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Completely new and have a few questions... :)

Postby bjarkekr on Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:50 pm

First some hardware stuff.. :)

I have a mouse with buttons on the side and a scrollwheel button. How do I enable these buttons??

I also have a keyboard with special keys, like turn up and down sound and such, can I configure those buttons somehow?


Then I read about the 3d stuff in linux mint... How do I enable that?? I think I have made my ati card work and I have set the correct resolution and refresh rate, so I guess I just need to enable that 3d thingie somehow.. ;)


Then I have experienced something weired a couple of times.. The whole system "locks" so I cant do anything but press the power btn on my case. It has happened twice since install (which is now 2 hours ago.). That cant be normal, right?


Ok, and remember that when you explain anything to me, it has to be VERY pinned out, because im a complete linux noob..

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Ohh.. And I just found out that my sound card doesnt work either... I have an onboard soundcard and a soundblaster something.. Doesnt matter which ones work.
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Postby Husse on Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:04 pm

Welcome to Mint bjarkekr
You have an ATI card and drivers for ATI are a bit problematic.
It may be really hard to get Beryl/Compiz working, but not "ordinary 3D"
Tell us which card you have and I will give you the solution (or the forum member Lolo Uila)

The mouse and keyboard are configured in xorg.conf
Can't help you with the keyboard but with the mouse
In xorg.conf you probably have a section that looks like this
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Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Configured Mouse"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "CorePointer"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option         "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Protocol may be different
You have to replace
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Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
with
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Option      "Emulate3Buttons"   "false"
Option      "ButtonMapping"      "1 2 3 6 7"

To do this you must take some help from the terminal (provided you use gnome)
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sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf

This opens a text editor as root so you can make the changes.
First back up xorg.conf
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sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak

Just copy from here :)
No you should not have lock ups at all. However some hardware is a bit "tricky"
For sound please tell us which sound card (exactly) and motherboard you have
Sorry for this start but some hardware gives problems...
Had you for instance used nvidia video card and motherboard - no problems.....(that can't be solved by installing in "safe graphics mode" - mostly)
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Postby bjarkekr on Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:27 pm

I just booted to windows...

But here is some info I have from device manager in windows

Sound card: Creative SB Audigy

My motherboard is: Abit AS8-V


I have tried following this guide:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449

When I write "aplay -l" in terminal I get a list with 3 cards.. One of them is the audigy card (dont remember the name now)

Step 3 in the above guide links to something that seems to be different than what the guide is talking about, so im not sure if I did the right thing in step 4...

Well thats about as far as I've got.


Well I think my ati card has been installed correctly. I tried installing and running the quake3 western clone with no problems..

Its an Ati9500 card.
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Postby GrayWizardLinux on Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:06 pm

Husse - you say backup Xconf - I did in another thread re: my double tap on the track pad to stop and it crashed and I had to reinstall celena which I am still reworking....anyway - how do you RECOVER the backed up Xconf or whatever? I tired everything and nothing and then basically no help for a while and i was stuck soi i was forced to reinstall.

what is the command to use the backup file?

thank you.
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Postby 900i on Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:34 pm

sudo cp xorg.conf.bak xorg.conf
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Postby GrayWizardLinux on Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:37 pm

thanks 900i.
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Postby Husse on Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:10 am

I think it may be a bit of a problem to get Beryl to work.
It seems you have 3D OK, but not Beryl?
Then leave it, it's not worth tampering...
As for sound - check that the sound card built into the motherboard is disabled in BIOS This is no guarantee that it won't be used by Mint, but...
I believe that Audigy should work out of the box
Check all settings in anything related to sound and least but last that the speakers are properly connected
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Postby bjarkekr on Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:01 am

ok.. It worked when I disabled onboard soundcard in bios :)

thanks
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Postby Lolo Uila on Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:24 pm

Which ATI card do you have?

Beryl should work, but certain models require some extra software.

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Postby bjarkekr on Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:05 pm

Ati 9500
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Postby Lolo Uila on Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:55 pm

The 9500 should work with the default open-source Linux driver.

Take a look here for info:
http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty ... ati_radeon

Just follow the steps for setting up the driver and xorg.conf file. You don't need to install Beryl since it comes pre-installed in Cassandra & Celena.

If you are still experiencing random lock ups after configuring the driver, comment out the "AGPMode" & "AGPFastWrite" lines, and check your motherboard's BIOS to see if you can force AGP 4X mode. I had a 9700 Pro that hated the open-source driver at AGP 8X, but ran fine at 4X (although it had to be set in the BIOS, the "AGPMode" "4" line in xorg.conf didn't help).

If none of that helps, you might have to go to the infamous ATI "fglrx" binary driver (that same card I mentioned above ran fine at 8X with the fglrx driver). It's a bit of a pain to set up, but it does offer better performance. Of course, this is assuming it's your video card causing the locks. I knew that was the case in my system because I could pull the 9700 Pro and run the on-board Intel graphics with no problems. If it's something else in your system...

Oh, and the next time your system seems to be hard locked, don't hit the reset or power switch. That's bad for the system. Hold down the Alt & SysRq (Print Screen) keys, and type REISUB to get a clean reboot.

Let us know how it goes with the open-source driver.
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Postby bjarkekr on Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:23 am

Well.. Dont you think my driver is allready set up??

I mean I can play that 3d western quake game with no problems..

I just need to know how to start beryl.. :) I cant seem to figure that out, thats all...
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Postby Husse on Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:23 pm

just need to know how to start beryl.
That's what the link in the post directly above is about - note that Beryl is installed in Mint Cxxxx and that some ATI cards have problems
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Postby bjarkekr on Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:35 pm

Husse wrote:
just need to know how to start beryl.
That's what the link in the post directly above is about - note that Beryl is installed in Mint Cxxxx and that some ATI cards have problems


ok, I just thought it was for getting it to work.. Read the pages now.. :)

So I cant start it through the menu system?? I have to go to a console and write:
beryl-manager

And do all the page 3 stuff if I want to use it as default?

I tried starting the beryl-manager in the menu, but nothing happened.
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Postby Husse on Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:26 am

tried starting the beryl-manager in the menu, but nothing happened.
You should get a red gem next to the clock. Right click it and select Window manager > Beryl
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Postby bjarkekr on Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:33 am

When I do that the screen flickers and goes back to Metacity...

I can select Compiz, and it stays there... But I dont see a difference.
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Postby Lolo Uila on Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:14 am

If it won't stay on Beryl then you have driver problems. Did you follow the steps in the link to set up the driver?
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