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partition manager options

Postby MightymacCHS on Mon May 04, 2009 12:39 am

I am attempting to install linux mint on a machine that is already running vista ultimate 64-bit. I have 8GB Ram and would like to utilize all of it in linux mint. The problem arises when the partition manager starts. None of the options are what I want and I do not know enough about linux to do it manually. The options:
Guided: resize partition and use freed space
Guided: use entire disk
Guided: Use largest continuous freed space
Manual

What I am looking to do is split my hard drive right down the middle. When I installed vista I split the hard drive in half and formatted one for vista leaving the other half as free space. I want to tell linux mint to use the free space and format that space for use with just linux mint. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: partition manager options

Postby fwc on Mon May 04, 2009 1:10 am

If I remember correctly there is way to select a partition and still have it "guided" but if you don't see any obvious choice like this than just do manual. It isn't much different and you should find the second partition in the partition list after selecting manual.
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Re: partition manager options

Postby MightymacCHS on Mon May 04, 2009 2:18 am

Can you tell me how to do it manually for a 200 GB partition or point me to a "how to"?
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Re: partition manager options

Postby DataMan on Mon May 04, 2009 5:20 am

Try:

1. http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=9922 (It's a listed sticky posting in the installation forum here).
2. Either by using the LiveCD partition manager or by getting a copy of GParted Live (recommended) shrink your Vista partition down and create your necessary partitions for Mint. Then do the "manual" method when doing the install. Note there are a number of steps that should be taken as part of this prep process.
3. Search these boards for phrases like partition set up, manual partitioning etc.

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Re: partition manager options

Postby altair4 on Mon May 04, 2009 7:44 am

This is based solely on my own experiences with other peoples setups and what I've read about Vista Ultimate in particular.

(1) Do not use gparted or any other linux based partition manager to resize the Vista partition. Use the built in Vista utility instead.

(2) Do not allow Linux to install grub into the master boot record. In the Mint install process:
PARTITION > Manual > Step 7 > Advanced > Bootloader you want to put grub into the partition you installed Mint into. For example if WinVista is in sda1 and Mint in in sda2, put Mint's grub into sda2 not in the MBR. You'll then have to install EasyBCD ( http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1 ) into Vista and use that to setup Vista's native bootloader to boot Mint.

The reason for step 2 has to do with Vista Ultimate in particular. The last service pack when applied to Vista Ultimate makes changes to the MBR itself. If it can't find the Vista MBR the service pack update will fail. Future Service Packs may do the same thing.
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Re: partition manager options

Postby fwc on Tue May 05, 2009 12:24 am

altair4 wrote:This is based solely on my own experiences with other peoples setups and what I've read about Vista Ultimate in particular.

(1) Do not use gparted or any other linux based partition manager to resize the Vista partition. Use the built in Vista utility instead.

(2) Do not allow Linux to install grub into the master boot record. In the Mint install process:
PARTITION > Manual > Step 7 > Advanced > Bootloader you want to put grub into the partition you installed Mint into. For example if WinVista is in sda1 and Mint in in sda2, put Mint's grub into sda2 not in the MBR. You'll then have to install EasyBCD ( http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1 ) into Vista and use that to setup Vista's native bootloader to boot Mint.

The reason for step 2 has to do with Vista Ultimate in particular. The last service pack when applied to Vista Ultimate makes changes to the MBR itself. If it can't find the Vista MBR the service pack update will fail. Future Service Packs may do the same thing.

Do you know if its going to be the same with win7? I want to make sure I know how to get GRUB back up and running after I install the RC of win7.
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Re: partition manager options

Postby altair4 on Tue May 05, 2009 7:20 am

I don't know anything about Win7 and the caution above is only for Vista Ultimate but Microsoft seems to now go out of its way to make dual booting as problematic as possible. I think that EasyBCD is the answer ( at least for the time being ). But I don't know if there is a version of EasyBCD for Win7.

Assuming Win7 doesn't have a service pack issue with the MBR like Vista ultimate does you can always rebuild grub following the procedure like this one:
DataMan wrote:I think the original poster was talking about an install vs a LiveCD.

It's really quite simple to restore your Mint menu.lst.

1. You need to know what the partition is that Mint resides on (sda2,3, 4 or whatever).
2. Boot to any Linux (even Ubuntu).
3. Initiate the terminal mode.
4. $sudo grub.
5. Assuming your Mint is on sda4 and your mbr is on hd0 : grub > root (hd0,3)
6. grub > setup (hd0)
7. Exit and re-boot.

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