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Networking question

Postby mickey6 on Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:26 am

Maybe this one won't be too hard:

Do I need to use Samba to share directories on a network between two computers running Linux Mint 17 KDE edition?
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Re: Networking question

Postby WharfRat on Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:39 am

mickey6 wrote:Maybe this one won't be too hard:

Do I need to use Samba to share directories on a network between two computers running Linux Mint 17 KDE edition?


You can use nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server as an alternative.
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Re: Networking question

Postby mickey6 on Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:32 am

WharfRat wrote:
mickey6 wrote:Maybe this one won't be too hard:

Do I need to use Samba to share directories on a network between two computers running Linux Mint 17 KDE edition?


You can use nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server as an alternative.


Thank you! I would assume from the package names that that would be the client-server solution. Does that imply that for a peer-to-peer I need to figure out samba? What's the best solution for peer-to peer?
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Re: Networking question

Postby altair4 on Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:14 am

mickey6 wrote:Does that imply that for a peer-to-peer I need to figure out samba?

Samba is a client - server protocol.

When you create the samba share in dolphin that machine just became a samba server.

When the other machine accesses that share it becomes a samba client. Both machines can be both a server and a client to the other machine on the lan.
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Re: Networking question

Postby mickey6 on Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:23 pm

altair4 wrote:
mickey6 wrote:Does that imply that for a peer-to-peer I need to figure out samba?

Samba is a client - server protocol.

When you create the samba share in dolphin that machine just became a samba server.

When the other machine accesses that share it becomes a samba client. Both machines can be both a server and a client to the other machine on the lan.


Thank you again. Does this imply that this is the preferred, or 'best practice' solution to sharing files across a network? Is there another solution I'm overlooking?
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Re: Networking question

Postby all41 on Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:37 pm

Does this imply that this is the preferred, or 'best practice' solution to sharing files across a network
Excellent question :!:
And will samba and nfs coexist in harmony, or is it just choose one or the other? --if no win anywhere.
I am now sharing via samba but is nfs faster?
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Re: Networking question

Postby DrHu on Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:38 pm

NFTS file sharing (CIFS) has become the default selection within Linux OS distributions..
--the standard UNIX method for file sharing was/is NFS
    There is one thing to watch for when connecting to NTFS file shares, permissions from an NTFS file folder or file are not respected by Linux OS; so file copying can be an issue..
    --there is an ACL function withion Linux available, but it is not an exact match for NTFS file attributes/permissions

And there is always cloud storage to which either computer could connect to; whether Linux, Windows or Apple OSX

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4880
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Re: Networking question

Postby altair4 on Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:44 pm

mickey6 wrote:
altair4 wrote:
mickey6 wrote:Does that imply that for a peer-to-peer I need to figure out samba?

Samba is a client - server protocol.

When you create the samba share in dolphin that machine just became a samba server.

When the other machine accesses that share it becomes a samba client. Both machines can be both a server and a client to the other machine on the lan.


Thank you again. Does this imply that this is the preferred, or 'best practice' solution to sharing files across a network? Is there another solution I'm overlooking?

You will never get a "preferred, or 'best practice'" kind of answer anywhere in Linux.

All I can tell you is that Linux, Windows ( SMB ), and now Apple ( the default file sharing protocol - which was afp - is now SMB ) all use some form of Samba/SMB so it's become universal.
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Re: Networking question

Postby all41 on Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:52 pm

Postby DrHu on Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:38 pm

This is a wee bit off the subject matter.

DrHu--others,
I am awed and respectful of the expertise offered in these forums--no doubt.
These sometimes get waaaay beyond the ozone layer.
In so many posts there are links to online articles to convey pertinent information.
I suggest that many of these referrals are far beyond a typical user's level of understanding, and especially so regarding replies to Newbie Questions.
So it would be very informative if you could also include a summary, interpretation, and/or your conclusions of these highly technical articles, and
in a plain language for "the other 99%" of us.

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Re: Networking question

Postby mickey6 on Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:53 pm

all41 wrote:
Postby DrHu on Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:38 pm

This is a wee bit off the subject matter.

DrHu--others,
I am awed and respectful of the expertise offered in these forums--no doubt.
These sometimes get waaaay beyond the ozone layer.
In so many posts there are links to online articles to convey pertinent information.
I suggest that many of these referrals are far beyond a typical user's level of understanding, and especially so regarding replies to Newbie Questions.
So it would be very informative if you could also include a summary, interpretation, and/or your conclusions of these highly technical articles, and
in a plain language for "the other 99%" of us.

The best your way.


Very nicely said. Sometimes all we need is a push in the right direction, or a hint or clue what commands we should at least investigate. All I really needed was "dolphin smb://hostname.local" and a little time: viewtopic.php?f=157&t=176373
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Re: Networking question

Postby DrHu on Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:21 pm

Ok, but the question was initially more general than
    ? how can I use Samba to connect to xxx machine (windows OS), which is the general case when people have that style of question..
--in your case it was two kde Linux OS machines..

Now maybe I approach it differently, but when I find someone speaking jargon to me, I always think to look up the terms
--for even jargon (only being a shorthand) is possibly or probably being misused by the speaker/writer and is usually very subjective in whichever form it takes on..

That's probably why I like providing links
--my only suggestion for that is to scan the data, ignoring anything you think doesn't apply, but also picking up some statements/clues to the issue or question: and if nothing matches so be it..
    It will only be a few moments scan time (for info)..
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