red-e-made wrote:Christof999 wrote:I'd rather see less releases of Linux if it meant that when Linux came out it actually worked flawlessly on everyones computers. Although flawlessly for Celena may be a bit of an exaggeration since I just reinstalled Celena after posting that message and got Disk boot failure No Operating system. Thus far I have spent a week running on live CDs since no one distro has managed to just install and work. Celena was working great but now I can't even get it to boot. I got suse to boot, but no sound. Mint has sound (on the live cd, flawed sound however) but won't boot. I don't understand why one distribution can get something to work, while another can't. Why don't you guys all get together and just make one distribution that works instead of 100 that partially work? Or at least you could share your secrets with other developers so this stuff wouldn't happen.
One more time:
1: Pre-installed OS's will always work on your machine, because they're already formatted by the people who installed them.
2: Installing an OS on a machine yourself - and that often includes upgrades (especially one that's taken as big a leap as was taken from Celena from Daryna) - will always require some effort on your part.
3. If you don't want to exert any effort in this regard, buy a machine with a pre-installed OS.
I'll hold back from going into a rant about the culture of total convenience that seems to reign over the Western world, but I will say that you shouldn't blame Linux developers for not being able to create an OS that runs flawlessly on every conceivable computer known to man. To borrow your car analogy, this is a bit like asking that engineers design an engine that can suit every vehicle on the face of the earth.
Christof999 wrote:Secondly, I realize that being anti-western is the hip thing to do for many ...
Christof999 wrote:To address the point, perhaps you think that people who want a working computer are being spoiled but I think that it is you who are out of touch. I certainly don't mind having to do a bit of work, and have done so in past releases, and not bothered to complain much. However when I have lost a week of time trying to get a system to even boot up and run for a few minutes it goes far beyond basic convenience. I have solved many (too many) problems with my computers, including linux over the years, and simply want it to just work.
Christof999 wrote:Finally to address your point that if one buys a pre-installed computer it will work without flaws, well that is simply hogwash. I have in the past bought pre-installed systems and had to do much maintenance and tweaking on them.
Finally to address your point that if one buys a pre-installed computer it will work without flaws, well that is simply hogwash. I have in the past bought pre-installed systems and had to do much maintenance and tweaking on them. Sometimes it would take a month or two, but things would inevitably break and I would without a doubt eventually be reaching for the restore disks.
P.S.: I installed daryna today and with one go it went through.no hassless.
I did not try wireless..It might not even work...but I will let this know rather than making a fuss about it..
I hope i did not offend anybody.If I did I am sorry.
sundayrefugee wrote:You're really mad because you chose a free car, instead of buying one, and you've found that it's impossible for a volunteer car-maker to design a part that fits every single car on earth without modification. In addition, the gearshift is too far away for your taste, and instead of finding out how to place it where you'd like, you'd rather flame the volunteer car-maker whose free car you chose.
Sorry. Having trouble manufacturing tears for you.
smelph wrote:not sure if I just got lucky or something
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