dwell clicker used to work but does not work now

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dwell clicker used to work but does not work now

Postby weirdwarp on Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:42 am

I am physically disabled and cannot use the computer without assistive technologies.

I installed Mint no problem and was very impressed. I found the assistive technologies and I couldn't believe my luck I might actually be able to use Linux as well as Windows. The clicker worked but then the computer started freezing on start.

I realised that there could be updates that I hadn't installed so I updated with the one and 2 updates not installing any updates other than these.

Mint seems to work well now but the only problem that I have now is that the dwell clicker is not working. I believe all the boxes are ticked but I do not see the click selector and the mouse does not click automatically, not even the left click.

I have tried kmouse tool and for me that is useless as it only has a left click.

I am using the menu under assistive technologies. Are there any other ways of setting this? Should I reinstall the assistive technology and if so what do I need to reinstall?

Are there any other dwell clickers that anybody knows about out there that does all the clicks?

Thanks for any help,

Chris (a complete Linux newbie so make it simple please)
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Re: dwell clicker used to work but does not work now

Postby DrHu on Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:55 pm

It is part of the default Gnome installation, I don't think there is a separate package available under that name assistive technologies (or assistive, or assist) in the Ubuntu (jaunty)/Mint (Gloria) repositories
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-ac ... 34.html.en

In Linux Mint 7 main edition 32bit (Gnome desktop)
Dwell Click is available if you right-click the taskbar (default location is bottom of the screen), and add Dwell Click

  • Right click Gnome panel, at the bottom of the sceeen
  • Add to panel
  • Dwell Click
What happens ?

Assistive Technologies (Ubuntu 9.04 (jaunty)<-->Linux Mint 7 (Gloria)
http://www.counterpunch.org/~blinux/lis ... 00187.html
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1236545
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he_dxv90EGg
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Re: dwell clicker used to work but does not work now

Postby weirdwarp on Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:29 am

Thanks for the reply. I have scoured the ubuntu repositories with no luck.
right clicking on the taskbar the dwell click does come up (very nice) but it doesn't work. Only the left-hand mouse button is selected and none of the others are selectable. This isn't the dwell click panel that I had before, that panel was black and could be moved around the screen although I do prefer the one in the taskbar.

Thanks for the other links very interesting, I can't get the gok keyboard to work (I am sure that I have all the packages to go with it) but on looking at konqueror I found out one of the extensions was kvkbd and this worked direct from the repositories, it's not a great on-screen keyboard but it is a keyboard nonetheless.

I still could do with that dwell click working though!
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Re: dwell clicker used to work but does not work now

Postby DrHu on Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:56 am

weirdwarp wrote:Only the left-hand mouse button is selected and none of the others are selectable.

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xor ... recognized
Hmm, yes that will depend on your mouse hardware (it has or has not extra buttons, 3 button mouse for example, and that if it does have extra buttons, your /etc/X11/xorg.conf includes those button settings
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto

My /etc/X11/xorg.conf file with a default selection for Logitech Trackman
http://www.amazon.com/review/R8XOJYMMF5WD7
    "Aside from the steep learning curve involved in using the thumb-mounted trackball"
Well, I didn't find it to be any type of learning curve.
    Section "InputDevice"
    # generated from default
    Identifier "Mouse0"
    Driver "mouse"
    Option "Protocol" "auto"
    Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
    Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
    Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
    EndSection
--all my scrolling and mousewheel and clicks work (left and right buttons)


I am also guessing that you have been using the KDE version of Linux Mint, based on your comments, I don't have that version running

Remember to log out/in to get the desktop assistance technology (software ) changes applied..

Accessability issues..
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-ac ... e/gok.html
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-ac ... -5.html.en
fullscreen mode is not available normally, if you use a virtual (onscreen keyboard)
    --this might make it quite awkward with browsers that cannot resize the onscreen windows or stick in one mode (fullscreen) or the other a smaller windows size..

Gok, Gnome onscreen keyboard includes a dwell feature
    It is available in synaptic (mint menu>Package manager) installing Gok and gok-doc
just type gok in the search area at the top of the screen
--you may want to hit the reload button (top left side of synaptic) first to see if any updates are available for the installed OS.,.

You can also install it via a terminal
    apt search gok
    --check if gok (Gnome Onscreen Keyboard) is available in the repositories
    p gok - GNOME Onscreen Keyboard
    p gok-doc - documentation files for the GNOME Onscreen
    sudo apt-get update
    --update the system repository list
    sudo apt-get upgrade
    --any OS or appications updates needed
    sudo apt-get install gok
    --will probably pull in gok-doc as well

Also have a look at dasher..
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-ac ... er.html.en
    Dasher is an information-efficient text-entry interface, driven by natural continuous pointing gestures. Dasher is a competitive text-entry system wherever a full-size keyboard cannot be used - for example on a palmtop or wearable computer, or when operating any computer one-handed (by joystick, touchscreen or mouse) or zero-handed (eg, by head-mouse or eye-tracker).
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-ac ... -0.html.en
    --generally fixing mouse/keyboard options..

http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-ac ... ks.html.en
    Most mouse-related accessibility options can be found by using System ▸ Preferences ▸ Mouse and selecting the Accessibility tab. Two additional panel applets can optionally be added to the GNOME menu bar / system panel as well; see the sections below. The full manual can be viewed by selecting the Help item from the contextual menu of the Dwell Click applet.
    mousetweaks for clicks/click types..
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Re: dwell clicker used to work but does not work now

Postby weirdwarp on Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:45 am

I have the Linux Mint eight main edition. The kde keyboard I installed myself. I do have an annoying main menu ubuntu icon. I also changed the main menu to the old gnome menu as it makes it makes it more accessible for me.

I have installed gok but it hasn't appeared on the main menu. I have had a look around and found the folder but can't find the executable. If I need to change to another type of Mint and then the accessibility features will work then could you point me in the right direction.

Thanks again for those links and the instructions.

I do have Dasher installed, it's better than nothing but pretty slow and not as good as an on-screen keyboard.
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