dlkreations wrote:truckerjay wrote:Nice article. I'm new to linux and want to learn how to make it dance. On the net where is the best place to learn? I have mint7 but plan to dual boot a no frills basic distro to work on to learn.
Why dual boot when you can run any distribution you desire in Virtualbox? That way if you by chance bork your virtual machine, you don't take the whole computer down with it.
MistressNomad wrote:*sigh* While the article is well-written, and does strike on many valid points, I have to ultimately disagree. What I hear when I read that is the same thing I've always heard from well-meaning Linux geeks who are, ultimately, missing the point.
I'm in the process of downloading Mint as we speak. I'm currently an XP user because I refuse to move to the insanity that is Vista, and Ubuntu disappointed me beyond belief.
Not because it wasn't Windsuck. The reason I tried it was because I didn't want it to be. I don't mind learning some new hotkeys. It's not that.
Not because I'm totally computer illiterate. I'm not. If I have to, I can go into the command line and get my **** done. I'd prefer not to, but I can. It's not that.
The reason I didn't like Ubuntu was because the package SAID "pre-assembled toy car" and when I opened it, not only was it not fully pre-assembled, but some of the pieces didn't even fit, and some of them were missing all together.
For example, what precisely is the point of a packaged Java install when it fails to work (all 6 versions, by the way) and you have to go into the command line anyway? Just for looks?
I have dozens such examples with my 4 months with Ubuntu. Yes. Four months. I gave it the benefit of the doubt. I gave it a chance. But ultimately, I don't want to play with a half-assembled car. Even if it's free.
That, for me anyway, was the issue. If Linux wants to be for geeks, by geeks, that's cool. But if that's how it's going to be, don't lie to me and tell me it's user friendly (user friendly being defined as logical and simple, not necessarily familiar). Either be for geeks and be honest about it, or give me something that actually IS user friendly.
However! I have heard the Mint has made serious progress on this issue, and really, Ubuntu was not that far away from being worth it. There are probably only 3 or 4 things that needed to happen for Ubuntu to be totally useable for the "average user," and from what I've read Mint hits most them.
So, I'm hoping this is going to be The One. Because as we speak, I'm on a friend's Vista machine, and it's making me want to dig my eyes out of my head with rusty spoons. And once 7 comes out, I'm not going to have much of a choice. I was done with Windows years ago. Hopefully this will be the alternative I've been looking for.
MistressNomad wrote:That was exactly it. It felt half-finished. I'm sure geeks must love that to pieces, but for someone who just wants to get her **** done, that is a nightmare.
Mistress Nomad wrote:...It's that I was told Ubunutu was user friendly, and I found out that it was not. And when I said something about it, I got attacked.
I don't anticipate Mint to be entirely easy if only because I have a touch screen to grapple with. But I simply can't go on with Windows. And I am really hoping Mint will deliver on its promise where Ubuntu failed, and that the community here will be kinder than the community there.
MistressNomad wrote:I, unlike most, have actually installed Windows, and I know for a fact it doesn't really "just work." But once you get through the installation part, most of it actually does just work. That's what I'm aiming for.
I notice that a lot of people seem to want to maintain the windows experience; I think that was even their logo/advertisement for XP (Xperience): the flying desk across the desert.MistressNomad wrote:Ubuntu was not far off the mark. It had a couple of major failings, but if those were fixed, it would be perfect. I'm hoping that's what Mint has done. Because I am REALLY tired of dealing with Windows. We shall see...
and the more n00b friendly
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