[SOLVED] Flathub packages in linux mint.

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[SOLVED] Flathub packages in linux mint.

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Hi friends. :)
I love stability, I really love deb packages for their convenience, correctness and accuracy. It is my opinion. :) The question concerns flathub packages, namely, will LM switch to flathub in the future??
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how will the crush actively integrate these packages into the LM system??
the crush? I don't understand what you mean or are asking?
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Re: Flathub packages in linux mint.

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motoryzen wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:51 am
how will the crush actively integrate these packages into the LM system??
the crush? I don't understand what you mean or are asking?
:) The question is about the flathub packages, namely will LM switch to flathub in the future and only use flathub?? :) :D
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sip wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:54 am :) The question is about the flathub packages, namely will LM switch to flathub in the future and only use flathub?? :) :D
Unless debian do it first then i believe Mint will still have the option to use debian repo. However Ubuntu is trying next LTS release cycle to have an all snap edition, time will tell if all Ubuntu flavors will be forced to snap, if that happen then i believe Mint will rely heavily on flathub as the packages there are always up to date and majority are directly maintained by their respective devs.
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Midnight True wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:54 am
sip wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:54 am :) The question is about the flathub packages, namely will LM switch to flathub in the future and only use flathub?? :) :D
Unless debian do it first then i believe Mint will still have the option to use debian repo. However Ubuntu is trying next LTS release cycle to have an all snap edition, time will tell if all Ubuntu flavors will be forced to snap, if that happen then i believe Mint will rely heavily on flathub as the packages there are always up to date and majority are directly maintained by their respective devs.
Hello Midnight True. :) Regarding Debian, there are many doubts that they will switch to flathub. This is how Ubuntu will switch to flathub, I agree 100%. I'm not a fan of flathub packages. The development prospects of my beloved Mint keep me asking more questions like this about tomorrow!! My main system on all my computers is 50% Mint and 50% Debian. The latter is more predictable to me. This is my opinion, although I may be wrong.
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sip wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:29 am ... I love stability, I really love deb packages for their convenience, correctness and accuracy....
Interestingly, many .deb packages can decrease stability.
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sip wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:19 am This is how Ubuntu will switch to flathub, I agree 100%.
I am sorry but i am confused. Ubuntu is going full snap and not using flatpak (and by extension flathub).

This is Mint's dilemma, if Ubuntu is hard pressing Snap they will definitely tweak the kernel to go well with snap. On the other hand Mint as based on Ubuntu but do not like snap, will weed out the aforementioned tweak to prevent snap. This will most likely result to an unstable system.
Does for me the exact question is will Mint Ubuntu survive or be replaced with LMDE? but on both case there is certain, flatpak and thus flathub will be an important source of acquiring applications and i believe the better successor for PPA.
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Midnight True wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:28 am
sip wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:19 am This is how Ubuntu will switch to flathub, I agree 100%.
Does for me the exact question is will Mint Ubuntu survive or be replaced with LMDE? but on both case there is certain, flatpak and thus flathub will be an important source of acquiring applications and i believe the better successor for PPA.
I agree with you!
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will LM switch to flathub in the future??
What do you mean by "switch"?

Flathub only concerns (GUI) applications, not the kernel, library packages, basic tools and utilities, etc. No Linux system can exist without "normal" (non-Flathub) packages.

By "switch" do you mean "switch from Deb packages to Flathub packages for all the Flathub packages, where it's possible to switch to the Flathub version" or something like that?

Because most packages do not have a Flathub version. There are thousands of packages without a Flatpak version.

Also, switching a large number of packages from Deb to Flatpak would be a massive amount of work for the Mint team.

Consider the apps that Mint comes with. They certainly cannot put those Flatpaks into their ISO, the size would be massive.

Anyway I don't really understand the question... :lol:
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spamegg wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:42 am
will LM switch to flathub in the future??
What do you mean by "switch"?

Flathub only concerns (GUI) applications, not the kernel, library packages, basic tools and utilities, etc. No Linux system can exist without "normal" (non-Flathub) packages.

By "switch" do you mean "switch from Deb packages to Flathub packages for all the Flathub packages, where it's possible to switch to the Flathub version" or something like that?

Because most packages do not have a Flathub version. There are thousands of packages without a Flatpak version.

Also, switching a large number of packages from Deb to Flatpak would be a massive amount of work for the Mint team.

Consider the apps that Mint comes with. They certainly cannot put those Flatpaks into their ISO, the size would be massive.

Anyway I don't really understand the question... :lol:
It's good that you expressed your opinion on a question you did not understand!!!
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Re: Flathub packages in linux mint.

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sip wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:54 am
spamegg wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:42 am
will LM switch to flathub in the future??
What do you mean by "switch"?

Flathub only concerns (GUI) applications, not the kernel, library packages, basic tools and utilities, etc. No Linux system can exist without "normal" (non-Flathub) packages.

By "switch" do you mean "switch from Deb packages to Flathub packages for all the Flathub packages, where it's possible to switch to the Flathub version" or something like that?

Because most packages do not have a Flathub version. There are thousands of packages without a Flatpak version.

Also, switching a large number of packages from Deb to Flatpak would be a massive amount of work for the Mint team.

Consider the apps that Mint comes with. They certainly cannot put those Flatpaks into their ISO, the size would be massive.

Anyway I don't really understand the question... :lol:
It's good that you expressed your opinion on a question you did not understand!!!
You're the one lacking understanding here :wink:
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sip wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:54 am It's good that you expressed your opinion on a question you did not understand!!!
You could also try answering the questions that the poster asked you.
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It's good that you expressed your opinion on a question you did not understand!!!
Big hint ah...you're the one who didn't understand what was going on. Might make more sense to not make a statement that makes you look like your bragging HOUSE Md style until you're the one being most accurate.

So..sorry . Sip, but Hoser Bob is right.

Also, I can tell you from enough time and experience years on end.. seeing how many spamegg has helped on this site, that spamegg has proven to be helpful and valuable to this forum community site.

You were the one asking for general thoughts on this topic, remember? Unless you know it all or enough, and in that case, why did you even ask for help regarding Flathub packages in Linux Mint?

Now. I'm guessing the main point of your topic/question was whether or not Mint will switch to EXCLUSIVELY....AKA ..ONLY...dealing with Flathub apps/packages and not deal with .deb apps/packages anymore

If that is the question...then I doubt it...at least...any time soon. .deb is a cornerstone/stable of the Linux Debian-distro based world and has been for literally well over 15 years now easily.

Beyond that, I don't know and only the devs involved in Mint and probably Ubuntu would know. ..I'd wager.
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Re: Flathub packages in linux mint.

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Hoser Rob wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 11:05 am
sip wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:54 am
spamegg wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:42 am
What do you mean by "switch"?

Flathub only concerns (GUI) applications, not the kernel, library packages, basic tools and utilities, etc. No Linux system can exist without "normal" (non-Flathub) packages.

By "switch" do you mean "switch from Deb packages to Flathub packages for all the Flathub packages, where it's possible to switch to the Flathub version" or something like that?

Because most packages do not have a Flathub version. There are thousands of packages without a Flatpak version.

Also, switching a large number of packages from Deb to Flatpak would be a massive amount of work for the Mint team.

Consider the apps that Mint comes with. They certainly cannot put those Flatpaks into their ISO, the size would be massive.

Anyway I don't really understand the question... :lol:
It's good that you expressed your opinion on a question you did not understand!!!
You're the one lacking understanding here :wink:
Hello! You are probably right!.. :) :wink:
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motoryzen wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 6:57 pm
It's good that you expressed your opinion on a question you did not understand!!!
Big hint ah...you're the one who didn't understand what was going on. Might make more sense to not make a statement that makes you look like your bragging HOUSE Md style until you're the one being most accurate.

So..sorry . Sip, but Hoser Bob is right.

Also, I can tell you from enough time and experience years on end.. seeing how many spamegg has helped on this site, that spamegg has proven to be helpful and valuable to this forum community site.

You were the one asking for general thoughts on this topic, remember? Unless you know it all or enough, and in that case, why did you even ask for help regarding Flathub packages in Linux Mint?

Now. I'm guessing the main point of your topic/question was whether or not Mint will switch to EXCLUSIVELY....AKA ..ONLY...dealing with Flathub apps/packages and not deal with .deb apps/packages anymore

If that is the question...then I doubt it...at least...any time soon. .deb is a cornerstone/stable of the Linux Debian-distro based world and has been for literally well over 15 years now easily.

Beyond that, I don't know and only the devs involved in Mint and probably Ubuntu would know. ..I'd wager.
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Yes, this is a simple question, will mint switch to Flathub packages in the future...! Whoever did not understand and expressed his opinion, that is also GOOD!!. But why such WAVES IN THE OCEAN,,! GENTLEMEN.!?? Topic buried thanks everyone!! :)
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Re: [SOLVED] Flathub packages in linux mint.

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will mint switch to Flathub packages in the future
And midnight true answered your question..yet YOU'RE the one that wanted to either be too vague in spelling out what the real clarity of your question was...or argue with everything everyone here replied with

Move on. This isn't the place to cause problems. I'm out of this nonsense.
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Re: Flathub packages in linux mint.

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sip wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:54 am
spamegg wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:42 am
will LM switch to flathub in the future??
What do you mean by "switch"?

Flathub only concerns (GUI) applications, not the kernel, library packages, basic tools and utilities, etc. No Linux system can exist without "normal" (non-Flathub) packages.

By "switch" do you mean "switch from Deb packages to Flathub packages for all the Flathub packages, where it's possible to switch to the Flathub version" or something like that?

Because most packages do not have a Flathub version. There are thousands of packages without a Flatpak version.

Also, switching a large number of packages from Deb to Flatpak would be a massive amount of work for the Mint team.

Consider the apps that Mint comes with. They certainly cannot put those Flatpaks into their ISO, the size would be massive.

Anyway I don't really understand the question... :lol:
It's good that you expressed your opinion on a question you did not understand!!!
Here's the problem. The reason he didn't understand the question is that it made no sense.
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