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Kubuntu--Fat Boy...

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Love Mint7, getting used to Mint 8. I have GRUB2 down pat and skinned it plus got rid of Fresh in GDM. So I got bored and decided to try Karmic. Mint 8 is using an average of 256Mb of RAM on boot up before starting any apps. Ubuntu is running a little heavier at ~500Mb. Kubuntu shocked the crap out of me.... on a clean install, after boot, the system monitor shows 1.2Gb of RAM used :shock: ... I'm not a GNOME or KDE fanboy, I just want what works... Any KDE users out there see this high memory use with Mint 7 KDE CE? I was thinking of trying the 8 KDE CE, but if it follows in fat boy's steps, I don't know.
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Steely

Re: Kubuntu--Fat Boy...

Post by Steely »

Running mint 7 kde with 4.3.2 and it uses about 240 Mb of ram before starting any apps. Make sure you aren't including cached in your actual ram usage.
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Post by vrkalak »

We have always known that Gnome and KDE are heavier than Xfce/Openbox and the other light-weight DE/WM . . . but, 1.2 Gigs is a little on the 'obese' side.

I was, over this past weekend checking out the new MS Windows-7 on my nephews laptop. I don't have any MS OS' on my computers.
I like the new Cairo Dock kinda panel they have. MS is finally trying to catch up with Linux and Mac.
It is pretty and fast and very 'bloated' When I opened the System Monitor in Windows-7, I was surprised to see that his laptop was using, on average, 2 Gb of RAM, at any given moment.

Talk about, a 'fat boy'!!

I realize that Gnome and KDE, are a bit on the heavy side and are currently the popular desktops to have in Linux.
But the newer computers (less than 2 years old) have sufficient RAM and Processor power to handle them, with no problems.
richyrich

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I've just installed Kubuntu 9.10 on a new machine, and I'm shocked at what my SM shows. With Konqueror running.
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Something to keep in mind, the more RAM you have the more the system will use. My Kubuntu install uses about 160 MB of RAM at startup and I have 3 GB of RAM. Linux is not like Windows and will release memory to things that need it, so as long as my system is not using a ridiculous amount of memory I am not too concerned. Updating the system can make a big difference too because memory leaks in underlying processes can account for higher memory use and updates will generally fix these types of problems.
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Two things make sense here. Memory leaks and lots of RAM on the computer. I upgraded KDE to 4.3.4 through the ppa. Also, the computer I am testing with has 4Gb RAM, more RAM=more memory used. After all is said and done, I am looking at a consistent 750Mb at boot. Still a lot bigger than GNOME, but I think that is to be expected. I'm going to try the CE when it comes out, but I don't think I can use it daily. I've used GNOME so long that KDE feels kind of awkward and bulky. Then again, the Mintified version may be more nimble.
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richyrich's graph is of a machine with 2gb ram. Likely: 32bit Kubuntu.
XidCat's report is of a machine with 4gb ram. Likely: 64bit Kubuntu.

That makes a huge difference right there.
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AK Dave, I agree, there are a lot of variables. I have seen people post that they are running Kubuntu with 512 MB of RAM, so that tells me that memory management is pretty good over all.
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AKDave--

32 bit. Box came with 2Gb, I upgraded it to 4. It is true though, 64 bit always uses at least double the memory. I have scrubbed the run levels and removed a lot of unnecessary stuff from starting at boot. I am down to 450Mb, lighter than a stock Ubuntu install. To continue the experiment, I am going to start removing RAM from the box and see how that affects memory use.
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I think there is a problem here.
I`m dual booting Mint 8 & Kubuntu 9.10.
They were both using after boot 6.5% and 9.5% of my 3 gig memory respectively.
Now it seems to have shot up to 15.5% and 20%.
Strangely though when i check my System Monitor, the processes usage dosent add up to what it tells me its using.
Could be a memory leak, but its strange its only just started happening and on both OSs.
Maybe a recent update has caused this and it will be put right soon?
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