Ubuntu Lucid to Mint Isadora

[swiftarrow]

Hi All! My first post here...

I want a Linux Mint Studio, but it's nowhere. So I am thinking to upgrade from ubuntu studio to linux mint... will this work?

I started by searching for a Linux Mint Studio edition, with RT kernel, etc, but only found a thread that proposes it: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=12773
There is no studio edition afaik.

Plan B, as it stands, is (vaguely):

1. Install Ubuntu Studio 10.04
2. Somehow, install everything on the Linux Mint Isadora DVD
Would that give me Mint? Or should I do it the other way around (Mint first)? Or something entirely different?

It has been written ad nauseum that upgrading from Ubuntu to Mint does not give you the full Mint experience. Pray Tell, WHAT is missing?

I've searched high and low for a list of differences (not "experience" differences, but technical, package-wise differences) between Ubuntu and Mint, but it doesn't exist! Not having that, I have no way of ensuring that I get all the configs / mint-specific packages, etc. Is this list anywhere? Or can we make a list now?

Thanks!

[FedoraRefugee]

If it were me I would just use Ubuntu Studio. In all honesty the only thing Mint brings to the table are the Mint tools and the default configuration. Basically Linux is Linux. If you wanted you could just add the Mint repo to Ubuntu (making sure the versions match of course) so you could install the tools and theme pack. By doing this you could essentially turn Ubuntu Studio into Mint Studio, but again, I really see no point.

[swiftarrow]

Thanks for your reply!

you could install the tools and theme pack

Is that really the only difference? I read somewhere about configuration files, context menus, etc... is there a way to get those too?

I get that Ubuntu Studio should be enough... and I have enough experience to set it up how I'd like with codecs, context menu entries, etc, so it's how I'd like it, BUT...

How I'd like it is very similar to Mint. Very, very similar. And I happened to use Mint on a friends pc, and fell in love... AND, I want to leave ubuntu, mainly because of the cheesy new branding in 10.04. Of course, I can always take that off, I know. But that's not my type of solution.

Plain and simple: Mint is gorgeous. I want UbuntuStudio's RT kernel and package lists in Mint.

So how do I get everything? Not just the tools, codec, and theme pack, the config files, context menus, etc?

And, btw, I would like to use the resulting system to pull together a .mint configuration script (I have to learn about those still) to create Mint Studio, once I've got the system going.

[FedoraRefugee]

Well...Go back to that thread you linked, last post of page 4 I give directions to install the real time Ubuntu kernel:

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sudo apt-get install linux-image-rt

I did mention that I have not actually tried this myself and do not know what kind of trouble you could get in, but look at it this way, the worst that could happen is you reinstall!

Sure, give it a try. Install Mint and add the RT kernel then add the apps you need for your studio. Again, Linux is Linux, what can be done in one can be done in all.

I would not hold my breath for a Mint Studio version though. It is not for me to say, but I have a feeling it is not likely to happen...

[swiftarrow]

Thanks again!

Yes I saw that code before.

I have an issue with installing the rt kernel after installing the normal one. My current system was configured that way (only going from ubuntu to ubuntustudio), and the RT kernel has never received any updates, only the normal one. Additionally, the normal kernel is kept as default in grub (again, I can change that easily), but this behavior made me feel that the system should have only one kernel: RT or otherwise, not two.

I guess I could install mint, then do:

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sudo apt-get install linux-image-rt


Reboot into the RT one, and then:

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sudo apt-get remove linux-image


and that would leave me with just one (RT) kernel... Is this stupid / asking for trouble?

Also,

• Is going from UbuntuStudio to Mint going to give me a true Mint Studio?
• What should I focus on to get a true Mint (not just packages, but the configurations as well)?
• How do I create a .mint script to duplicate the setup once it's done, to share with others?

[FedoraRefugee]

What happens in most Linux distros is you actually do keep two kernels! The older one is for backup in case the newer one does not work or quits working. This way you can select the older kernel on reboot and still have a working machine to fix the newer kernel. Of course strange things can happen such as the machine deciding it wants to use the regular kernel as default. You need to boot up normally and make sure the RT kernel is running by running:

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uname -a

from a terminal. If the RT kernel is running then you should be good to start installing your studio apps. Just use the Ubuntu list on the studio site and synaptic in Mint to get these packages.

[FedoraRefugee]

Just as a footnote, I successfully installed the rt kernel. The only snag is it is on version 2.6.31-9-rt whereas the generic kernel is 2.6.31-14-generic (unless it has been updated within the last week, I did not check). In any case, it is not hard to force Grub to boot into the rt kernel. All you would have to do from here is to install your audio apps.



edit! Oh, I should have noted, this is on Mint 8!!! I do not know what the Mint 9 kernel is up to! That puts the RT kernel way behind, but that should not matter if you need it.

[swiftarrow]

Nice! And btw, very nice window manager theme... what are you using?

I guess the RT kernel lags behind a bit, so that's just something I'll have to live with.

One more thing that just occured to me is that the sound subsystem in Ubuntu Studio is Jack, and I'm sure it's something else (PulseAudio?) in Mint. This may be one thing that simply adding packages will not be able to change...

On my current system, I upgraded from plain ubuntu to ubuntustudio, and the sound is still handled in the old way; if I want to use Ardour or similar sound programs, I have to start Jack and configure it manually. I'd like to have a system with Jack as the default, which I *think* might be the case with plain UbuntuStudio... I will have to look into this more clearly.

[DennisLfromGA]

You've probably resolved this issue by now, since Mint 10 Julia has already arrived but I succesfully installed Mint 10 and then just searched for 'ubuntu studio' from the menu and selected the suggestion "Install package 'ubuntustudio-desktop'" and it downloaded and installed the entire package - very cool.

Hope this helps - and it's not too late...