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Re: Linux Video Editor - Why no good program?

Postby gravelbay on Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:05 pm

vincent wrote:I'm using PiTiVi as well; OpenShot was my first choice, but I couldn't run it for more than a minute without crashing and it gave me segmentation faults when I tried to use pidgin, rhythmbox, brasero, totem, etc. Have any of you guys tried Cinelerra though? I hear it's a much more complex editor than most other linux video editors out there nowadays, but it's not available in the repos and after my ordeal with OpenShot, I'm loathe to try and install a video editor manually again. :lol:

I tried Cinelerra about a year or so ago. It was kind of unstable and has a VERY steep learning curve. (Think Adobe Premier with a really ugly interface.) I just gave Openshot a try. I could not do one single thing without it crashing. Same thing with Kedenlive. The only video editor that seems to run for me is Kino. But it's so limited in capabilities that I can't do the things I want to so. So I finally broke down and threw a slightly used 160GB SATA drive in and put XP on it and got out my Adobe Premier disk. I had a very nice video with 5 video tracks, 3 audio tracks, transitions, titles, background music, narration, and all in a few hours. If Adobe released Premier for Linux and it was stable, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. You can do anything you can think of.

Another thing I've noticed lately is that AVI files made on my boss' Mac or or my Windows machine have the colors washed out when I play them in Mint unless I use Kino. In Dragon player, thery are washed out. In VLC, they have strange flashing greenish areas. Xine washes out the color and totally removes the audio.
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Re: Linux Video Editor - Why no good program?

Postby gravelbay on Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:12 pm

Missed wrote:If you are prepared to wait a little while, VLC are releasing an editor . . . . . . . .


http://www.learningubuntu.com/news/crea ... deo-editor


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Re: Linux Video Editor - Why no good program?

Postby linuxviolin on Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:16 am

I'm not a specialist about video editing but have you tried Avidemux (also here)?

Avidemux is a free video editor designed for simple cutting, filtering and encoding tasks. It supports many file types, including AVI, DVD compatible MPEG files, MP4 and ASF, using a variety of codecs. Tasks can be automated using projects, job queue and powerful scripting capabilities.

Avidemux is available for Linux, BSD, Mac OS X and Microsoft Windows under the GNU GPL license. The program was written from scratch by Mean, but code from other people and projects has been used as well. Patches, translations and even bug reports are always welcome.

Avidemux is a free open-source program designed for multi-purpose video editing and processing, which can be used on almost all known operating systems and computer platforms.
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Re: Linux Video Editor - Why no good program?

Postby gravelbay on Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:12 am

I've seen it, linuxviolin, but this turned me off before I even thought about installing it.
Avidemux is a free video editor designed for simple cutting, filtering and encoding tasks.

I need a LOT more than that for the kinds of videos I do. :wink:
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Re: Linux Video Editor - Why no good program?

Postby hemimaniac on Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:49 pm

Handbrake?

you can get it from here http://handbrake.fr/
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Re: Linux Video Editor - Why no good program?

Postby gravelbay on Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:19 pm

hemimaniac wrote:Handbrake?

you can get it from here http://handbrake.fr/

Looks like it's just an encoder. Probably an excellent one, but that's not what I need. I need a non-linear editor with at least 6 video and 6 audio tracks (preferably unlimited, like Adobe), audio editing ability, customizable transitions, title making ability, etc.
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Re: Linux Video Editor - Why no good program?

Postby mintnoob on Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:45 pm

Have you tried the new Openshot ver 1.1? They tought it as crash resistant! It's never crashed on me, but I've only done relatively simple editing on it.
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Re: Linux Video Editor - Why no good program?

Postby gravelbay on Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:41 pm

mintnoob wrote:Have you tried the new Openshot ver 1.1? They tought it as crash resistant! It's never crashed on me, but I've only done relatively simple editing on it.

I didn't know they had 1.1. I'm pretty sure it was 1.0 I tried and I could not even make one edit. I won't try anything till I get back home in May. I don't want to risk buggeriing up my laptop because I really need it on this trip.
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Re: Linux Video Editor - Why no good program?

Postby frank392 on Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:34 pm

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Re: Linux Video Editor - Why no good program?

Postby gravelbay on Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:59 am

frank392 wrote:kdenlive

http://www.kdenlive.org/

See my earlier post. Looked great till I clicked on something. I could not even make a singe edit with it. Kino is the only stable editor I've found and it is far too basic. Kino is OK for slamming together a quicky for my blog, but not for making a serious DVD.
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Re: Linux Video Editor - Why no good program?

Postby bolle on Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:19 pm

+1 for Openshot, such a great easy to use program :D
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Re: Linux Video Editor - Why no good program?

Postby tinca on Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:35 am

gravelbay,

my Openshot is now at ver 1.1.3

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Re: Linux Video Editor - Why no good program?

Postby gravelbay on Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:07 pm

Thanks tinca & bolle. But I've tried and tried with openshot. Never got it to run for more than a handful of mouse clicks. And it isn't really as capable as what I'm looking for anyway. I just bit the bullet and bought a refurbished quad core iMac so I can get back into serious video editing. I love Mint. It will stay on my laptop for as long as I can see into the future. It will also stay on my current desktop computer, but I'm not sure how I can squeeze 2 computers into my tiny office. I may also dual boot the iMac with Mint. So I'm not going away - just diving into yet another OS.
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Re: Linux Video Editor - Why no good program?

Postby mintnoob on Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:50 pm

Don't feel bad gravelbay, even though OpenShot works fine on my M8 KDE and I think it's the best Linux Video editor, I still use a dual boot of XP so I can use MovieMaker which I still think is better at this point. I hope that will change soon with the evolution of OpenShot and I believe it will since they seem to do a good job at listening to their users.
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Re: Linux Video Editor - Why no good program?

Postby gravelbay on Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:15 pm

Thanks, mintnoob. I have to say that I'm pretty excited about getting into iMovie and beyond on the Mac. And I can't wait to lock eyes on the 27" monitor. I'm just bummed that I have to spend the money when I love Mint so much. But then again, I paid almost that much money last time I bought a desktop machine - a Dell 486-DX2 15 years ago. And it didn't even come with a monitor! :D

I do acknowledge that writing a full featured, stable non-linear video editor is a stupendous task. I can't imagine a more difficult or complex piece of software to write. So I will watch and wait, and hopefully, long before I'm ready for the next desktop machine, there will be a Linux video editor that will do what I want it to do.
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Re: Linux Video Editor - Why no good program?

Postby Brad on Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:32 pm

I agree...Windows has movie maker.So,why doesn't Linux?
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Re: Linux Video Editor - Why no good program?

Postby mintnoob on Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:55 am

I hear the next version of OpenShot is going to be the bomb. Let's keep our fingers crossed.
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Re: Linux Video Editor - Why no good program?

Postby randomizer on Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:50 am

Brad wrote:I agree...Windows has movie maker.So,why doesn't Linux?

Movie Maker on XP was ok, Movie Maker on Vista was better, Movie Maker on Win 7 is a separate download and is either a modified Vista version or (without explicitly getting the former) a stripped down piece of junkware with few features but a pretty interface. Welcome to Windows Live Essentials.
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Re: Linux Video Editor - Why no good program?

Postby MrD on Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:41 pm

I just installed and tried Openshot v1.1.3. It didn't crash on me thankfully. It does, however, though have some niggling issues.

For one it won't recognise the video codec properly in my digicam movie files, although understands the audio, so looks like i have to rip the videos before being able to use them in Openshot. You can do simple fade in/out now pretty well, but they are set in stone, no variable fading. Audio volume can be changed, but as with all editing in the software, nothing on the fly. So you have to keep stopping and starting. And there's only a pause button so sometimes even that did not work. There were some weird issues with getting white screening on preview when editing, and moving the time marker around and trying to play from selected points was highly problematic. I also could not set the resolution as per the source video file I was using. This was a showstopper for me. It chopped my video up. The software needs manual resolution setting controls, not a limited set of presets. Or even a setting that clones the source videos resolution would do. This would be difficult with a collection of different resolution video files, hence more the need for a manual one. Anyone can right click a video file, to check the resolution it originates in.
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Re: Linux Video Editor - Why no good program?

Postby axel668 on Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:55 am

Kdenlive is pretty good
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