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Re: Mint Debian

Postby rivenought on Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:52 pm

I feel special. My Mint Debian boots and works pretty darn good. The sound mixer applet will not open, but I do have sound. The mintUpdate icon gives permission errors/granting access problems, but loading it via the menu works. During the extremely-long installation (1.5 DSL and about 90 minutes), when it came to the Java license, all my words/letters turned into blank rectangles. I guessed on the rest with two rectangles = no and three rectangles = yes. I think I made the correct choices without knowing what the questions were. :D

I am not running anything virtual. I used a spare machine with a 30 GB hard drive and perfomend a regular installation. This is on an old Dell Dimension 4300 with 512 MB RAM and an ATI Rage Pro video card.

I can figure out the Mint parts, but the Debian parts are slightly different. This is fun. When I get a firmer grasp of Debian, this Mint Debian is going to be a blast. This is really the best of everything. I hope you other guys can get up and running since I want to learn from what you get figured out.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby cmost on Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:37 pm

maybeway36 wrote:The Mint Debian 6 Release Candidate 1 is up now on Filefront:
http://files.filefront.com/MintDebianNetinstNov18+RC1iso/;12412427;/fileinfo.html
This ISO behaves similarily to the Debian "netinst" image. It will automatically enable Debian non-free, debian-multimedia, and the Mint Felicia Main repository, as well as install the Mint Debian packages. (Yes, this now includes Synatpic. :P)
The only known bugs as of now are that the splash screen doesn't seem to work (at least in VirtualBox) and the Logout/Quit dialogs have the panel background tiled on them, which doesn't look very nice but works just fine.
If you have a VM (e.g. VirtualBox, VMware, QEMU) or testing machine, please test it out and let me know what you think.


I don't see how you can include standard Linux Mint repositories in Mint Debian. Felecia is based on Ubuntu Ibex so its packages will not be compatible with Debian proper. Can you please clarify?
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby msuggs on Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:38 pm

In a virtual box mine failed at Grub install. Lilo didn't work either. This was using the GUI installer, will try text based next.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby knuckles on Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:40 pm

for me the text-based installer worked but the gui-installer didn't in Virtualbox
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby msuggs on Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:45 pm

omns wrote:In a virtual box mine failed at Grub install. Lilo didn't work either. This was using the GUI installer, will try text based next.

Text installer failed at grub/lilo as well.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby maybeway36 on Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:46 pm

Zwopper - what is your kernel version? For me, kernel 2.6.26-1-686 is working fine in VirtualBox, but if it doesn't work for you, try installing in expert mode with the 486 kernel.
cmost - To my knowledge, all of the packages Mint Debian uses from the main Mint repository are written in Python, and use plain-text Python and Glade files in place of binaries. This makes them compatible with Debian. Of course, some Ubuntu-compiled binary apps can still run on Debian - it's sort of hit-and-miss when you get to that.
As for GRUB problems, I'm not really sure how to fix that. I didn't experience that when I installed in VirtualBox, although it's likely a problem with the Debian testing distribution, hence it not being stable. :P I'll test it in QEMU too and see if that works.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby wuying_ren on Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:11 am

It works on my VirtualBox without problems. :D

Zwopper wrote:Mine installs just fine, but crashes 5 seconds after initial boot.


Zwopper, try enabling PAE on the virtual machine configuration. I remember the 686 kernel asking for it days ago while testing another Mint debian iso. Using the 486 kernel, as maybeway36 suggests, is another solution.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby codepilot on Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:05 am

wuying_ren wrote:Zwopper, try enabling PAE on the virtual machine configuration.


Thanks, that helped even for my VM. I'm running Mint Debian from Nov 18 using a Sun VirtualBox. Now I'm on installing KDE, having a look at it :).
Keep up this great work! I'm really looking forward for a public, official release.

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Re: Mint Debian

Postby maybeway36 on Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:46 pm

A final release won't come until after Mint 6 itself is released; I don't want to steal their thunder. :)
I hope to have a full install CD/DVD available then as well, containing all the system components so you don't have to download GNOME, Xorg, etc. (The current one is based on the Debian netinst CD.) If it doesn't fit on a DVD I'll make a netinst version available as well.
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby codepilot on Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:43 pm

maybeway36 wrote:A final release won't come until after Mint 6 itself is released; I don't want to steal their thunder. :)
I hope to have a full install CD/DVD available then as well, containing all the system components so you don't have to download GNOME, Xorg, etc. (The current one is based on the Debian netinst CD.) If it doesn't fit on a DVD I'll make a netinst version available as well.


Do you mean "Official Release" with final release?
That sounds great! Will it be listed in the Mint download section then as well?

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Re: Mint Debian

Postby exploder on Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:33 pm

maybeway36 , looking forward to the release! I like the idea of running something Ubuntu development hasn't screwed up. :mrgreen:
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby rooz on Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:15 pm

does the Debian version also has a software portal?
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby Katzedecimal on Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:48 pm

As it is one person's experiment rather than a full Community Edition, probably not. Will it? - who knows?
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby rooz on Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:22 pm

Katzedecimal wrote:As it is one person's experiment rather than a full Community Edition, probably not. Will it? - who knows?

Ok, and do other 'community based' Linux Mint distros have a portal?
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby Husse on Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:28 pm

do other 'community based' Linux Mint distros have a portal?

No but they are all Ubuntu-based :)
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby rooz on Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:31 am

Is the Debian version mainly based on Debian stable or testing?
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Re: Mint Debian REPORT

Postby npap on Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:16 pm

Hello everybody,
I have installed and I am running Mint Debian for three days now. It's working very well except for some minor bugs.
Good work! I hope this will be the beginning of an official project.

Here are some observations:

_ Installation to disk takes a little over 45 minutes, since most of the packages are downloaded through the Internet.
_ The text installer ( like Ubuntu Alternate CD ), works well if one is careful and follows instructions at every step.
_ The mint tools work.
Mintinstall is great.
Mintmenu is OK and the uninstall feature works well.
Add-remove Applications works well.
MintUpdate: the icon on the panel doesn't work ( But MintUpdate works from the Control Panel )

General bugs:
_ Right clicking on the Time and Date on the panel doesn't give you a choice of different times except UTC.
_ Some packages installed by Synaptic (Gparted for example) won't launch in the main menu but they work in the Debian menu:
Example: System>Administration>Partition editor
_ After logging in, my screen goes dark and freezes (it may be just a bug in my system). It works after a restart.

That's all for the time being.
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Re: Mint Debian REPORT

Postby Rob Brill on Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:36 am

npap wrote:Hello everybody,
I have installed and I am running Mint Debian for three days now. It's working very well except for some minor bugs.
Good work! I hope this will be the beginning of an official project.

Here are some observations:

_ Installation to disk takes a little over 45 minutes, since most of the packages are downloaded through the Internet.
_ The text installer ( like Ubuntu Alternate CD ), works well if one is careful and follows instructions at every step.
_ The mint tools work.
Mintinstall is great.
Mintmenu is OK and the uninstall feature works well.
Add-remove Applications works well.
MintUpdate: the icon on the panel doesn't work ( But MintUpdate works from the Control Panel )

General bugs:
_ Right clicking on the Time and Date on the panel doesn't give you a choice of different times except UTC.
_ Some packages installed by Synaptic (Gparted for example) won't launch in the main menu but they work in the Debian menu:
Example: System>Administration>Partition editor
_ After logging in, my screen goes dark and freezes (it may be just a bug in my system). It works after a restart.

That's all for the time being.
Cheers
npap

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Many Thanks npap!

A nice information report

Now i am curious about this pre-beta release. Can you please provide us more details such as:

sources.list - repositories - Stable or testing?
sources.list - repositories - multimidia - Key solution - is it ok?
repository location

Post sources.list here in the forum if it is possible

apt-get update - is it ok?
apt-get upgrade - is it ok?
Synaptic reload - is it ok

addtional information:
Desktop wallpaper - a small screenshot
Logo?
Distro - Complete Name
Desktop Environment - Gnome - Kde - both ?

Thanks in advance

Roberto :wink:
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Re: Mint Debian REPORT

Postby npap on Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:51 pm

SORRY FOLKS, DISASTER!

I downloaded some updates suggested by MintUpdate; 424 ( ?? ) packages marked as level 3 Mint updates.
After that, Synaptic warned me that the Gnome-panel had a problem. I found out that the Gnome applets were missing from
the Debian menu.

Restarting my PC, the file system check failed. I was asked to run FSCK manually, which I did.
DISASTER! I lost Grub and now I can't boot my Debian partition. :( :( :evil:
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Re: Mint Debian

Postby rivenought on Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:43 pm

npap,

Sorry to hear you have had a major meltdown. Since I am trying to run this Mint+Debian in its original configuration for testing purposes, I have not updated anything. Now I know to keep an eye out for some unusual behavior. Well, this is all highly experimental, so we expect some excitement every now and then, but yours was a bit too exciting. Hopefully, you can get everything sorted back out. Keep us updated. Good luck.
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