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FREEZING

Postby javenic007 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:45 pm

hello,
i like liux i really do i have been using ubuntu right up till recently never had a problem with it. so i decide to change it up read somewhere that mint 12 is not too bad so i install it. and MY FRICKEN SCREEN KEEPS FREEZING EVERYTIME I TRY TO WATCH A VIDEO FILE ON OR OFF LINE. lol ok now that THAT is out i have my tower running to an actual t.v so i dont know if that is the issue or not. dont know how to check anything im used to just installing the OS and i can basically install throughterminal that is the jist of my knowledge. so upon saying that i hope someone responds to this post.

thank you anything would be nice :D
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Re: FREEZING

Postby Midnighter on Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:11 pm

What video card and other hardware do you have? What version of mint do you have installed?
If you accept - and I do - that freedom of speech is important, then you are going to have to defend the indefensible. That means you are going to be defending the right of people to read, or to write, or to say, what you don't say or like or want said.
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Re: FREEZING

Postby FDF on Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:16 am

in a terminal, type the command lspci
and post the answer here, so we will see about your hardware.
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Re: FREEZING

Postby javenic007 on Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:58 pm

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82915G/P/GV/GL/PL/910GL Memory Controller Hub (rev 04)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82915G/P/GV/GL/PL/910GL PCI Express Root Port (rev 04)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 03)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev d3)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FR (ICH6/ICH6R) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) IDE Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FW (ICH6/ICH6W) SATA Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
06:00.0 Communication controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. SoftV92 SpeakerPhone SoftRing Modem with SmartSP (rev 01)
06:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82562ET/EZ/GT/GZ - PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller (rev 01)

i am running mint 12 that i installed off a cd. quick note i did have this problem with ubuntu 10.04 but not to this extent, also thank you for the totally awesome quick replies.
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Re: FREEZING

Postby Midnighter on Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:36 am

What kind of tv is it, and what size screen? Your unit only seems to have Intel integrated grapics, so may not be up to outputting video properly to it. I can't be certain, I've never outputted to a tv. You say it freezes if played on eb (thru a browser i presume) or locally (thru a media player app, Gnome-mplayer for example?). How much RAM is allocated in the BIOS to the onboard video?
If you accept - and I do - that freedom of speech is important, then you are going to have to defend the indefensible. That means you are going to be defending the right of people to read, or to write, or to say, what you don't say or like or want said.
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Re: FREEZING

Postby Cliff on Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:45 pm

Hello, I have been having screen-computer freezes for quite some time with Mint-12 but not 11 or 10, they worked fine. Control+Backspace and REISUB did nothing. Meanwhile the cooling fans are running at or near full speed indicating a heavy CPU load. I was having to power off/on each time. I have tried different desktops, have spent hours upon hours googling and reading. I tried every suggestion offered or that I read about, did a complete reinstall twice and even replaced my Broadcom 4312 with an Intel 6200 wifi card. I also installed ArchLinux and OpenSuse, dual booting with Mint-12. They also eventually had freezing problems but not as often. I discovered quite a few others are having the same problem from searching various forums. Everyone seems to come up with various reasons, hardware, video, drivers, video/audio players or other software, etc.
The only common theme that I could find was that they are all Linux, running later release Kernels. I read the bug reports and found various reasons offered for the problem and some fixes offered. These were tried but didn't work. I did suspect a link between the wifi carrier dropping out for a second and then returning. I'm pretty sure this had something to do with the lock-ups but I never could find any logs reflecting this as the logs stopped recording when the freeze occurs. However when visiting a relative whose wifi carrier never dropped out, my computer never locked up.
I think there's a problem with the kernel not maintaining system integrity when this or something similar is happening, but not being a programmer I can't prove it. I eventually will file a bug report although I can't yet document anything.
I finally decided to dual-boot FreeBSD which I'm still running and has an up-time so far of 2 weeks continuously on line. During that time the wifi carrier has dropped out & returned but it doesn't affect the system at all.
Does anyone have any other suggestions for solving this problem?
I've been a Mint user since 2006 and would love to continue using Mint full time but I can't put up with using the power button for a reset.

I'm using a standard Dell 1545 Laptop, 200GB Hard Drive with 3GB Ram.

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Re: FREEZING

Postby javenic007 on Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:45 am

an emerson 32 " flat creen and i dont know the answer to the allocatio to the bios
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Re: FREEZING

Postby 67GTA on Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:36 pm

Cliff wrote:Hello, I have been having screen-computer freezes for quite some time with Mint-12 but not 11 or 10, they worked fine. Control+Backspace and REISUB did nothing. Meanwhile the cooling fans are running at or near full speed indicating a heavy CPU load. I was having to power off/on each time. I have tried different desktops, have spent hours upon hours googling and reading. I tried every suggestion offered or that I read about, did a complete reinstall twice and even replaced my Broadcom 4312 with an Intel 6200 wifi card. I also installed ArchLinux and OpenSuse, dual booting with Mint-12. They also eventually had freezing problems but not as often. I discovered quite a few others are having the same problem from searching various forums. Everyone seems to come up with various reasons, hardware, video, drivers, video/audio players or other software, etc.
The only common theme that I could find was that they are all Linux, running later release Kernels. I read the bug reports and found various reasons offered for the problem and some fixes offered. These were tried but didn't work. I did suspect a link between the wifi carrier dropping out for a second and then returning. I'm pretty sure this had something to do with the lock-ups but I never could find any logs reflecting this as the logs stopped recording when the freeze occurs. However when visiting a relative whose wifi carrier never dropped out, my computer never locked up.
I think there's a problem with the kernel not maintaining system integrity when this or something similar is happening, but not being a programmer I can't prove it. I eventually will file a bug report although I can't yet document anything.
I finally decided to dual-boot FreeBSD which I'm still running and has an up-time so far of 2 weeks continuously on line. During that time the wifi carrier has dropped out & returned but it doesn't affect the system at all.
Does anyone have any other suggestions for solving this problem?
I've been a Mint user since 2006 and would love to continue using Mint full time but I can't put up with using the power button for a reset.

I'm using a standard Dell 1545 Laptop, 200GB Hard Drive with 3GB Ram.

Cliff


Same problem here with Dell Studio 1569. This started with kernel 3.0. I used Ubuntu 11.10 with 2.6.39 with no problems. 12.04 has 3.2 with the same freeze. I installed openSUSE 12.2 milestone 3 yesterday running kernel 3.3, and haven't had a freeze for 13 1/2 hours uptime. Hopefully this has been fixed with kernel 3.3. Fingers crossed...
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Re: FREEZING

Postby Cliff on Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:22 pm

I'll keep watching, as soon as Mint 13 is released I'll install it & see how it goes.
I've installed Mint 8, 9, 10, 11, & 12 on many friends and relatives computers over quite a few years with very few problem (they're still friends!).
The reason I use Mint is because, unlike Ubuntu, it didn't break after a good install, the codecs were ther and almost everything worked or could be easily fixed.
I have lots of faith in Clem & the gang so I'm sure it'll be corrected.

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