Mint Debian

[npap]

Ok. Thank you rivenought.
No major disaster, just had to re-install the system, and everything was safe in my /home folder. Watch out for unnecessary updates.
This time I installed the version without OpenOffice; the second choice, I think, on the CD.
The sources list is quite different

@Rob Brill
Well strange! Below is the sources list of the installation just before crashing. Now, in my second installation the sources list
is different as you can see in the other list following this one.
It is also updated.

## -----------------------
## LINUX MINT REPOSITORIES
## -----------------------

## +++ Linux Mint 6 Felicia (stable) +++
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ felicia main upstream import

## +++ Backports (not as stable) +++
# deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ felicia backport

## +++ Community (not as stable) +++
# deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ felicia community

## +++ Romeo (unstable) +++
# deb http://packages.linuxmint.com felicia romeo

## +++ Source Repositories +++
# deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com/ felicia main upstream import
# deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com/ felicia community
# deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com/ felicia backport
# deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com/ felicia romeo

## -------------------
## UBUNTU REPOSITORIES
## -------------------

## +++ Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid (stable) +++
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-security main restricted universe multiverse

## +++ Backports & Proposed (not as stable) +++
# deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports main restricted universe multiverse
# deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-proposed main restricted universe multiverse

## +++ Source Repositories +++
# deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted universe multiverse
# deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates main restricted universe multiverse
# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-security main restricted universe multiverse
# deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports main restricted universe multiverse
# deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-proposed main restricted universe multiverse

## ------------------
## OTHER REPOSITORIES
## ------------------

## +++ Canonical (stable) +++
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ intrepid partner

## +++ Medibuntu (stable) +++
deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ intrepid free non-free



PRESENT SOURCES LIST

#
# deb cdrom:[Mint Debian 6 GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Rev0 CD-Ver i386 20081209]/ lenny main

#deb cdrom:[Mint Debian 6 GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Rev0 CD-Ver i386 20081209]/ lenny main

deb http://ftp.gr.debian.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.gr.debian.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib
## Debian Multimedia

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main
deb-src http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main

## Linux Mint
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com felicia main
deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com felicia main

deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free


I hope this will help. I have posted screen shots and other comments in other posts in this forum.
Cheers
npap

[rivenought]

npap,

My sources list matches your second one. I installed from the DVD. I never used the CD. I just wanted to share that with you. I can see where the first sources list could bork a few things. I am glad you are back up and running. This is fun, eh?

[npap]

npap,

My sources list matches your second one. I installed from the DVD. I never used the CD. I just wanted to share that with you. I can see where the first sources list could bork a few things. I am glad you are back up and running. This is fun, eh?

Thanks Rivenough,
Thanks for your feedback.
Yes , everything seems to be running better now. It's really amazing. I hope this will be an official CE soon.
Cheers

[rivenought]

npap,

While it was on my mind, I decided to try mintUpdate on my Mint+Debian. There were only 63 Level 3 updates. I figured it was worth a shot. Twenty minutes later, I booted back up to a stable system. No excitement for me, fortunately. I agree that maybeway36 has done an excellent job on getting this put together. His work could really be a contender for a Community Edition.

So, for those just tuning in, it looks like the DVD might be the better choice from which to install. Does anyone else have any feedback in this regard? I can only speak and verify from my experience, but would like to hear from others.

[Katzedecimal]

I only tried the DVD install; I've got it on drive 2 of my playbox. I haven't done any updates with it yet, though, but will have to go scrounging for MintBackup (doesn't seem to be on this install) and see if I can get that going. I'm putzing with "Mint Debian" on and off but I must say, I like the 'feel' of it.

[npap]

Well, it looks like a bad day for me. My CD installation is acting up again.
I turned off my PC about a couple of hours ago and when I got back and booted it, my resolution had reverted to 800x600.
And when I reset it to 1024x768 for my 17" monitor, my PC went berserk. It lost its horizontal sync, moving sideways
fast. I tried other repeat rates but no luck.
Now the screen goes black (not blank) after I log in and it freezes there. This was a bug in my former installation too.

Well, tomorrow is another day.
Good night.
npap

[Rob Brill]

Well fellows npap, rivenought, other...

The second (sources list posted) seems to be ok.
Mint (packages) + Debian Testing-Lenny (packages)
+ multimidia.

Who is gonna be in charge of this MintDebian CE Project?

maybyway36 has changed direction. We wants a Linux Distribution
of his own - Glacix - new wallpaper - new logo, etc...

He is gone. He went to join Mepis community and i think the Mint Debian
CE for him is over.

That idea of creating Glacix, spoilt the party. The guy has his own ambitions.

[Fred]

Rob Brill,

Well, he is very young. Don't hold anything against him. He worked very hard on this. As most of us did at his age, he just tends to get ahead of himself from time to time. This too will pass.

Fred

[Rob Brill]

Rob Brill,

Well, he is very young. Don't hold anything against him. He worked very hard on this. As most of us did at his age, he just tends to get ahead of himself from time to time. This too will pass.

Fred

-------------------------------------------------------------------
Fred, you are a Gentleman

I don't know if i am older than him and of course, i have nothing against him - only love

I wished he could still be with us sharing his work as a member of the Mint community.

By the way, news on Distrowatch: Linux Mint The star distribution of 2008

http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue ... 05#feature

Man, i am very happy!

Cheers
Roberto

[npap]

Well fellows npap, rivenought, other...

Who is gonna be in charge of this MintDebian CE Project?

maybyway36 has changed direction. We wants a Linux Distribution
of his own - Glacix - new wallpaper - new logo, etc...

He is gone. He went to join Mepis community and i think the Mint Debian
CE for him is over.

That idea of creating Glacix, spoilt the party. The guy has his own ambitions.

Hello everybody,
I'm back again. Did some fiddling around with this fickle installation of mine. No major problems, but what happened to the panel Mintupdate applet???
As to who is going to be in charge of this CE project, aren't we the community, Robert?
This is getting to be a real community endeavor.
All reports here may help towards ironing out the kinks for whomever is going to finally take charge.

Mabreway36 has to be congratulated for the great job he has done so far, anyway.
Two cheers for the young fellow!

[cmost]

I just skimmed the past few posts since the "disaster" but from the sources.list you've posted it's clear to me that you're mixing Debian and Ubuntu repositories. You can't do this guys! Linux Mint is compatible with Ubuntu Linux; Mint Debian is compatible (is) Debian Testing (a.k.a. Lenny.) Mixing packages from the two repositories is going to bring disaster folks. Debian is Debian and Ubuntu is Ubuntu and ne'er shall the two meet! Here's how the sources list should look to keep you out of trouble:

------------------- /etc/apt/sources.list -------------------------------
## Debian Repositories ###
## Testing
deb http://ftp.gb.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.gb.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free

## Unstable
#deb http://ftp.gb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://ftp.gb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
#deb http://security.debian.org/ unstable/updates main contrib non-free

## Experimental
#deb http://ftp.gb.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://ftp.gb.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free
#deb http://security.debian.org/ experimental/updates main contrib non-free

## Multimedia (if needed)
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main

## Linux Mint - only Mint tools are acceptable.
## +++ Romeo (unstable) +++
# deb http://packages.linuxmint.com felicia romeo


Hope this helps.

[Fred]

cmost is correct. The Debian repos and Ubuntu repos are/may not be binary compatible. It will only be a coincidence if binary compatibility is maintained between the two repos for a given program.

Fred

[npap]

I just skimmed the past few posts since the "disaster" but from the sources.list you've posted it's clear to me that you're mixing Debian and Ubuntu repositories. You can't do this guys! Linux Mint is compatible with Ubuntu Linux; Mint Debian is compatible (is) Debian Testing (a.k.a. Lenny.) Mixing packages from the two repositories is going to bring disaster folks. Debian is Debian and Ubuntu is Ubuntu and ne'er shall the two meet! Here's how the sources list should look to keep you out of trouble:

------------------- /etc/apt/sources.list -------------------------------
## Debian Repositories ###
## Testing
deb http://ftp.gb.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.gb.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free

## Unstable
#deb http://ftp.gb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://ftp.gb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
#deb http://security.debian.org/ unstable/updates main contrib non-free

## Experimental
#deb http://ftp.gb.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://ftp.gb.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free
#deb http://security.debian.org/ experimental/updates main contrib non-free

## Multimedia (if needed)
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main

## Linux Mint - only Mint tools are acceptable.
## +++ Romeo (unstable) +++
# deb http://packages.linuxmint.com felicia romeo


Hope this helps.

Thanks cmost,
Let me repeat that the first sources list was from the installation that crashed.
The second one is the list that i got from my new CD installation.
I know the first one must be wrong. And I understand that Fred's information makes sense.
Tell me please, are you suggesting that I change my present list to the one you have posted above? I'm willing to experiment with any suggestions.
Thank you all for your attention.
Cheers
npap

[Rob Brill]

Hi npap

I downloaded and installed MintDebian CE 6 Felicia from here: CD SIZED ISO

Re: Mint Debian 6 Release

Postby maybeway36 on Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:38 pm
I uploaded the CD to FileFront:
http://files.filefront.com/MintDebian6+ ... einfo.html
MD5:

Code: Select all
43137da86317063efda3986362c30baf MintDebian6-Rev0-CD.iso
------------------------------------------
Well,

The initial screen before booting the cd - mint logo (left) - debian logo (right)

This an official release and is not made nor supported by either Linux Mint
or Debian Projects.

I installed it in a text mode - first option

Have to accept java ( warning if the installation will stop) - I accepted it of course
Have installed it 32bit on 2 computers x64amd and 32bit intel

There are 5 options to install it.

1- text mode- everything plus OpenOffice and Java
2- text mode- without Open Office and Java
3 - graphical mode - without OpenOffice and Java ( i tested this and no apps installed) (only tools)
4- text lite - a few apllications installed by default (no apps) - only tools. synaptic - mintInstall
5- lite graphical - a few applications installed by default (no apps) - only tools

Installing with option 1 text-mode - keys - tab-enter-arrows-space

Everthing is working - The guy maybeaway36 is a very talented guy.

flash - codecs -java - all installed by default

Ice Weasel and Ice Dove - A Debian Spirit.

mintUpdate works - it launches if you first lauch it through the menu
mintinstall - works - but do not try to to isntall Firefox and Thunderbird
This can be generate some conflicts and broken packages,
Try manually (tar.gz) in another place must work
Remember the apps installed are from Debian testing repos.
Only install .mint packages .deb (mintInstall) if you don't have them installed yet
Or remove them before installing through mintInstall (here i think maybe it's possible without removing)

The desktop at first sight is the same as the Main Edition - Gnome but is not Ubuntu based
It's Debian testing

Sources list

Linux MintDebian CE 6 Felicia -


sources list

#
# deb cdrom:[Mint Debian 6 GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Rev0 CD-Ver i386 20081209]/ lenny main

#deb cdrom:[Mint Debian 6 GNU/Linux testing _Lenny_ - Rev0 CD-Ver i386 20081209]/ lenny main

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib
## Debian Multimedia

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main
deb-src http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main

## Linux Mint
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com felicia main
deb-src http://packages.linuxmint.com felicia main

deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free

This Edition is not for noobs. partitions are recocnized but not mounted
and a few tweaks manually like Debian. - disk manager mounts partitions
I think no support for wireless - wrong - there is Add/Remove applications
for video cards - via K8-k9 Chrome- drivers not loaded correctly
People that come from Windows should not try this Edition.

The next release according maybeway36 - 6.1 - Glacix - the new name

As for the CD link: here's the file description page: http://files.filefront.com/MintDebian6+ ... einfo.html
FileFront doesn't allow hotlinking, which is really lame, but oh well. I'd recommend people download the CD instead of the DVD - the DVD contains the live system and installer seperately and is sort of a waste of space.
I'll release Glacix 6.1 once I get the data back off the hard drive from my crashed computer, and then I'll try to see if I can make a CD based on pyfll and the Mepis or Sidux installer (it'll be hard, since I can't find much about pyfll online.)

Me, personally, already run Debian Etch 4.0r6 and i use my fingers for setting up a lot of
things manually - I run Mint Gnome/Kde Ce and ahead XFCE even CE - because i can
trust them - reliable and stable, for every day use (easy to use right out of box). The time has told me that.

Clem, will think about a Debian Project into the future,
It's not the right time for Linux Mint mantain a MintDebian CE (my opinion)

Sorry i am tired and sorry again for for my bad Enghish
I will edit the post to correct englhish errors tomorrow.

MAYBEWAY36 - YOU ARE A VERY TALENTED GUY.
THANKS A LOT AND BE HAPPY WITH you Glacix 6,1 ( i wish you success)
Post edited...

Cheers
Roberto

[npap]

Hello Roberto,
Muy bien! Now we both have the same type of installation. This may help, I hope, those fellows who want to try installing and testing it.
It is working fairly well, except that I have this problem with log-in and the unstable screen resolution settings.
It may just be a peculiar problem only in my PC ( graphics card ). It goes to 800x600 at boot-up and have to reset it to 1024x768 every time.
All in all, this is a good job that mabeway36 has done. I hope that somebody will take over and make this an official thing.
Right now, I feel as if I am contributing to piracy.

I tried replacing the sources list as suggested by Cmost. Everything worked OK, but I got a Synaptic that looked different and contained very few packages marked as Debian.
I guess the problem comes up when downloading automatic updates.

Don't apologize for your English. It's much better than you think.

Thanks for your feedback.
Cheers, npap

[maybeway36]

I would like to make this an official edition. A big benefit, of course, would be having a repository and not having to use Filefront for the ISOs. Also, it would help people know about it who would like it, and it would get me more feedback so I could improve it further.
A little late Christmas present:
http://files.filefront.com/mintmenu+debian+421+2+aldeb/;12944225;/fileinfo.html (mintmenu-debian)
The latest version of the mintmenu-debian package. It replaces mintmenu and is designed to work on any Debian, not just Glacix. You probably don't want it for Mint Debian 6, though, because it removes Mint branding and also conflicts with the mint-debian metapackage.

[Husse]

this

Glacix or Mint debian?
I know exploder is "watching over you" so he could test it for you (I hope - he has some computer problems)

[npap]

Hi there,

I just wanted to let you know that I'm passively looking into this as well. My biggest challenges for a nice Debian CE are:

- to find/develop an installer for the liveCD. (It would help me if you could find one or if you could find how to install manually so I could develop a GUI around it).
- to adapt mintUpdate to the rolling nature of Debian (from safety levels to safe jumps/snapshots basically)

Everything else is pretty easy.

I'm also planning to look at what's their in the Debian derived realm of distributions. Debian CE Alpha (based on Debian Testing) is a good starting point but if another Debian base can provide us with a live session and a decent installer out of the box we need to consider it as well.

I've seen what you've done with the artwork, and how people are gathering to push this CE forward.. it's really good. I'm sorry there isn't more focus on this right now, but every bits help so keep up the great work. The installer in particular is the biggest challenge and the main hurdle to get this CE into BETA phase.

Clem.

Just a reminder.
So we do have Clem's blessing here
Good work. Cheers to the Mint team and the community.

[exploder]

I know exploder is "watching over you" so he could test it for you (I hope - he has some computer problems)

I have most of the problems sorted out. Where there is a will there is a way!

I would like to make this an official edition. A big benefit, of course, would be having a repository and not having to use Filefront for the ISOs. Also, it would help people know about it who would like it, and it would get me more feedback so I could improve it further.

I agree. Making this a Mint CE would be very beneficial to everyone. You and Clem can decide how you will handle this edition and I will test it. I need to know what guidelines Clem wants specifically for this because of the differences between this and using a Ubuntu base.Mainly I need to know about the Live CD aspect, most of the other basics are already in place.

[Katzedecimal]

<.< ....if we do, can we get MintBackup in it so I can realllly give it a good play-with? I have two drives on the playbox and sda has been host to several distros over the past month, while sdb..... is still hosting "Mint" Glacix