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Laptop inboard mouse problem

Postby waltermoore on Mon May 25, 2009 12:39 pm

I have no right click.. Im using my Dell Latitude D600.
lspci:
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00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to I/O Controller (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to AGP Controller (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 81)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 01)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 02)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5705M Gigabit Ethernet (rev 01)
02:01.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711EC1 SmartCardBus Controller (rev 20)
02:01.1 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711EC1 SmartCardBus Controller (rev 20)
02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)


lsusb:
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Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub


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Re: Laptop inboard mouse problem

Postby jaspmatt on Mon May 25, 2009 12:54 pm

Does an external USB mouse exhibit the same problem?
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Re: Laptop inboard mouse problem

Postby waltermoore on Mon May 25, 2009 1:51 pm

as sad as it sounds. I dont have any USB mice or keyboard to think of it... I'll buy a cheapie.
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Re: Laptop inboard mouse problem

Postby AK Dave on Tue May 26, 2009 3:14 am

No right click at all, in anything, or no right click on the desktop? If you go to Preferences/Mouse there should be a little lightbulb at the bottom to test your mouse buttons. Test it there. Still no r-clicky?

Pointing device should be configured through xorg.conf
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Re: Laptop inboard mouse problem

Postby waltermoore on Tue May 26, 2009 10:07 am

I changed the Right-Handed to left handed.... "right click" works for the left handed.. but not the right... but left handed normal pointer does nothing. neither one of them work (computer comes with two two-button mice and a touchpad). i could set it to left, so i could use the left handed right click, and use the touchpad as the pointer.. I'm going to dissect her cuz she needs a new keyboard. anyways. thanks for the ideas ppl.
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Re: Laptop inboard mouse problem

Postby AK Dave on Thu May 28, 2009 3:24 am

I'm irritated at you for starting a second thread on this same subject instead of sticking with the first thread. That will probably carry forth as a high level of sarcasm in this post. My advice to you: don't do that again.

Your touchpad is going to be on usb or ps2, likely ps2, not pci, so lspci is totally useless.

Incidentally, does it occur to you that maybe you're not the first person on the planet to use a Dell D600 and have a touchpad problem? That maybe you're not the first Dell D600 owner to try an Ubuntu derivative and have a touchpad problem? That maybe you're not alone in the universe, that someone else has had problems with a Dell D600 touchpad, and that there might be information specific to your model on the internet? Well, you're in luck! You're not alone!

Lets see what Google says about: "dell d600 touchpad problem"

Here are some choice links:
http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/15/ ... cs-driver/
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-282174.html
http://www99.epinions.com/review/pr-Del ... 5727976068

First, find out what sort of touchpad you have:
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$cat /proc/bus/input/devices

Likely result: "AlpsPS/2 ALPS Glidepoint"

Now see what xorg.conf says:
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$cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Likely result: "Synaptics Touchpad"

ALPS != Synaptics
Ergo, thats a problem!

Relevant xorg.conf sections for an ALPS Glidepoint:
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Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "Alps Touchpad"
        Driver          "synaptics"
        Option          "SendCoreEvents"        "true"
        Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/event2"
        Option          "Protocol"              "event"
        Option          "HorizScrollDelta"      "0"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "Alps Touchpad"
        Driver          "synaptics"
        Option          "SendCoreEvents"        "true"
        Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/event2"
        Option          "Protocol"              "event"
        Option "LeftEdge" "120"
        Option "RightEdge" "830"
        Option "TopEdge" "120"
        Option "BottomEdge" "650"
        Option "FingerLow" "14"
        Option "FingerHigh" "15"
        Option "MaxTapTime" "180"
        Option "MaxTapMove" "110"
        Option "ClickTime" "0"
        Option "EmulateMidButtonTime" "75"
        Option "VertScrollDelta" "10"
        Option "HorizScrollDelta" "0"
        Option "MinSpeed" "0.45"
        Option "MaxSpeed" "0.75"
        Option "AccelFactor" "0.020"
        Option "EdgeMotionMinSpeed" "200"
        Option "EdgeMotionMaxSpeed" "200"
        Option "UpDownScrolling" "1"
        Option "CircularScrolling" "0"
        Option "CircScrollDelta" "0.1"
        Option "CircScrollTrigger" "2"
        Option "SHMConfig" "true"
EndSection


Note that I didn't come up with this on my own because I'm some kind of idiot savant. I came up with this because I used Google and found this website!
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Re: Laptop inboard mouse problem

Postby waltermoore on Thu May 28, 2009 2:04 pm

well thanks for making me feel useless, in fact I did use google and all the first 2.5 pages of it nothing worked!. the cat /proc/buss/input/devices outputs:
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I: Bus=0019 Vendor=0000 Product=0005 Version=0000
N: Name="Lid Switch"
P: Phys=PNP0C0D/button/input0
S: Sysfs=/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/PNP0C0D:00/input/input0
U: Uniq=
H: Handlers=event0
B: EV=21
B: SW=1

I: Bus=0019 Vendor=0000 Product=0001 Version=0000
N: Name="Power Button (CM)"
P: Phys=PNP0C0C/button/input0
S: Sysfs=/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/PNP0C0C:00/input/input1
U: Uniq=
H: Handlers=kbd event1
B: EV=3
B: KEY=100000 0 0 0

I: Bus=0019 Vendor=0000 Product=0003 Version=0000
N: Name="Sleep Button (CM)"
P: Phys=PNP0C0E/button/input0
S: Sysfs=/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/PNP0C0E:00/input/input2
U: Uniq=
H: Handlers=kbd event2
B: EV=3
B: KEY=4000 0 0 0 0

I: Bus=0017 Vendor=0001 Product=0001 Version=0100
N: Name="Macintosh mouse button emulation"
P: Phys=
S: Sysfs=/devices/virtual/input/input3
U: Uniq=
H: Handlers=mouse0 event3
B: EV=7
B: KEY=70000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
B: REL=3

I: Bus=0011 Vendor=0001 Product=0001 Version=ab41
N: Name="AT Translated Set 2 keyboard"
P: Phys=isa0060/serio0/input0
S: Sysfs=/devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input4
U: Uniq=
H: Handlers=kbd event4 rfkill
B: EV=120013
B: KEY=500f 2102002 380307c f810d001 feffffdf ffefffff ffffffff ffffffff
B: MSC=10
B: LED=7

I: Bus=0010 Vendor=001f Product=0001 Version=0100
N: Name="PC Speaker"
P: Phys=isa0061/input0
S: Sysfs=/devices/platform/pcspkr/input/input5
U: Uniq=
H: Handlers=kbd event5
B: EV=40001
B: SND=6

I: Bus=0019 Vendor=0000 Product=0006 Version=0000
N: Name="Video Bus"
P: Phys=/video/input0
S: Sysfs=/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/PNP0A03:00/device:1e/device:1f/input/input6
U: Uniq=
H: Handlers=kbd event6
B: EV=3
B: KEY=3f000b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

I: Bus=0011 Vendor=0002 Product=0001 Version=0000
N: Name="PS/2 Generic Mouse"
P: Phys=isa0060/serio1/input0
S: Sysfs=/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input7
U: Uniq=
H: Handlers=mouse1 event7
B: EV=7
B: KEY=70000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
B: REL=3

I: Bus=0019 Vendor=1028 Product=0000 Version=0000
N: Name="b43-phy0"
P: Phys=
S: Sysfs=/devices/virtual/input/input8
U: Uniq=
H: Handlers=kbd event8 rfkill
B: EV=3
B: KEY=4000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0


and the cat /etc/X11/xorg outputs
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# xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# Note that some configuration settings that could be done previously
# in this file, now are automatically configured by the server and settings
# here are ignored.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier   "Configured Monitor"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier   "Default Screen"
   Monitor      "Configured Monitor"
   Device      "Configured Video Device"
EndSection

Section "Device"
   Identifier   "Configured Video Device"
   Option      "UseFBDev"      "true"
EndSection

Section "Device"
   Identifier "Configured Mouse"
   Driver "mouse"
   Option "CorePointer"
   Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
   Option "Protocol" "PS/2 Emulation"
   Option "Emulate2Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "Device"
   Identifier "Generic Mouse"
   Driver "mouse"
   Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
   Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
   Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
   Option "Emulate2Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
   Option   "DontZap"   "False"
EndSection


and when i run autoconfig for the xorg command in terminal i get this output in xorog.conf:
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# xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# Note that some configuration settings that could be done previously
# in this file, now are automatically configured by the server and settings
# here are ignored.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Device"
   Identifier   "Configured Video Device"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier   "Configured Monitor"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier   "Default Screen"
   Monitor      "Configured Monitor"
   Device      "Configured Video Device"
EndSection


I know im probably not the only person, but if there is anyone else with a Dell latitude D600 and running Mint 7 RC1 and are having this problem promplty direct them to paste their xorg.conf file. I've tried the first 2.5 pages of Dell Latitude D600 Linux xorg files i found on google. none solve the problem, none effect anything in anyway...

I am sorry for posting twice.. i wont do it again.. ill delete the other post
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Re: Laptop inboard mouse problem

Postby AK Dave on Thu May 28, 2009 3:55 pm

When you did cat /proc/buss/input/devices you had the external mouse plugged in. Didn't you.

Thats why I see:
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I: Bus=0017 Vendor=0001 Product=0001 Version=0100
N: Name="Macintosh mouse button emulation"


In addition to:
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I: Bus=0011 Vendor=0002 Product=0001 Version=0000
N: Name="PS/2 Generic Mouse"


Please somebody who uses a Mac on a regular basis correct me, but I believe that "Macintosh mouse button emulation" means "one button mouse". Every Mac that I've ever used was a single button mouse. On the basis of this trivia, your computer is attempting to emulate a Mac mouse. Not a PC mouse. And thats why your right click isn't working right.

Here's what I'm thinking you try:
disable the touchpad, use only the external mouse. How to disable it? Reboot to the CMOS screen, and one of the options in there will be to disable it. You might even find other relevant options therein, but I'm not familiar with the CMOS options on a D600. But disable it and use an external mouse. You might need to run this command: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and reboot. You should be in good shape then.
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Re: Laptop inboard mouse problem

Postby waltermoore on Thu May 28, 2009 4:16 pm

Everything is Generic on my computer, lspci,lsusb and the cat device command doesnt show that I have a apple mouse (personaly not worth getting one, too expensive) the xorg.conf was a copy paste from someone else who has a dell lat. d600. what worked for him/her i thought would work for me.. but apparently not. I was talking to someone whos using another linux distro, a command line (forget the name), and he sent me his xorg file, even that didnt work.
I have done the autoconfiguration commands multiple times, nothing new, nothing happened. still have right click problems
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Re: Laptop inboard mouse problem

Postby AK Dave on Thu May 28, 2009 6:12 pm

waltermoore wrote:Everything is Generic on my computer, lspci,lsusb and the cat device command doesnt show that I have a apple mouse (personaly not worth getting one, too expensive) the xorg.conf was a copy paste from someone else who has a dell lat. d600. what worked for him/her i thought would work for me.. but apparently not. I was talking to someone whos using another linux distro, a command line (forget the name), and he sent me his xorg file, even that didnt work.
I have done the autoconfiguration commands multiple times, nothing new, nothing happened. still have right click problems


Now I am very well and truly confused:
1. Did you, or did you not, pipe the output of "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" where it showed Name="Macintosh mouse button emulation"? Was that your output, or was that something you copied from someone else? You posted it! Did you read it?
2. Did you, or did you not, pipe the output of "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf" where it showed Option "Protocol" "PS/2 Emulation"? Was that yours, or did that come from someone else's system also? Again, you posted it!
3. Did you try disabling your touchpad through CMOS as I asked you?
4. Did you have an external mouse plugged in when you did "cat /proc/bus/input/devices"?
5. Did you ever try reconfiguring xserver-xorg AFTER disabling the touchpad?

Walter, there is no such thing as "generic". A Dell D600 is not a discrete simple "generic" item. The same computer could have, and was, built by Dell in more than one way. Your D600 may not be 100% identical to someone else's D600.
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Re: Laptop inboard mouse problem

Postby waltermoore on Thu May 28, 2009 7:00 pm

1- yes, sorry my mistake. didnt read it.
2- yes, did read it, copy and pasted from someone elses
3- whats CMOS??
4 -NO USB OR ANY EXTERNAL MOUSE.. only inboard mouse and touchpad.
5- .... Whats CMOS?
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Re: Laptop inboard mouse problem

Postby AK Dave on Fri May 29, 2009 3:24 am

waltermoore wrote:4 -NO USB OR ANY EXTERNAL MOUSE.. only inboard mouse and touchpad.


You have an internal mouse AND a touchpad? I guess I need to see a pic of a D600. Ahh, I see: you have an eraserhead and a touchpad, with separate buttons for each. You should be able to disable one of them via CMOS.

Next time you reboot, you'll have to be quick about this but there will be the option to press some keystroke and get to the settings or setup menu for your laptop. I don't know what keystroke you need to use on a D600.
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Re: Laptop inboard mouse problem

Postby waltermoore on Fri May 29, 2009 11:13 am

I went into the BIOS for my laptop... and it doesnt have a way to turn it off... :( :twisted: shall punt it in the motherboard!
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Re: Laptop inboard mouse problem

Postby jaspmatt on Fri May 29, 2009 11:29 am

Google around for the Fn key combinations for your particular laptop. Mine has Fn-F9 to toggle the mousepad on and off.
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Re: Laptop inboard mouse problem

Postby waltermoore on Fri May 29, 2009 5:32 pm

no FN key combo I know works.. and googled it. and cant find any... ill get a new keyboard for my laptop anyways.. my dumb sister broke off one of my ALT keys. and the keyboard is a little old. lol. gotta love sisters that are 5 years older than you. (im 19) such pains..
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