Spearmint 2 was incredibly helpful, even if it didn't work out the way I hoped, but I ended up learning a bunch more really good things about using Linux with his help. Thanks again Spearmint 2. :)
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Re: Various problems on a fresh Linux Mint 17

Postby Wompoo on Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:12 pm

Ok, mandoman, I fully understand. Thanks for that reply.
However, some of your last post is confusing. You say in the second sentence: "..............and will probably try Mint 17 again in another year."
Then later in the post you say: "................ My desktops are still working fine with Mint 17".

I'm left wondering if this is a typographical error or wether or not you already have Linux Mint 17 or what?
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Re: Various problems on a fresh Linux Mint 17

Postby antenac on Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:45 pm

I still using Mint 15 because I have not option.
Mint 16 doesn't work in my computer.... and I think Mint 17 wont work too.
viewtopic.php?f=46&t=161069

To day I tried to boot one netbook with Mint 16 and didn't work... neither 32bit nor 64bits.
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Re: Various problems on a fresh Linux Mint 17

Postby Wompoo on Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:28 pm

I have just downloaded Mint 17 and most things are working ok. However, some of the keys are swapped or transposed. I selected English (UK) when setting up.
How can I correct this?

Another problem I'm having is with my email via Thunderbird. It is not accepting my password.
How do I correct this please?
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Postby Neuromancemeister on Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:50 pm

I did a fresh installation of 17 formating over 16, and it has been more bumpy ride on this version. The main issue is a USB wireless Belkin N600 that was working fine before I cannot make it work anymore. I tried every normal path I was able to find on the forums, reinstalling ndiswrapp, trying older versions, the driver is not working. Posted my issue on the wireless section, still stuck. Linux driver is not supported.
I have a x64 mate and cinnamon installation.
I have spent a lot of time working on this and I am seriously considering going back to 16.
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Postby panorain on Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:50 am

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Re: Various problems on a fresh Linux Mint 17

Postby panorain on Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:57 am

Ok I read through the whole above and it's really good since I am a complete Newbie of sorts.

sudo apt-get install --reinstall 'package-name' <--Very good

I got the key thing sorted out as far as 'Software Sources' -> Restore default setting <- and it really works properly on Qiana 17. but what about Maya 13? is there a way to set the repos back to default in Maya 13 like Qiana 17's clk button approach?

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apt-key list


Shows no errors in Qiana but how can one accomplish this in Maya? <--Maya still shows gpg errors listed below.

paul@desk/paul-HP ~ $ apt-key list
gpg: failed to create temporary file `/home/paul/.gnupg/.#lk0x814d8d0.desk/paul-HP.4171': No such file or directory
gpg: fatal: can't create lock for `/home/paul/.gnupg/trustdb.gpg'
secmem usage: 0/0 bytes in 0/0 blocks of pool 0/32768

paul@desk/paul-HP ~ $ uname -a
Linux desk/paul-HP 3.2.0-59-generic #90-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 7 22:47:22 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

The above is on a Maya machine.

I apologize for posting but I just wanted to say thanks also.
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Re: Various problems on a fresh Linux Mint 17

Postby Spearmint2 on Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:37 pm

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software-sources


See if that opens the list of repositories and keys in Maya. If one other than the ones for linuxmint are showing inactive, then remove it. Sounds like PPA for some program you may have added from outside rather than repository and that site may not be active anymore.

also try this;

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 gpg --list-sigs


which should give you similar to this.

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gpg: /home/mint17/.gnupg/trustdb.gpg: trustdb created
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Re: Various problems on a fresh Linux Mint 17

Postby panorain on Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:24 pm

Thank you for your reply and help.

@SpearMint2
To my knowledge as the administrator of this pc --> I never prior to 'attempted to import any key' <--basic updates/no compiling etc.

paul@desk/paul-HP ~ $ software-sources
software-sources: command not found
paul@desk/paul-HP ~ $ gpg --list-sigs
gpg: failed to create temporary file `/home/paul/.gnupg/.#lk0x9632ba0.desk/paul-HP.2915': No such file or directory
gpg: fatal: can't create lock for `/home/paul/.gnupg/trustdb.gpg'
secmem usage: 0/0 bytes in 0/0 blocks of pool 0/32768
paul@desk/paul-HP ~ $

paul@desk/paul-HP ~ $ sudo gpg --list-sigs
[sudo] password for paul:
gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/paul/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
gpg: failed to create temporary file `/home/paul/.gnupg/.#lk0x974aab8.desk/paul-HP.3034': No such file or directory
gpg: fatal: can't create lock for `/home/paul/.gnupg/trustdb.gpg'
secmem usage: 0/0 bytes in 0/0 blocks of pool 0/32768
paul@desk/paul-HP ~ $

drwx------ 2 paul paul 4.0K Nov 27 02:31 .gnupg <---Should root own it?
-rw------- 1 paul paul 9.3K Nov 27 02:31 gpg.conf <---What is improper about the following file ownership perms/if any?
gpg: fatal: can't create lock for `/home/paul/.gnupg/trustdb.gpg' <---!GPG must be open somehow because the program cannot create a lock?!

I recently have tried on the Ubuntu posts <--keep it quiet as I am trying to pretend I run 'Ubuntu 12.04 - we know it's Mint 13' The following link is the forum posting in the Ubuntu forums. <-- I apologize but what else can I do at this point?

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2254534

I'm getting GPG-key issues and I have no idea why. I appreciate your time and help as always.

@SpearMint2 wrote:

See if that opens the list of repositories and keys in Maya. If one other than the ones for linuxmint are showing inactive, then remove it. Sounds like PPA for some program you may have added from outside rather than repository and that site may not be active anymore.


Can't I just untick the box in Software Sources as I have done? Seriously this link has the current PPA for Pidgin---> http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/

Obviously I am doing something wrong and do not know enough - I tried this also in the terminal:

paul@desk/paul-HP ~ $ sudo gpg --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 --recv A1F196A8
[sudo] password for paul:
gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/paul/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
gpg: external program calls are disabled due to unsafe options file permissions
gpg: keyserver communications error: general error
gpg: keyserver receive failed: general error

It fails to work thank you for your help so far. <---I am wondering why it's not working I could easily install a new Mint 13 but then I will never know why it fails.

By the way if it means anything I did install the latest Pidgin package via Synaptic it's the 1:2.10.10 <--What difference does it make when (a supposidly supported operating system cannot even import a current/supported key/ It's a botch it's a joke who knows.

I apologize and thank you once again for bearing with me adding onto this post.
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Re: Various problems on a fresh Linux Mint 17

Postby Spearmint2 on Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:12 pm

drwx------ 2 paul paul 4.0K Nov 27 02:31 .gnupg <---Should root own it?
-rw------- 1 paul paul 9.3K Nov 27 02:31 gpg.conf <---What is improper about the following file ownership perms/if any?
gpg: fatal: can't create lock for `/home/paul/.gnupg/trustdb.gpg' <---!GPG must be open somehow because the program cannot create a lock?!


No, if it's in your home folder YOU should own it. You should be able to create and delete files, root and other administrator set to access files, at least that's what is on mine. Did you run chmod on anything recently in the home folder? Or backed up and then replaced files from the home folder? If so, then the ownership may have gotten messed up. Any other problems that seem ownership aka permission related?

Obviously I am doing something wrong and do not know enough - I tried this also in the terminal:


gpgand pgp stuff is always a pain, might need someone who's an expert on it to drop in and help if changing permissions on the folder and it's files won't solve it. Each user on the same computer could have differing gpg setup.

I'm confused by this part.

.gnupg/.#lk0x974aab8.desk/paul-HP.3034

why is it trying to create a *.desk folder and what is paul-HP.3034 ? Your home folder is just "paul", so is this involving a printer? Or is that related to this laptop? Or is your computer named paul and that's the username?

Here's a book link about gpg

I'd work on getting the permission set first, then move on from there if that doesn't solve it. I know who to go to for UEFI, GPT, stuff but not yet run across a guru for GPG here that I recall. I'm going to go read that ubuntu link you gave now.
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Re: Various problems on a fresh Linux Mint 17

Postby Spearmint2 on Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:27 pm

To my knowledge as the administrator of this pc --> I never prior to 'attempted to import any key' <--basic updates/no compiling etc.


LOL, I just had a thought, this might be simpler than first imagined. If you NEVER had any desire or need to use gpg, it's possible that;

1) you never set it up, but got hit by an email that contained an exploit designed to do gpg ransomware attack on windows computers.

2) you could remove the dot gnupg folder into some other place like a subfolder in Documents and see what happens. Maybe the problem ends and nothing else happens.

3) if all's well after a few days or weeks, put in the Trash (not delete yet) and let it sit there and rot a bit longer.

4) that randomized folder name looks very suspicious to me.
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