mintUpdate presenting with high risk updates as level 3

[psych1610]

Hey everyone, mintUpdate wants to install what I think are some pretty high risk updates as part of level 3 updates. Now I caught these and didn't allow them, but from what I've seen they are usually levels 4 and 5.

Stuff like xserver-xorg-xxx, linux headers, linux image, etc all used to be 4 and 5 I thought and I wouldn't trust it to be installed without breaking something.

Any idea why these are ranked as 3 now? Or how to get them to go back to 4 and 5? Was something changed?

I should add mintUpdate is also ridiculously slow at this time. Took about 8 minutes just to display the updates I show below and is working on 4 or 5 to install cron

Here's a screenshot of what I mean:
http://www.bitesizepieces.com/up/1243901734.png
http://www.bitesizepieces.com/up/1243901907.png

[exploder]

Those were released by what would be considered a safe repository. Some have reported issues from the kernel update. Level 4 & 5 updates are updates from the proposed and backports repos. mintUpdate is working propely but it is good that you posted your question. I would not install the kernel updates if your system runs properly.

[psych1610]

Thanks Exploder. I don't think I will install any of the kernel/xorg ones.

Is there any way I can.. hide them I guess so that mintUpdate doesn't show them anymore?

I still want some level 3 updates since most that come through aren't like this.

[exploder]

You can use "Lock Version" in Synaptic. Select the package you want, open the Package menu and check Lock Version.

[solar1951]

Not wishing to hijack this thread but I have had a similar problem on Elyssa using mintupdate 3.2.2.
What I think happens is that when the mint repo is down or the connection is slow or times out then mintupdate may look at synaptic cache for those 4 and 5 level updates and displays them as level 3. If you refresh mintupdate and the repo is on line and you can connect then the "updates" disappear from level 3 and return to level 4 or 5.
Maybe this is not the case with the latest mintupdate and Gloria - will the latest mintupdate work with Elyssa ?

[emorrp1]

Well that certainly sounds like a bug, is it always reproduceable? Now just have to wait for some level 4/5 updates to test it.

[solar1951]

Well that certainly sounds like a bug, is it always reproduceable? Now just have to wait for some level 4/5 updates to test it.

Yes it is reproducable and its happening now as I cant connect to the mint repos and I have 23 updates showing as level 3 which when operating "normally" would be 4 or 5 - such as kernel and xorg updates
Have attached screenshot

[emorrp1]

The repos are back up now, have they been reverted to level 4/5 updates now?

EDIT: the xserver-xorg package is in hardy-updates which should indeed be at most level 4 IIRC. Can you just confirm that this is not a problem when the mint repos are up?

[solar1951]

The repos are back up now, have they been reverted to level 4/5 updates now?

Yes they do, see screenshot.
Weird huh!

[emorrp1]

thanks solar1951, I've filed a bug report viewtopic.php?f=165&t=28015 I deduced you were using elyssa from the versions you provided, if this is wrong, or if it also affects later releases, let me know.

[solar1951]

thanks solar1951, I've filed a bug report viewtopic.php?f=165&t=28015 I deduced you were using elyssa from the versions you provided, if this is wrong, or if it also affects later releases, let me know.

As I said in my first post I am using Elyssa and mintupdate 3.2.2

Do you know if I can update mintupdate to a later issue and continue to use Elyssa ? Or is that mixing repos ? Thanks for your time today !

[Mintman]

I posted elsewhere viewtopic.php?f=34&t=27334 that recent level 3 updates broke both my systems.

I understand it a bit more from here, but my solution is not to install any level 3, only level 1 and 2. There were so many level 3 updates the other day and I don't have the time, will or knowledge to know which is good or bad, so I hope my approach will work.

I assume, incidentally, that Ubuntu, and any other Ubuntu-based OS users will also have been knocked over by this, so it doesn't speak well for these users, either.

This is just the sort of thing that trips up the Linux casual user, like me. I still have to trust all my important files to my Windows machine. My Linux machines are second, mobile work platforms only for the time being, but I really like Mint 7 and have successfully installed various other programmes without system falure - Skype OSS, VLC, on the both machines, plus eee-control on my EEE PC 701.

[volatino]

I had this problem on Felicia, too.
That sonded strange to me, but I was confident in mintupdate....and I installed everything...result, the system is gone....
I think this is a serious bug, we should make a fixed post to inform about this issue the forum users.

[volatino]

ah, I forgot, zero problems on Elyssa on my laptop, no "wrong" updates.