midas wrote:No! By 'WE' I did mean the Linux Mint community. I certainly don't have the intention to start another distribution. Sorry for not being crisp and clear about that point. LinuxMint was the distribution that made me leaving Windows behind. I was only thinking how to make LM a better distro qualitywise - and not having the same bugs and regressions Ubuntu is showing us each 6 months.
I can put it in different words: How do YOU think LM can become a (quality wise) better distribution? The solution has to be within reach for the small LM developer team, the available resources and our community as a whole. We are talking about the future of LM as a distribution and I am very concerned about it. It just HAS to be better and more stable in near future.
Seriously, I knew good and well what you meant in your first post! If you think you can do a better job then have at it!!! THAT
is what FOSS and Linux is about, not "defeating" Windows or gaining "converts."
Look at it this way, how much did you pay for Mint? How much does Clem make off Mint? Other than good-will contributions. YOU have contributed some cash, haven't you?
That is YOUR business...Listen, I am sure Clem and the rest of the development team like the feedback, both negative and positive. Your idea certainly has some merit IF THAT IS WHAT CLEM ENVISIONS FOR MINT!!! But there are reasons why your idea is a bad one for this distro! It is not as simple as just updating to the latest packages on an old base. The kernel itself keeps improving, new features come out very frequently. Often newer packages cannot be run on older bases. Then you have the factor that many of us WANT to run the latest and greatest thing. We do NOT WANT to run a distro that is over a year old, if we did then we would be running Lenny or CentOS! As it is Mint is a bit stale for my taste, I do come from Fedora afterall, and I currently enjoy Arch as my top distro. Mint is good at what it is, which is a stable, brainless, fast install and a solid system. I personally do not want to see the philosophy change. I would not mind going to a debian base instead of Ubuntu, but that is Clem's business, not mine. As far as your LTS idea,, why not just use the LTS Mint releases?
I mean, that is why they are released as LTS, right?
Hey, I was just having at you in my first post, just having a little fun at your expense. I apologize for that. You are certainly free, and encouraged, to voice your views. My point, though made sarcastically, is that it is easy to direct others to do what YOU think needs done. It is harder to acquire a set of skills then offer to help out where needed. It is harder to work in a team and help progress someone else's ideas when you disagree with the direction. Linux is not about gaining users or trying to be better than Windows! It is about the flow of ideas! The ability to take the existing code and develop the OS YOU feel is needed whether it be Fedora, Ubuntu, Mint or Arch. It is about choice. This seems to be a strong recurring theme in this forum this week. That is good, people need to understand that Linux is more than just trying to market a product to as many people as possible. Personally, in 10 years of being immersed in the community now, I see much more harm than good in Linux gaining more popularity! The advantages to widespread Linux use that people most often point to are generally moot points. But the downside is very real. I can understand why people want to turn others on to the great, free OS that they found. But I cannot understand why people cannot just be content with this OS. WHY does it have to be anything other than what it is? If you feel it can be better then YOU make it better. That is what it is about. If you are not a geek and cannot do the work yourself then tough! Just enjoy the benefits of someone else's labor that you are getting for free!
Not trying to win any hearts and minds here, just asking that you think about it.