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Re: Mint 8 Helena hangs (total freeze)

Postby LarryJW on Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:55 am

Mine still shows 2.6.31.14. As long as I don't watch flash videos it will be a while before it freezes. Not sure if flash ads have similar effect.
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Re: Mint 8 Helena hangs (total freeze)

Postby hinto on Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:43 am

btw...
4 days and no hangs after I added a dedicated NVIDIA card to replace (surplant) the integrated 9100 NVIDIA.
My KVM even works like a charm. Kernel? NVIDIA chip? Integrated vs. Dedicated? I don't know.
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Re: Mint 8 Helena hangs (total freeze)

Postby trefall on Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:12 pm

Folks,
Not sure if it's related, but Thunderbird has frozen up on me. I'm trying to format it for Hotmail and it just froze. The whole system works except TB which is non-responsive. Any ideas are appreciated. Thanks. Is there anything like ctl-alt-del that will allow me to shut down TB w/o restarting the system?
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Re: Mint 8 Helena hangs (total freeze)

Postby LarryJW on Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:58 pm

Gnome comes with Control Alt Backspace to kill misbehaving apps but in Mint it's disabled by default. There's a thread somewhere on how to enable it but I don't know how off the top of my head.
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Re: Mint 8 Helena hangs (total freeze)

Postby trefall on Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:04 pm

Thanks much Larry.
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Re: Mint 8 Helena hangs (total freeze)

Postby hinto on Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:04 pm

LarryJW wrote:Gnome comes with Control Alt Backspace to kill misbehaving apps but in Mint it's disabled by default. There's a thread somewhere on how to enable it but I don't know how off the top of my head.

When X crashes... This won't work.
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Re: Mint 8 Helena hangs (total freeze)

Postby pokemoncatdog on Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:37 pm

MY pc lock up after unknown time with the old kernel and the new kernel 2.6.32-020632 did not help, this was the only thing that worked for me.

Freeze Fix: add "acpi=off" to kernel line of "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" IF you get "system hail" at shut down like I did. What are you to do?
System halt fix: add "apm power_off=1" to "sudo gedit /etc/modules". Put on its own line.

Now save and reboot, worked for me, no freezing and PC shuts down all the way.

IF you need to make you grub change permanent, as in survive upgrade read here and go to part 2.2: http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2007/05/ ... eters.html
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Re: Mint 8 Helena hangs (total freeze)

Postby hinto on Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:24 pm

Two weeks, no hangs...
My setup was the HP Pavilion, running Linux Mint 8 hooked up to a kvm switch which was connected to an XP box.
I had tried other grub settings, but nothing worked until I got a dedicated card.

Interestingly enough, when running XP in a VM in Mint then switching the kvm to the real XP box, the keyboard and mouse never came back. Again, this hasn't happened since I got the dedicated card.

HMMMM....
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Re: Mint 8 Helena hangs (total freeze)

Postby Arjuna on Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:25 am

Guys...Im new to Linux......
I updated the kernel...but the problem still exists!!!!!!
all of a sudden system hangs....

Pentium 4...2.4ghz...760mb ram.....
Ive turned of all the effects!!!!!!


Thanks...
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Re: Mint 8 Helena hangs (total freeze)

Postby hinto on Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:46 am

Is this a dedicated video card or integrated?
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Re: Mint 8 Helena hangs (total freeze)

Postby camjam on Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:53 pm

I am seeing the system hangs - mouse keeps working but that's it. The recovery process I need to use is very annoying.

I reboot and have to go to the "recovery" mode. Then after I go through that, I select to drop down to the root prompt. From the command line I just type "startx". Everything starts up just fine, but I get the default desktop that you get with the install. Once on the desktop I select menu->logout->restart. I'm then able to boot directly into Helena and my customized desktop comes up.

Any other process I've tried has resulted in the black screen with no response after the LM mint leaf logo during the boot up process. Not sure if anyone else's recovery process is more graceful.

I have an old Dell Dimension with an integrated video Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01).

I'm also running logitech wireless keyboard and Mouse.

Current kernel 2.6.31-17 will look into upgrading it in the near future.

Hoping to get this stable enough to get on the rest of the family's laptops.
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Re: Mint 8 Helena hangs (total freeze)

Postby hinto on Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:18 am

When I got a dedicated card, the hangs stopped happening.
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Re: Mint 8 Helena hangs (total freeze)

Postby blogger on Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:11 am

camjam wrote:I am seeing the system hangs - mouse keeps working but that's it. The recovery process I need to use is

I have an old Dell Dimension with an integrated video Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01).
Current kernel 2.6.31-17 will look into upgrading it in the near future.
Hoping to get this stable enough to get on the rest of the family's laptops.


Hello camjam,
I too have the same situation. I have the On-board graphics card, that is the 82845 G/GL.
Upgrading to kernel 2.6.32_ did not help.
This problem is also present in other Linux distributions that are based on Ubuntu 9.10

Well, I've given up!
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Re: Mint 8 Helena hangs (total freeze)

Postby LinuxRetard on Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:21 pm

I have only been using Linux for a few days but have tried about a dozen different distros with the same results. They all freeze on my computer, if you can get them installed, and flash video has problems. I have an Intel d845glva motherboard with 82845GL graphics, 1.7ghz celeron, and 1gig of ram. I have the newest bios for my motherboard. I have been doing clean installs and not dual booting. I have removed Compiz and turned a lot of stuff off but still no luck. At first, I thought it was the bios settings but I have tried every available combination and my computer still freezes at various times. Sometimes while surfing the net, sometimes as soon as the OS starts up. I thought my hardware might be too old (2002) so I tried Puppy Linux and Xubuntu but they also have issues on my system and don't play flash video very well.

Sometimes flash (Youtube) video works fine for about 45-60 seconds and then freezes until I move the mouse. Then the video runs really slow, then back to normal, then super slow motion. Hit full screen and be prepared to freeze for sure. I have changed the video driver and installed the different flash plug-ins but it still didn't help. I don't know if it is my hardware, bios settings, or Linux. Linux Mint seems pretty cool if I could fix the couple of issues I'm having, stop locking up and play flash video better.
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Re: Mint 8 Helena hangs (total freeze)

Postby hinto on Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:29 pm

Do you have an integrated video card? My freezes went away when I put a dedicated video card in.
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Re: Mint 8 Helena hangs (total freeze)

Postby Lilarcor on Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:04 pm

Hi everyone,

I would like to add my own story. I have LM 8 Helena installed.

Core 2 Duo, 3.33 Ghz
4 GB RAM
P5Q Deluxe Motherboard
GeForce GTX 260 (drivers version 185)

In my case, the freezes occur mostly when viewing videos or surfing with Firefox. Switching to Opera didn't do anything. I tried to remove wallpaper-tray from the Gnome panel, no changes. I have installed the kernel 2.6.32-02063203-generic, but no luck. At turned off Compiz and the freezes diminished greatly, but... my Linux experience is marred without it.

I also very recently installed Fluxbox on an old P3. No freeze what soever, although I haven't use it long enough.

I hope the info I gave can be of help.
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Re: Mint 8 Helena hangs (total freeze)

Postby hinto on Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:50 am

That is a stumper.... Have you tried the drivers off Nividia's site?
In my case I had a quad core and an integrated video chip. 1 problem was (I think) the cpufreq. Earlier Debian/Ubuntu kernels didn't co-operate to well with them. I also spent ~$40 to get a graphics card. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product

And my freezes went away.

I'm running an HP Pavilion a6720y.

I also had freezes on a Dell Optiplex 760 until I updated the kernel and added a card.

This was Ubunutu Mint 7/ and Ubunutu Jaunty.
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Re: Mint 8 Helena hangs (total freeze)

Postby Lilarcor on Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:54 pm

That is a stumper.... Have you tried the drivers off Nividia's site?
In my case I had a quad core and an integrated video chip. 1 problem was (I think) the cpufreq. Earlier Debian/Ubuntu kernels didn't co-operate to well with them. I also spent ~$40 to get a graphics card. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product

And my freezes went away.

I'm running an HP Pavilion a6720y.

I also had freezes on a Dell Optiplex 760 until I updated the kernel and added a card.

This was Ubunutu Mint 7/ and Ubunutu Jaunty.
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Hi hinto,

I did as you did. I stroll around the net for how to update the Nvidia drivers. I manage to made the install but it said my GCC compiler wasn't the same version as the install file. I wanted to cancel the thing, but I accidently press the wrong button and begun the installation :shock:. After recovering from my oh cr*p moment, it install perfectly well (at least I think it did). It still says version 185 on Hardware drivers, but on the profiler manager says version 193.53.

Crossing my fingers now!

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Re: Mint 8 Helena hangs (total freeze)

Postby hinto on Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:46 pm

oh cr*p moment


I had mine today when I blew away a vm...
Apparently I had a softlink to it from another computer (say, A), and my real vmdsk files were on B. (So A linked to B). I had tweaked my vm and I was going to copy it, so I was going to free up room on B and deleted it (the VM) which deleted the original;)

BTW... hope the drivers work out. It's too bad Linux get's a "bad name" when it's the harware manufacturers are late coming to the game...

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Re: Mint 8 Helena hangs (total freeze)

Postby Lilarcor on Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:24 pm

BTW... hope the drivers work out. It's too bad Linux get's a "bad name" when it's the harware manufacturers are late coming to the game...

-Hinto

I've been through the whole evening and so far, everything is ok. :D
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