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Re: Freezes After Suspend??

Postby garda on Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:25 am

The laptop I borrowed from a friend of mine was an Acer Aspire 4530 with the following specs:

- AMD Turion64 X2 RM-74 Processor
- NVIDIA nForce MCP77MH Chipset
- 2GB DDR2-667
- NVIDIA GeForce 9100M graphics controller
- etc.

The sad thing is that I did not get any problem with suspend or hibernate -- nothing significant. Every distribution I threw at it seemed to play relatively nicely with it, including Linux Mint 6 Main (x86 and x86-64), Ubuntu 8.10 (x86 and x86-64) and OpenSuSE 11.1 (x86, did not have time to download the x86-64 variant). The only minor problem with power management that I found while playing with this laptop was the hard drive would constantly grind aggressively upon resuming from hibernation under Ubuntu 8.10 x86-64, although it only occurred occasionally and it did not arise under any other operating systems that I tested.

Therefore I can only give you hypothetical possible fixes here, which may or may not get rid of the issues you are experiencing:

a. Upgrade your laptop BIOS to the latest version. The laptop I tried already had the latest BIOS available on Acer's web site.
b. Give your operating system a swap size of at least 1x the size of your physical RAM. This was how I set up the swap partition for every operating system I installed on the laptop.
c. Reconfigure uswsusp like this:
- Call uswsusp's configuration menu:
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sudo su

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dpkg-reconfigure uswsusp

- "The device node through which uswsusp can talk to the kernel:
Just clear (empty) the input box and hit Enter to use the default node (/dev/snapshot).
- "Perform Checksum on image?"
Choose No.
- "Compress image?"
Choose Yes.
- "Perform early write out?"
Choose Yes.
- "Preferred maximum image size:"
Enter a value no higher than half of your swap here.
- "Log level:"
Enter 2.
- "Maximal log level:"
Enter 2 again.
- "Encrypt snapshot?"
Choose No.
- "Show splash screen?"
Choose No.

That is about all that comes to mind as of now. I am sorry for letting you guys down.
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Re: Freezes After Suspend??

Postby Reaper29 on Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:26 am

thanks for all your help garda. still not being able to suspend. im going to try to run linux mint 6 x64 all over again from scratch and see if everything is fixed. by chance do you recommend i try another distro?
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Re: Freezes After Suspend??

Postby garda on Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:50 pm

It is hard to point out distributions that are fully compatible with one particular system since most distributions do not maintain up-to-date compatibility lists.

So before you start to swing over from one distro to another, you might want to try switching (as in upgrading or even downgrading) kernels. Switching kernels is much quicker and can often, although not always, be much more effective.
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Re: Freezes After Suspend??

Postby Reaper29 on Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:06 pm

garda wrote:It is hard to point out distributions that are fully compatible with one particular system since most distributions do not maintain up-to-date compatibility lists.

So before you start to swing over from one distro to another, you might want to try switching (as in upgrading or even downgrading) kernels. Switching kernels is much quicker and can often, although not always, be much more effective.


well i just switched, meaning reformatting and installing a new version of Kubuntu, still have the same problem. So im back to Mint again, i like it alot better anyway.

what do you mean when you say switch kernels?
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Re: Freezes After Suspend??

Postby garda on Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:35 am

By switch kernels, I mean try out later or earlier revisions of the Kernels. Since you currently use version 2.6.27-12-generic, you might want to try installing either 2.6.27-13-generic or higher (if available). If you are not seeing improvement with the the later revisions, try stepping down to 2.6.27-11-generic and earlier until you find one that works best with your system. You may use Synaptic to install other revisions of the kernel.
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Re: Freezes After Suspend??

Postby Reaper29 on Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:45 am

garda wrote:By switch kernels, I mean try out later or earlier revisions of the Kernels. Since you currently use version 2.6.27-12-generic, you might want to try installing either 2.6.27-13-generic or higher (if available). If you are not seeing improvement with the the later revisions, try stepping down to 2.6.27-11-generic and earlier until you find one that works best with your system. You may use Synaptic to install other revisions of the kernel.


ok i will try that, im using 2.6.27-13-generic now, maybe this will fix it.

any idea what i can do to get my fan to turn on?my temps are 69c and 66c, sometimes gets as hot as 99c and my fan does not come on at all. i tried so manything and still nothing. it worked fine when i switched from vista.
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Re: Freezes After Suspend??

Postby garda on Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:25 pm

I would usually play with i8kutils if I experience oddities with temperature and/or CPU and chipset fans. But since the aforementioned software is not available for 64-bit, I do not know what to recommend.
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Re: Freezes After Suspend??

Postby Reaper29 on Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:21 am

well i finially got it to suspend perfectly fine. i completely removed Mint 6 and reformatted, then installed a fresh version of Mint 6 KDE.. Everything works fine, does not over heat anymore, it goes into suspend fine and resumes from suspend fine.
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Re: Freezes After Suspend??

Postby Beau on Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:07 pm

I was using 2.6.27-11.27 generic and worked my way down to 2.6.27-7.16 and I think lower, rebooted each time, and suspend still does not work correctly. The hard drive turns off, the monitor sleeps, but the system is still running. I have to power off and reboot to bring out of standby. No key strokes apparently work. Very aggravating as I don't want to leave my computer running non-stop.

Presently using from the Mint repository Linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-3-rt.

I can't do a reinstall as it took me a very long time to get things working. I have an AMD dual-core, if that means anything.

If anyone has a solution I would really appreciated it. Thanks.
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Re: Freezes After Suspend??

Postby Reaper29 on Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:29 pm

Beau,

i would say do a backup and install and start fresh with Mint 6 KDE. im running an AMD dual core also, 4gig ram, nvidia video card, bluetooth etc...i have no problems at all with it overheating when it was just running Mint 6, and it suspends and resumes perfectly fine.

plus imo, i like KDE ALOT better then gNome.
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Re: Freezes After Suspend??

Postby Beau on Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:46 pm

Reaper29 wrote:Beau,

i would say do a backup and install and start fresh with Mint 6 KDE. im running an AMD dual core also, 4gig ram, nvidia video card, bluetooth etc...i have no problems at all with it overheating when it was just running Mint 6, and it suspends and resumes perfectly fine.

plus imo, i like KDE ALOT better then gNome.


Thanks Reaper, I might do just that. I'll check KDE out as a bootable live DVD first. Glad you have your problem worked out. :D
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Re: Freezes After Suspend??

Postby Reaper29 on Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:54 pm

Beau wrote:
Reaper29 wrote:Beau,

i would say do a backup and install and start fresh with Mint 6 KDE. im running an AMD dual core also, 4gig ram, nvidia video card, bluetooth etc...i have no problems at all with it overheating when it was just running Mint 6, and it suspends and resumes perfectly fine.

plus imo, i like KDE ALOT better then gNome.


Thanks Reaper, I might do just that. I'll check KDE out as a bootable live DVD first. Glad you have your problem worked out. :D


not a problem at all, and hope you like the KDE desktop as much as i do. everything is the same as the regular mint 6, but different background features. but as you said, check it out on a live cd first. im pretty sure you will be very satisfied with it.
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Re: Freezes After Suspend??

Postby Frannie on Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:51 pm

I've got a HP 360gb HDD Pavillion AMD Vista Laptop bought last October, but haven't so far run into this prob.

I'm still not completely ofey with Vista as I seldom use this laptop, but somewhere in the Control Panel under 'System', all Windows platforms allow you to alter these power-saving functions.
With Linux and every other non-Microsoft OS, there are the same options too.
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Re: Freezes After Suspend??

Postby Beau on Mon May 25, 2009 9:36 am

Suspend works although I can still hear fan(s) running). Will not wake. Must hard reboot.
Gloria RC1 on its own hard drive., HP a1700n desktop, AMD dual core, nVidia 7900 GT/GTO graphics card.

I don't know if this has anything to do with my problem but from searching and reading I found this:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... +bug/20218

So I run:
cat /proc/acpi/wakeup
and the results are:

Device S-state Status Sysfs node
HUB0 S5 disabled pci:0000:00:10.0
XVRA S5 disabled pci:0000:00:04.0
XVRB S5 disabled
XVRC S5 disabled pci:0000:00:02.0
USB0 S3 disabled pci:0000:00:0b.0
USB2 S3 disabled pci:0000:00:0b.1
AZAD S5 disabled pci:0000:00:10.1
MMAC S5 disabled pci:0000:00:14.0
MMCI S5 disabled
PS2K S4 disabled pnp:00:08

Could any thing here be the problem and, if so, what do I need to do in noob terms to correct? I tend to break things easily.
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Re: Freezes After Suspend??

Postby Beau on Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:10 pm

Bumping this thread. Have tried all the suggestions. Dual boot Gloria Gnone on separate hard drive, VISTA on another. Suspend freezes and must hard boot. HP Pavilion a1700n with nVidia GeForse 7900 GT.

This suspend problem is keeping me from using Mint, except to play around with it occasionally.

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