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Questionson different things, just trying to gain knowledge

Postby ZoundZ on Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:59 pm

Sorry for making another thread so soon after my last, but, I'm trying to learn a lot of things at once about how Linux works.

Now, to make my questions have more value, a little history:

The first time I used Linux was within a virtual machine, and I knew nothing of LInux. It was some distro that uses KDE. I thought it was cool that there was another type of OS, but I didn't care for it to much. About a month ago I heard talking of Linux, and that stirred up my tinkering with it(XP has always been annoying to me, but still better that Mac). I downloaded about 15 distros that looked appealing to me, and the first one I fired up was Geubuntu. I loved it, and knew that Linux was going to be my OS. I thought Geubuntu was going to be on my computer forever, until I started running into problems. What drew me in so much was Enlightenment, I loved the taskbar(well, the equivalence of it to Windows, not sure what you call it on Linux), the speed, and the eye candy. While using Geubuntu, and while searching for a new distro, I was learning as much about the Linux world as I could. Now I'm using Mint, and I'm quite happy with it, but, GNOME doesn't seem as spectacular as Enlightenment did to me. So, I downloaded Enlightenment, but ran into annoyances.

I know Mint uses GNOME as the default DE, along with Metacity for the WM, and Nautilus as the FM. What I'm trying to learn now is the difference, and how to change desktop environments, windows managers, and file managers. This is what I understand to be the differences:

DE- It provides the applications within your OS, such as the media players, administration panels, etc. Also makes the icons on your desktop

WM- It is responsible for how everything is displayed on the screen, and virtual windows and such.

FM- Controls the navigation between files.

First question is, is Enlightenment "desktop shell", halfway between a DE and a WM because it's a DE without it's own applications to fill in? That's what I've come to as my own conclusion for now.

Second, can Enlightenment have it's file manager switched? I absolutely HATE the file manager(or, what I explained above to be what I think of as the file manager), and I like Nautilus, what I have on Mint when using GNOME. The plain windows with no options in Enlightenment make it unusable to me.

Third, I am an intermiediate computer programmer, I created and manage an online game called Saggy Wars(http://www.saggy-wars.com), I know PHP, MySQL, CSS, some Java and C++, and bits of JavaScript and XML. By this time next year I will be in college classes building my C++ skills, and I'm just about to finish up a wimpy introduction class to it in high school. I want to build things for Linux, at first some applications, but eventually I think I want to build my own WM. Are there any guides to this, or just general information on building things for Linux?

Sorry for all the writing, I got a little excited once I started typing about this stuff. :oops:
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Re: Questionson different things, just trying to gain knowledge

Postby newW2 on Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:53 pm

Welcome to Linux Mint ZoundZ. It's great to see such enthusiasm. There are many resources available to you. This is one of them:
http://freebooks.homelinux.org/index.php

There's a link to it from the Mint Wiki page. Here are some others and they may be repeats of what's on the above link.

http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html
http://tldp.org/LDP/nag2/index.html
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-Building-HOWTO-2.html
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/d ... eading.txt
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/6.3/
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Happy reading!
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Re: Questionson different things, just trying to gain knowledge

Postby ZoundZ on Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:32 am

Thanks. :) I started reading some of it. Since I'm using this thread for questions, how do I use this: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/ ... tent=72611

I can't figure out how to execute it. :(
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Re: Questionson different things, just trying to gain knowledge

Postby newW2 on Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:28 am

From reading the posts, I'm not sure, but it looks like this is something possible with Pidgin (I don't use it so?). It may be possible to use this (RE: your post) as a gDesklets eyecandy screentlet that can be added to the desktop. See the gDesklets site and the howto url:

http://gdesklets.de/
http://www.howtoforge.com/gnome_gdesklets_p3
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Re: Questionson different things, just trying to gain knowledge

Postby McLovin on Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:01 pm

it's actually a screenlet, it wont with gDesklets, to got screenlets open a terminal and enter
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sudo apt-get install screenlets
that should get you the screenlets core
then you have to install it, this is a little more roundabout, and doesn't work properly for some screenlets, not sure why though. But to do it, open a terminal and enter
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sudo nautilus
and navigate to /user/share/screenlets and extract the contents of the archive to there, and start screenlets and see if it is in there, if it now you have to open the folder that hase the .py and open it directly.
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