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Celena installed! Problems:

Postby T J Tulley on Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:43 am

Celena is successfuly installed in hd0-2 - where Bianca was originally installed and then deleted.

Cassandra remains in hd1-1. Windows (with errors) remains in hd0-1

Grub now offers Celena at top of menu, but describes it as 2.6.20.15-generic which was the identification of Bianca. Grub still offers Cassandra as 2.6.20.16, now at the bottom of the menu. That boots as before, with error messages which have to be bypassed with [Enter]; Ctrl+D.

Problems with Celena:
1 Help not available: Help doc. user-guide/userguide.xml not found
2 SATA 2 hard drive not shown on desktop or in System Monitor - recognised by BIOS during boot. This has 3 partitions 1 of which is empty. At present not important. Is shown by Cassandra (sometimes!) when I boot to that.
3 What appears on desktop screen is variable - so far improving. It has always been variable in Cassandra. Partitions are doubly represented - as icons for Desktop Configuration Files with permissions for User, and also as icons for folders with permissions for root. These open to give read-only access. I want to change the "owner" but find the syntax for CHMOD incomprehensible.

Here is the System log of the beginning of this morning's boot:

Oct 11 10:45:50 TJT4Celena syslogd 1.4.1#20ubuntu4: restart.
Oct 11 10:45:50 TJT4Celena kernel: Inspecting /boot/System.map-2.6.20-15-generic
Oct 11 10:45:50 TJT4Celena kernel: Loaded 24975 symbols from /boot/System.map-2.6.20-15-generic.
Oct 11 10:45:50 TJT4Celena kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.6.20.
Oct 11 10:45:50 TJT4Celena kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled.
Oct 11 10:45:50 TJT4Celena kernel: [ 0.000000] Linux version 2.6.20-15-generic (root@palmer) (gcc version 4.1.2 (Ubuntu 4.1.2-0ubuntu4)) #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 (Ubuntu 2.6.20-15.27-generic)
Oct 11 10:45:50 TJT4Celena kernel: [ 0.000000] BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
Oct 11 10:45:50 TJT4Celena kernel: [ 0.000000] sanitize start
Oct 11 10:45:50 TJT4Celena kernel: [ 0.000000] sanitize end
- and much more.

Here is device.map from /boot/grub: Note that hd3 is missing.

(hd0) /dev/sda
(hd1) /dev/sdb
(hd2) /dev/sdc

Here is device.map from Cassandra (/media/sdb1/boot/grub)

(hd0) /dev/sdb
(hd1) /dev/sdc
(hd2) /dev/sdd

I may have been misled by the identification of sdd but the partitions & contents appeared to be correct - at that time I hadn't viewed this map.

I shall be particularly grateful for advice about access to Help, access to SATA2, and syntax of chmod - I don't understand the terms used in its manual.
Yours hopefully -

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Celena installed! Problems:

Postby T J Tulley on Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:22 pm

Further to the details in my earlier post, the 4th disc hd3 (SATA2) is shown in Device Manager, so it is present, with 2 occupied partitions. Why not in System Monitor or on Desktop? [Later: it does appear in /media with 1 partition as sdd1].

There is a space problem: I am trying to insert my data and it appears that the partitions of 15 GB and 18 GB which I created to be used for general storage and "home" are not being used. They are formatted as ext3. I could see no way to label one of them as home as suggested during the system install process.

From the Desktop I open Computer/File System which reveals the contents of Celena, where I select /media. This includes links to most of the other partitions including 1 on sdd, and in these I can open any of my data stores. Is it safe to rely on this route for access to them? While I was using Cassandra I copied My Documents from hda1 into my user folder /home/theo - here there isn't room for it.

Contrary to advice, Bianca and Cassandra were installed into a single large partition and that seems to have worked better. Can I expand my present working partition (at present ~4GB) or install home in one of the others?
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Postby Boo on Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:22 am

please post the contents of /etc/fstab.

please post the result of :
sudo fdisk -l

don't worry all can be fixed.
are you saying that you did use a separate /home partition on Cassandra?

you can expand file systems but there are alot of conditions.
depending on the file system it is best done from a live CD.

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Postby T J Tulley on Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:51 am

Thanks Boo: Here are the 2 results:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/sda5
UUID=fd440b73-47a9-40b4-a381-392eba4b0f47 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
# /dev/sda1
# /dev/sdb1
UUID=77f4c4f4-5fc1-4145-b303-7e2b1c4986c6 /media/sdb1 ext3 defaults 0 2
# /dev/sdb2
# /dev/sdb3
# /dev/sdc1
# /dev/sdc3
UUID=77f4c4f4-5fc1-4145-b303-7e2b1c4986c6 /media/sdc3 ext3 defaults 0 2
# /dev/sda6
UUID=93448e5e-0816-4132-bf73-9173680d2d30 /sda6 ext3 defaults 0 2
# /dev/sda7
UUID=2eabed6e-7176-4e50-8c82-47432f62e0d9 /sda7 ext3 defaults 0 2
# /dev/sda8
UUID=dde25846-c904-479d-8fc4-2a5b12afe49b none swap sw 0 0
# /dev/sdb5
UUID=d0922872-1e6b-4193-9415-2274f8e4a247 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/scd1 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0

theo@TJT4Celena:/etc$ sudo fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 82.3 GB, 82348277760 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 10011 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1 5227 41985846 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda3 * 5228 10011 38427480 5 Extended
/dev/sda5 5228 5737 4096543+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda6 5738 7561 14651248+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda7 7562 9749 17575078+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda8 9750 10011 2104483+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Disk /dev/sdb: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 1 5227 41985846 83 Linux
/dev/sdb2 5228 10454 41985877+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb3 * 10455 15681 41985877+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb4 15682 24321 69400800 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sdb5 15682 24321 69400768+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Disk /dev/sdd: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdd1 * 1 5291 42499926 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdd2 5292 10441 41367375 5 Extended
/dev/sdd3 10442 15668 41985877+ 83 Linux
theo@TJT4Celena:/etc$

I look forward to your further advice: I note that you're on the other side of the world!
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Postby Boo on Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:02 pm

all right there is something crazy going on here.
first question is do you have 3 or 4 physical hard disks?and what sizes are they? are any of your cdroms SATA?

the fdisk tells me you only have 3 hard disks.
an 82.3GB disk, a 200GB disk and a 500GB disk.

another thing, are you only booting using grub or are you sometimes using the bios (eg f9) at boot to select a different sata disk to boot off?

I am starting to think that you have one sata CDROM and 3 sata HD and they are plugged into the sata controller in this order:
hd0, hd1, cdrom, hd3.
am i correct?

before i start thinking of other crazy configs I will wait for your answers.
could you also post a: df -h

adding the storage(sda6) and home(sda7) partitions is easy.
we will add the storage first.
make a mount point for the storage partition and give all access to it.
sudo mkdir /storage
sudo chmod 777 /storage

unmount the storage partition.
sudo umount /sda6

edit the fstab file and change the line:
UUID=93448e5e-0816-4132-bf73-9173680d2d30 /sda6 ext3 defaults 0 2
to
UUID=93448e5e-0816-4132-bf73-9173680d2d30 /storage ext3 defaults 0 2

sudo vi /etc/fstab

to keep things clean just reboot
after the reboot you will have a partition for storage mounted at /storage.
check out via df -h
you may not be able to write in /storage so change the permissions again.
sudo chmod 777 /storage

I am assuming here that the storage partition is empty.

so setting up a home partition is very similar but with some backups.
the guide in the wiki for moving your home is very good.

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Celena installed! Problems:

Postby T J Tulley on Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:19 am

Thanks again, Boo:
Replies to your questions:
I have 4 hdds -
2 IDE disks (primary Master [80GB] & Slave [200 GB])
DVD writer & CDROM (secondary master & Slave)
1 IDE disk in adapter on SATA1 [200 GB]
1 SATA disk [500 GB]

I am booting only using grub. The BIOS screen appears first of course, showing detection of the 4 IDE devices; after delay the screen very rapidly shows detection of the 2 SATA discs - I can hardly read it in time - then goes to its boot device (part of motherboard) and then on to grub. [If I go into BIOS setup, the SATA devices are never offered for booting - what about if I want to use one for that purpose?]

From Cassandra installation:
theo@TJT4LxCassandra:~$ df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdd3 40G 21G 17G 57% / - - - - - Booted system - Cassandra in hd1-1 See note below
varrun 502M 224K 502M 1% /var/run
varlock 502M 0 502M 0% /var/lock
procbususb 502M 172K 502M 1% /proc/bus/usb
udev 502M 172K 502M 1% /dev
devshm 502M 0 502M 0% /dev/shm
lrm 502M 33M 469M 7% /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile
/dev/sdc2 41G 20G 21G 48% /media/sdb1
fusesmb 40G 21G 17G 57% /home/theo/Network
theo@TJT4LxCassandra:~$
Above copied to a Tomboy note, then to a file stored in a path accessible from Celena in re-boot.

From Celena installation: (Note the difference!)
theo@TJT4Celena:~$ df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda5 3.9G 2.2G 1.6G 59% / - - - - - Booted system - Celena in hd0-2
varrun 502M 112K 502M 1% /var/run
varlock 502M 0 502M 0% /var/lock
procbususb 502M 172K 502M 1% /proc/bus/usb
udev 502M 172K 502M 1% /dev
devshm 502M 0 502M 0% /dev/shm
lrm 502M 33M 469M 7% /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile
/dev/sdb1 40G 23G 15G 61% /media/sdb1
/dev/sdb1 40G 23G 15G 61% /media/sdc3
/dev/sda6 14G 164M 13G 2% /sda6
/dev/sda7 17G 173M 16G 2% /sda7
fusesmb 3.9G 2.2G 1.6G 59% /home/theo/Network
/dev/sda1 41G 21G 20G 52% /media/sda1 - - - - - This is WinXPPro inhd0-1
/dev/sdb2 41G 20G 21G 48% /media/sdb2 - - - - - This is Cassandra in hd0-2
/dev/sdb3 41G 22G 19G 55% /media/sdb3
theo@TJT4Celena:~$

I have added annotations on the Right. In each case the booted system appears again as "devsmb". hd0-2 is actually sda5 - thus numbered because of previous deleted partitions. sda6 & 7 were created within hdo-2 intended to become /store & /home, plus another to be swap which doesn't appear here.

BTW, some days ago I did copy Cassandra to hd3-3 using SystemRescue - surely it can't be booting from that? It wouldn't be up to date.

Note that today the third hdd (IDE in SATA adapter) is not shown in either - nor is it in Device Manager - which won't copy. I suspect an intermittent contact in the adapter - it has shown in the past. It has 3 partitions with identified names when it does appear. I think the changing PHYSICAL status of this disk has caused confusion in this story. hd3 can appear as sdc if hd2 is recognised, or sdd if it isn't.

I have just repeated the command you requested before, with a slightly different result (Annotated this time):
theo@TJT4Celena:~$ sudo fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 82.3 GB, 82348277760 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 10011 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1 5227 41985846 7 HPFS/NTFS - - - - WinXPPro
/dev/sda3 * 5228 10011 38427480 5 Extended
/dev/sda5 5228 5737 4096543+ 83 Linux - - - - Celena (was Bianca)
/dev/sda6 5738 7561 14651248+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda7 7562 9749 17575078+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda8 9750 10011 2104483+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Disk /dev/sdb: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 1 5227 41985846 83 Linux - - - - - Cassandra
/dev/sdb2 5228 10454 41985877+ 7 HPFS/NTFS - - - - - Image of hd0-1
/dev/sdb3 * 10455 15681 41985877+ 7 HPFS/NTFS - - - - - Later image of hdo-1
/dev/sdb4 15682 24321 69400800 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sdb5 15682 24321 69400768+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Disk /dev/sdc: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdc1 * 1 5291 42499926 7 HPFS/NTFS - - - - Copy of hd0-1 WinXPPro (with errors - won't open)
/dev/sdc2 5292 10441 41367375 5 Extended
/dev/sdc3 10442 15668 41985877+ 83 Linux - - - -Copy of hd1-1 Cassandra (I've never seen this dislayed from here).
theo@TJT4Celena:~$

Now hd3 is reported as sdc; previously it was sdd although there was then no sdc reported. (My mail of Friday 12/10/07 refers).

I will send this now, and then try your advice about storage and home partitions: they are not quite empty and I may have to re-install - will write again afterwards.

Hope you're having a good night's sleep! I have a grand-daughter in Melbourne.
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Celena installed! Problems:

Postby T J Tulley on Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:28 pm

Midnight here!

I successfully created the folder storage and changed the line in the fstab file - had to use sudo chmod 777 /fstab first.

After rebooting I used sudo chmod 777 /storage again. It now contains lost+found which is empty, as is sda6, when viewed in File Browser, but in System Monitor /dev/sda6 is listed as /storage, with 163.1 MB used, out of its 13.8 GB. Puzzling discrepancy - but evidently whatever was in sda6 is still there.

I have still to tackle the similar exercise with /home, and haven't yet looked for the wiki article you recommend. I shall be grateful for a URL to that if you reply before I'm around tomorrow. That will be sda7, 16.5 GB, currently containing 172.1 MB.

I am looking at the task of importing my Thunderbird profile from Cassandra to Celena - I have all the material in the Mozilla Knowledge Base but have problems with access for backing up - in spite of using chmod 777 /etc/mozilla-thunderbird it still appears with the cut option greyed out - I have created a folder mozbkp in /etc to accept it for temporary backup. Of course that isn't a suitable home for a long-term backup. The advice in the Knowledge Base doesn't mention such issues.

After completing this exercise of making Celena my effective operating system, there will remain the puzzle of grub still seeing its location as the site of now deleted Bianca. It is however correctly the default selection by grub.
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Postby Boo on Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:11 pm

here is the wiki link for home
http://www.linuxmint.com/wiki/index.php ... _partition
you have some really crazy disk (re)allocation/naming going on

here is how to move your home from cassandra to a separate partition on celena.
boot into celena.
list the contents of /media/sdb2 to check that it is Cassandra / partition.
list /media/sdb2/home to check if it is your home on Cassandra.
if it is the right home
copy the cassandra home to the new home partiton

sudo cp -a /media/sdb2/home /sda7

unmout your new home.
sudo umount /sda7

now edit your /etc/fstab file and change the line:
UUID=2eabed6e-7176-4e50-8c82-47432f62e0d9 /sda7 ext3 defaults 0 2
to
UUID=2eabed6e-7176-4e50-8c82-47432f62e0d9 /home ext3 defaults 0 2

reboot for neatness.
now your home is on a separate partition.

I hope it all works.

BTW are you having booting problems still?
some people change the UUID=nnn to the /dev/sdnn above it.
but due to your system strange boot and registration of disks I think the use of the UUID is the best option because it will not change but the sdnn seems to change on every boot.

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Postby T J Tulley on Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:54 pm

Thanks for that Boo: it worked but a serious snag remains: my Home folder is owned by root and therefor a normal session won't start in Celena. Cassandra is getting worse every time and I shall be glad to remove it.

When I boot into Celena I get: "/home/theo/.dmrc file is being ignored - - -
This file should be owned by user and have 644 permissions."

I found my way into the "safe" terminal and ran sudo chmod 777 /home and also sudo chmod 777 /home/theo. These commands were apparently accepted. They haven't achieved the required effects.

Ultimately I finished with a "safe" Gnome session which I'm in now - I have spent some time setting it up, but I believe that is wasted work.

Everything seems to work normally but I haven't yet set up an account in Thunderbird here. The desktop display appeared without all my links which I've been restoring. All the partitions (except the working system) are as usual displayed twice - as folders belonging to root and as desktop configuration files belonging to me. Correction - Cassandra (in sdb1) only appears in the root version.

In the root directory sda 6 & 7 are both empty; both belong to root - still.

System Monitor shows /dev/sda6 as /home, with 11.7 of 16.5 GB used. Does this automatically overflow into /dev/sd7 which is /storage?

Home (belonging to root) contains three folders - brown folder (belonging to root) showing a padlock also labelled "home", a red lost+found (belonging to root, empty) and theo (belonging to me) - 9 items modified 16th October. That looks like the original contents of home in Cassandra in spite of the date.

However the brown padlock "home" opens to show another "theo" (also belonging to root) which IS what came from Cassandra. It contains 16 items modified 15th October. Clearly identified by the various downloads.

If with your advice I can configure the imported theo to be owned by me, (I suspect the original should first be deleted) I hope that this will contain the account information for Thunderbird and the mail which has accumulated in Cassandra. There were a few more today but I think I can deal with these individually.

I've just tried to copy the imported theo from the "child" home (with padlock) into the "parent" home folder but of course this failed because of the missing permissions. I think this is what needs to be done after those permissions are corrected. It will overwrite existing files of the same name.

So: I'm still hoping.
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Re: Celena installed! Problems:

Postby Boo on Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:17 pm

T J Tulley wrote:Thanks for that Boo: it worked but a serious snag remains: my Home folder is owned by root and therefor a normal session won't start in Celena. Cassandra is getting worse every time and I shall be glad to remove it.

When I boot into Celena I get: "/home/theo/.dmrc file is being ignored - - -
This file should be owned by user and have 644 permissions."

I found my way into the "safe" terminal and ran sudo chmod 777 /home and also sudo chmod 777 /home/theo. These commands were apparently accepted. They haven't achieved the required effects.

the /home dir is always owned by root. so set the permissions back.
sudo chmod 755 /home

now for your home dir /home/theo
sudo chown -R theo:theo /home/theo
sudo chmod -R 755 /home/theo

now we have to check the hidden files permissions in your /home/theo.
ls -la /home/theo
the hidden files/dirs have a . at the front like the .dmrc one.
they should be owned by you. if they are not change them.(they get missed sometimes)
sudo chown -R theo:theo /home/theo/.dmrc

T J Tulley wrote:Everything seems to work normally but I haven't yet set up an account in Thunderbird here. The desktop display appeared without all my links which I've been restoring. All the partitions (except the working system) are as usual displayed twice - as folders belonging to root and as desktop configuration files belonging to me. Correction - Cassandra (in sdb1) only appears in the root version.

In the root directory sda 6 & 7 are both empty; both belong to root - still.

System Monitor shows /dev/sda6 as /home, with 11.7 of 16.5 GB used. Does this automatically overflow into /dev/sd7 which is /storage?


sda7 is your /home and sda6 your /storage.
home will not overflow into storage. or visa versa.

the dirs /sda6 and /sda7 are not used any more, they were mount points for their respective partitions. you can delete them if you want to.
sudo rm -rf /sda6
sudo rm -rf /sda7

but we could move your home to sda6, delete the sda7 partition and then expand the sda6 partition.

try rebooting now and logging in again.

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Postby T J Tulley on Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:30 pm

Thanks once again, Boo: Nearly finished at last!

There was no .dmrc in /home/theo but there was one in /home/home/theo (imported from Cassandra) - I copied it to the first position, it belongs to me, but I still get the warning: it must belong to user, with 644 permissions.

It is in fact a small plain text file, which when opened contains only:
[Desktop]
Session=default

So what do I do about that?

I have now copied the parts of my Cassandra /home/theo which are relevant so my Thunderbird has transferred completely (but still awaits import of archives from Outlook Express - that's going to be tricky - I may remove some of them to a separate store to reduce backup times). Similarly I have excluded My Pictures and My Documents from the items copied from my Cassandra home.

I have decided to keep separate archives for mail and pictures. I subscribe to several mailing lists, and backups take a very long time.

I decided not to import the Cassandra Firefox profile - I might pick up the Bookmarks to save re-creating them.

Once the .dmrc problem is sorted, I propose to sudo rm /home/home
Any comments?

The remaining minor problem is that grub still sees Celena as Bianca (which it replaced).

I suppose it can be edited but I expected the process to be automatic - when Bianca installed grub as a dual-boot system, it recognised all the supposed bootable systems on the PC - actually there were 4 Windows 'images' which appeared to be bootable. When Cassandra was installed on a separate hdd it was added and went to the top.

Now grub only offers one of the Windows, and places Celena (with alternative 'safe' versions) at the top - but still labels it with the version number which applied to Bianca.
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Postby Boo on Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:37 pm

could you post your /etc/fstab and df -h.

the grub menu list is just an edit so you could post your /boot/grub/menu.lst.
when grub is installed it finds every OS and adds it to the list.
later on it will not remove them if they disappear.

looks like i missed something if you have a /home/home/...
the second home should be on top of the second (sort of hiding it).

the .dmrc file is probably just an ownership problem from how you copied it.
like before just change its ownership.
sudo chown theo:theo /home/theo/.dmrc
sudo chmod 644 /home/theo/.dmrc

but if we get new home in the right place all should be good.

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Postby T J Tulley on Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:44 am

Thanks yet again, Boo.

I thought of using 644 in chmod - here is the terminal log after starting this session (i.e. a copy of the terminal screen):
theo@TJT4Celena:~$ ls -a
. .gtk-bookmarks Pictures
.. .gtkrc-1.2-gnome2 .profile
.bash_history .gtkrc.mine Projects
Desktop .ICEauthority .recently-used
.dmrc .lesshst .recently-used.xbel
Documents .linuxmint .smb
Downloads .macromedia .sudo_as_admin_successful
.esd_auth .metacity Templates
.gconf .mozilla .thumbnails
.gconfd .mozilla-thunderbird .tomboy
.gksu.lock Music .tomboy.log
.gnome .nautilus Videos
.gnome2 nautilus-debug-log.txt .wapi
.gnome2_private Network .xsession-errors
.gstreamer-0.10 .openoffice.org2
theo@TJT4Celena:~$ sudo chmod 644 /.dmrc
Password:
chmod: cannot access `/.dmrc': No such file or directory
theo@TJT4Celena:~$ sudo chmod 644 /home/.dmrc
chmod: cannot access `/home/.dmrc': No such file or directory
theo@TJT4Celena:~$ locate /.dmrc
/home/home/theo/.dmrc
theo@TJT4Celena:~$ sudo chmod 644 /home/home/theo/.dmrc
theo@TJT4Celena:~$

What puzzles me is that /.dmrc was not found when it was in the ls -a of the opening prompt. locate didn't find it there either.

Here are the 2 results you requested:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/sda5
UUID=fd440b73-47a9-40b4-a381-392eba4b0f47 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
# /dev/sda1
# /dev/sdb1
UUID=77f4c4f4-5fc1-4145-b303-7e2b1c4986c6 /media/sdb1 ext3 defaults 0 2
# /dev/sdb2
# /dev/sdb3
# /dev/sdc1
# /dev/sdc3
UUID=77f4c4f4-5fc1-4145-b303-7e2b1c4986c6 /media/sdc3 ext3 defaults 0 2
# /dev/sda6
UUID=93448e5e-0816-4132-bf73-9173680d2d30 /storage ext3 defaults 0 2
# /dev/sda7
UUID=2eabed6e-7176-4e50-8c82-47432f62e0d9 /home ext3 defaults 0 2
# /dev/sda8
UUID=dde25846-c904-479d-8fc4-2a5b12afe49b none swap sw 0 0
# /dev/sdb5
UUID=d0922872-1e6b-4193-9415-2274f8e4a247 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/scd1 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0

theo@TJT4Celena:~$ df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda5 3.9G 2.2G 1.6G 59% /
varrun 502M 112K 502M 1% /var/run
varlock 502M 0 502M 0% /var/lock
procbususb 502M 560K 501M 1% /proc/bus/usb
udev 502M 560K 501M 1% /dev
devshm 502M 0 502M 0% /dev/shm
lrm 502M 33M 469M 7% /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile
/dev/sdb1 40G 22G 17G 57% /media/sdb1
/dev/sdb1 40G 22G 17G 57% /media/sdc3
/dev/sda6 14G 181M 13G 2% /storage
/dev/sda7 17G 2.1G 14G 14% /home
fusesmb 3.9G 2.2G 1.6G 59% /home/theo/Network
/dev/sda1 41G 21G 20G 53% /media/sda1
/dev/sdb2 41G 20G 21G 48% /media/sdb2
/dev/sdb3 41G 22G 19G 55% /media/sdb3
theo@TJT4Celena:~$

The / - File Browser screen for /home looks like this:

home
> home
>> theo
> lost+found
> theo

The first /theo in /home/home came from Cassandra; I have copied what I want from it and it should be removed. I want therefor to delete the "inner" /home and its contents, but the terminal log reads:
theo@TJT4Celena:~$ sudo rm /home/home
Password:
rm: cannot remove `/home/home': Is a directory
theo@TJT4Celena:~$

Finally, /boot/grub/menu.lst is an 8.7 kB plain text document - I am printing it for ease of editing - 6 pages!
I would normally send such an item as an attachment. However - here it is: (with my comments in red):

# menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
# grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),
# grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
# and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.

## default num
# Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and
# the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
default 0

gfxmenu=/etc/grub/message.mint

## timeout sec
# Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry
# (normally the first entry defined).
timeout 10

# Pretty colours
color cyan/blue white/blue

## password ['--md5'] passwd
# If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive editing
# control (menu entry editor and command-line) and entries protected by the
# command 'lock'
# e.g. password topsecret
# password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/
# password topsecret

#
# examples
#
# title Windows 95/98/NT/2000
# root (hd0,0)
# makeactive
# chainloader +1
#
# title Linux
# root (hd0,1)
# kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
#

#
# Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST

### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below

## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs

## ## Start Default Options ##
## default kernel options
## default kernel options for automagic boot options
## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
## kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
## kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
# kopt=root=/dev/sda5 ro

## default grub root device
## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
# groot=(hd0,4)

## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. alternative=true
## alternative=false
# alternative=true

## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. lockalternative=true
## lockalternative=false
# lockalternative=false

## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
## alternatives
## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
# defoptions=quiet splash

## altoption boot targets option
## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
## altoptions=(recovery mode) single
# altoptions=(recovery mode) single

## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
## alternative kernel options
## e.g. howmany=all
## howmany=7
# howmany=all

## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
## e.g. memtest86=true
## memtest86=false
# memtest86=true

## ## End Default Options ##

title Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic Was Bianca, now Celena
root (hd0,4)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=/dev/sda5 ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
boot

title Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic (recovery mode)
root (hd0,4)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=/dev/sda5 ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
boot

title Linux Mint, kernel memtest86+
root (hd0,4)
kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin
boot

### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

# This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
# ones.
title Other operating systems:
root


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
# on /dev/sda1
title Microsoft Windows XP Professional Boots but fails to complete start process
root (hd0,0)
savedefault
makeactive
chainloader +1


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdb1.
title Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.20-16-generic (on /dev/sdb1) Cassandra
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=77f4c4f4-5fc1-4145-b303-7e2b1c4986c6 ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-16-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdb1.
title Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.20-16-generic (recovery mode) (on /dev/sdb1)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=77f4c4f4-5fc1-4145-b303-7e2b1c4986c6 ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-16-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdb1.
title Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic (on /dev/sdb1)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=UUID=77f4c4f4-5fc1-4145-b303-7e2b1c4986c6 ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdb1.
title Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic (recovery mode) (on /dev/sdb1)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=UUID=77f4c4f4-5fc1-4145-b303-7e2b1c4986c6 ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdb1.
title Linux Mint, memtest86+ (on /dev/sdb1)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdb1.
title Linux Mint, memtest86+ (on /dev/sdb2) (on /dev/sdb1)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdb1.
title Ubuntu 7.04 (7.04) (on /dev/sdd6) (on /dev/sdb1)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=/dev/sdd6
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdb1.
title Ubuntu 7.04 (7.04) (on /dev/sdd8) (on /dev/sdb1)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=/dev/sdd8
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
# on /dev/sdb2
title Microsoft Windows XP Professional Earliest remaining image - fails to boot
root (hd1,1)
savedefault
makeactive
map (hd0) (hd1)
map (hd1) (hd0)
chainloader +1


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
# on /dev/sdb3
title Microsoft Windows XP Professional Latest image - fails to boot
root (hd1,2)
savedefault
makeactive
map (hd0) (hd1) I don't understand this
map (hd1) (hd0)
chainloader +1


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdc3. This should be sdd3
title Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.20-16-generic (on /dev/sdc3) Copy of sdb1 with errors - unreadable
root (hd2,2) The real hd2 must have been unrecognised when this was compiled. It contains no systems, only data backups.
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=77f4c4f4-5fc1-4145-b303-7e2b1c4986c6 ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-16-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdc3.
title Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.20-16-generic (recovery mode) (on /dev/sdc3)
root (hd2,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=77f4c4f4-5fc1-4145-b303-7e2b1c4986c6 ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-16-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdc3.
title Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic (on /dev/sdc3)
root (hd2,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=UUID=77f4c4f4-5fc1-4145-b303-7e2b1c4986c6 ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdc3.
title Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic (recovery mode) (on /dev/sdc3)
root (hd2,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=UUID=77f4c4f4-5fc1-4145-b303-7e2b1c4986c6 ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdc3.
title Linux Mint, memtest86+ (on /dev/sdc3)
root (hd2,2)
kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdc3.
title Linux Mint, memtest86+ (on /dev/sdb2) (on /dev/sdc3)
root (hd2,2)
kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdc3.
title Ubuntu 7.04 (7.04) (on /dev/sdd6) (on /dev/sdc3)
root (hd2,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=/dev/sdd6
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdc3.
title Ubuntu 7.04 (7.04) (on /dev/sdd8) (on /dev/sdc3)
root (hd2,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=/dev/sdd8
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
savedefault
boot
Yours hopefully -

Theo Tulley.
Using a PC with 2GB RAM, 3 hdds and a 1.7 GHz Celeron cpu.
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Postby Boo on Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:16 pm

look here for some command line info:
http://www.linuxmint.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4306

using ls -la is much more helpful, the l means long info output.

your:
What puzzles me is that /.dmrc was not found when it was in the ls -a of the opening prompt. locate didn't find it there either.

is looking in the wrong place, it is looking in the / directory not your home dir which is /home/theo/.dmrc or ~/.dmrc. the ~ is an alias for a users home directory. since you were in your home directory you could have used ./.dmrc, the first . says start in the directory i am currently/presently in.
the command pwd lists the present working directory that you are in.

some pointers
/home is the base directory for all users home dirs, it is not an actual home directory.
your home directory is /home/theo (the theo dir is your home)
mine would be /home/boo
remember Linux is a multi user system so everyone will need their own home directory. you could have thousands of users.

grub: menu.lst
the first title section (or 3) under "## ## End Default Options ##" is the current OS system. do not delete/change these. it is not Bianca now, you are just using the original kernel.

all the sections under "title Other operating systems: " are other OS's found at install.
MS boot entries. MS installs have to be or "think" they are on a Master/first hard disk. so
map (hd0) (hd1)
map (hd1) (hd0)
is like swapping the hard disks around and is done when a MS install is not on the master disk. here you are swapping hard disks 0 and 1 around. now the MS install on hd1 thinks it is hd0 the master disk.

the section "# linux installation on /dev/sdc3. This should be sdd3 " may not work due to how it was coppied or most likely with your complex hardware setup it all got a bit confused. it happens.
the fix may be to change
root (hd2,2) to root (hd3,2)

I will post a simplified fstab and menu.lst soon.

to remove a dir and all its contents use
sudo rm -rf /path/to/dir

eg sudo rm -rf /home/home/theo
or sudo rm -rf /home/home

be very careful as you can easily delete your whole system if you put in the wrong path.

:D
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Postby Boo on Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:26 pm

fstab for neatness: (and save your old one: sudo cp -a /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.old )

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# /dev/sda5
UUID=fd440b73-47a9-40b4-a381-392eba4b0f47 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
# /dev/sdb1
# UUID=77f4c4f4-5fc1-4145-b303-7e2b1c4986c6 /media/sdb1 ext3 defaults 0 2
# /dev/sda6
UUID=93448e5e-0816-4132-bf73-9173680d2d30 /storage ext3 defaults 0 2
# /dev/sda7
UUID=2eabed6e-7176-4e50-8c82-47432f62e0d9 /home ext3 defaults 0 2
# /dev/sda8
UUID=dde25846-c904-479d-8fc4-2a5b12afe49b none swap sw 0 0
# /dev/sdb5
/dev/scd1 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0

menu.lst clean up (save old: cp -a /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.old)

# menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
# grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),
# grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
# and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.

## default num
# Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and
# the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
default 0

gfxmenu=/etc/grub/message.mint

## timeout sec
# Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry
# (normally the first entry defined).
timeout 10

# Pretty colours
color cyan/blue white/blue

## password ['--md5'] passwd
# If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive editing
# control (menu entry editor and command-line) and entries protected by the
# command 'lock'
# e.g. password topsecret
# password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/
# password topsecret

#
# examples
#
# title Windows 95/98/NT/2000
# root (hd0,0)
# makeactive
# chainloader +1
#
# title Linux
# root (hd0,1)
# kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
#

#
# Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST

### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below

## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs

## ## Start Default Options ##
## default kernel options
## default kernel options for automagic boot options
## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
## kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
## kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
# kopt=root=/dev/sda5 ro

## default grub root device
## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
# groot=(hd0,4)

## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. alternative=true
## alternative=false
# alternative=true

## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. lockalternative=true
## lockalternative=false
# lockalternative=false

## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
## alternatives
## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
# defoptions=quiet splash

## altoption boot targets option
## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
## altoptions=(recovery mode) single
# altoptions=(recovery mode) single

## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
## alternative kernel options
## e.g. howmany=all
## howmany=7
# howmany=all

## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
## e.g. memtest86=true
## memtest86=false
# memtest86=true

## ## End Default Options ##

title Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic
root (hd0,4)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=/dev/sda5 ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
boot

title Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic (recovery mode)
root (hd0,4)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=/dev/sda5 ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
boot

title Linux Mint, kernel memtest86+
root (hd0,4)
kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin
boot

### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

# This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
# ones.
title Other operating systems:
root


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
# on /dev/sda1
title Microsoft Windows XP Professional
root (hd0,0)
savedefault
makeactive
chainloader +1


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdb1.
title Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.20-16-generic (on /dev/sdb1) Cassandra
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=77f4c4f4-5fc1-4145-b303-7e2b1c4986c6 ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-16-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdb1.
title Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.20-16-generic (recovery mode) (on /dev/sdb1)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=77f4c4f4-5fc1-4145-b303-7e2b1c4986c6 ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-16-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdb1.
title Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic (on /dev/sdb1)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=UUID=77f4c4f4-5fc1-4145-b303-7e2b1c4986c6 ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdb1.
title Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic (recovery mode) (on /dev/sdb1)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=UUID=77f4c4f4-5fc1-4145-b303-7e2b1c4986c6 ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdb1.
title Ubuntu 7.04 (7.04) (on /dev/sdd6) (on /dev/sdb1)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=/dev/sdd6
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdb1.
title Ubuntu 7.04 (7.04) (on /dev/sdd8) (on /dev/sdb1)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=/dev/sdd8
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
# on /dev/sdb2
title Microsoft Windows XP Professional
root (hd1,1)
savedefault
makeactive
map (hd0) (hd1)
map (hd1) (hd0)
chainloader +1


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
# on /dev/sdb3
title Microsoft Windows XP Professional
root (hd1,2)
savedefault
makeactive
map (hd0) (hd1)
map (hd1) (hd0)
chainloader +1


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdc3. This should be sdd3
title Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.20-16-generic (on /dev/sdc3)
root (hd3,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=77f4c4f4-5fc1-4145-b303-7e2b1c4986c6 ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-16-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdc3.
title Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.20-16-generic (recovery mode) (on /dev/sdc3)
root (hd3,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=77f4c4f4-5fc1-4145-b303-7e2b1c4986c6 ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-16-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdc3.
title Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic (on /dev/sdc3)
root (hd3,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=UUID=77f4c4f4-5fc1-4145-b303-7e2b1c4986c6 ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdc3.
title Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic (recovery mode) (on /dev/sdc3)
root (hd3,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=UUID=77f4c4f4-5fc1-4145-b303-7e2b1c4986c6 ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
savedefault
boot

# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdc3.
title Ubuntu 7.04 (7.04) (on /dev/sdd6) (on /dev/sdc3)
root (hd2,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=/dev/sdd6
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdc3.
title Ubuntu 7.04 (7.04) (on /dev/sdd8) (on /dev/sdc3)
root (hd2,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic root=/dev/sdd8
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-15-generic
savedefault
boot
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Celena installed! Problems:

Postby T J Tulley on Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:54 am

Thanks once again , Boo, for a very lucid explanation. I have printed the Fosswire command reference table and the shorter list from 67GTA in the following post.

I have saved the fstab.old and edited fstab as you suggest, except that I have retained the UUID line for /dev/sdb5 - that is the swap file for sdb1 - created automatically when Cassandra was installed.

I haven't time at present to edit grub - but am puzzled by the fact that you inserted a smiley instead of 8) in 4 places in the header of the copy you returned. I thought they might be references but don't know where to.

Aha - now I have typed info grub and see a 72-line exposition - followed by:
SEE ALSO
The full documentation for grub is maintained as a Texinfo manual. If
the info and grub programs are properly installed at your site, the
command

info grub

should give you access to the complete manual.

But that is what I did type! I will pursue the other references in this way.

When I do edit grub, I propose to remove all references to non-working and removed systems - including 2 incomplete copies which were in /sdc6 and /sdc8. Presumably any future installations will appear automatically.

Warning signs - yesterday and today at first boot, hard disc error - press F1 to resume - no response. Ctrl-Alt-Del restarted and then Busybox appeared while loading Celena - Ctrl-Alt-Del again and all was well. I shall copy the system onto another partition (or 3) before I close this time! This will be on HD2. I copied my /home/theo to that drive yesterday as a backup, but shall investigate the possibilies of cron and its siblings for scheduling backups.

I'm struggling with imported files to Thunderbird but am pursuing that problem separately in the TB Support Forum.

Once again, many thanks for your great patience.
Yours hopefully -

Theo Tulley.
Using a PC with 2GB RAM, 3 hdds and a 1.7 GHz Celeron cpu.
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Postby Boo on Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:35 am

I didn't put smilies in stuff just got automagicly put that way. :shock:

I just guessed one of those swap partitions to remove since you only need one. you can point multiple linux installs to use the one swap space since only one linux is ever running.

just use the man (manual) command on commands and config files for info.

man grub
man menu.lst

info tends to have the same stuff as man (ie a copy).

some HD stuff could be coincidental.

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Postby merlwiz79 on Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:08 am

The BBCode uses : ) put next to each other as a smile.
If you want to put something with these in it, highlight the info and click the Code button.
This will leave everything as is and put it in a box.
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