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Postby roundrighfarn on Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:48 pm

Greetings,
Just yesterday I installed MInt 10 alongside a Windows 7 on my Acer travelmate laptop. After some initial difficulties ( after a couple install attempts with a bad .iso, I found my hard drive had 9 partitions, so I used windows to erase/combine them and reinstalled Mint with a good .iso ) I got Mint 10 up and running and working well. I was dismayed to discover that Netflix does not support Linux and rebooted in Windows to watch a movie. The screen that allows you to select the OS came up fine, I selected Windows and was good to go.

This morning, I tried to reboot in Linux but was unable to. I am able to access BIOS, and boot from the Mint DVD, however, when I try to boot from the hard-drive all I get is a black screen with an unresponsive prompt in the upper left corner. Where do I go from here?
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Re: no OS will boot

Postby seeley on Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:52 pm

Hi!
First: I would never edit partitions from a running OS!
That means: if you only have Windows installed, don't use Windows.
To assist you, please first read my help (link1 below) and post some relevant outputs ("parted", "findGrub";...)
2. "alongside" is no good idea, most user with similar problems used that automatism.
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Re: no OS will boot

Postby DrHu on Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:06 pm

roundrighfarn"="roundrighfarn wrote:I was dismayed to discover that Netflix does not support Linux and rebooted in Windows to watch a movie

Netflix options when using Linux..
http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_wat ... _Instantly)_in_Linux

roundrighfarn wrote:This morning, I tried to reboot in Linux but was unable to. I am able to access BIOS, and boot from the Mint DVD, however, when I try to boot from the hard-drive all I get is a black screen with an unresponsive prompt in the upper left corner. Where do I go from here

Which bootloader are you using, windows OS or some other type

You will have to work with the bootloader you are using to determine how you intend to boot any OS installed (windows, then Linux)
http://apcmag.com/the_definitive_dualbo ... bystep.htm
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Re: no OS will boot

Postby roundrighfarn on Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:45 pm

Thanks seeley,
I used Windows to alter the many partitions that Mint created and left the Windows partitions untouched. As for more info, even if I knew how to use the CLI, I can't get there right now since neither OS is booting.

Thanks DrHu,
I'm not sure what boot loader I'm using. Is there a key I can hold while trying to boot that will let me access this info? All I can do right now is access BIOS which doesn't seem to tell me anything.

I followed your links to the dual install instructions, and they were basically what I did
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Re: no OS will boot

Postby newbie_noob on Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:35 pm

roundrighfarn wrote:Thanks seeley,
I'm not sure what boot loader I'm using. Is there a key I can hold while trying to boot that will let me access this info? All I can do right now is access BIOS which doesn't seem to tell me anything.

I don't think you can get that info from the bios, I think you should boot from a live-cd to find that.
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Re: no OS will boot

Postby seeley on Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:44 pm

Hi!
Please do that:
To assist you, please first read my help (link1 below) and post some relevant outputs ("parted", "findGrub";...)

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Re: no OS will boot

Postby roundrighfarn on Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:59 pm

Thanks seeley,
Here the info

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/dev/sda: No GRUB 7c3c
/dev/sda1: No GRUB 55aa
/dev/sda2: No GRUB 55aa
/dev/sda3: No GRUB 7c3c
/dev/sda4: No GRUB 00
/dev/sda5: No GRUB 00
/dev/sda6: No GRUB 00
/dev/sda7: No GRUB 00
/dev/sda8: No GRUB 00


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Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xf2bd3f90

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1               1        1698    13631488   27  Unknown
/dev/sda2   *        1698        1710      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda3            1710        7137    43590510+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda4            7137       30402   186872833    5  Extended
/dev/sda5            7137       28458   171258178   83  Linux
/dev/sda6           29637       30402     6141952   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda7           28458       29580     9013248   83  Linux
/dev/sda8           29580       29637      452608   82  Linux swap / Solaris


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Model: ATA Hitachi HTS54502 (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 250GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos

Number  Start   End     Size    Type      File system     Flags
 1      1049kB  14.0GB  14.0GB  primary   ntfs            diag
 2      14.0GB  14.1GB  105MB   primary   ntfs            boot
 3      14.1GB  58.7GB  44.6GB  primary   ntfs
 4      58.7GB  250GB   191GB   extended
 5      58.7GB  234GB   175GB   logical   ext4
 7      234GB   243GB   9230MB  logical   ext4
 8      243GB   244GB   463MB   logical   linux-swap(v1)
 6      244GB   250GB   6289MB  logical   linux-swap(v1)


Warning: Unable to open /dev/sr0 read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/sr0
has been opened read-only.
Error: /dev/sr0: unrecognised disk label                                 

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Re: no OS will boot

Postby seeley on Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:42 am

Hi!
First I should know: You have VISTA or W7 (sda1, 2: System and Recovery?)
There are some conflicts; I must know, if and how often you tried to install GRUB"2" (and where? MBR / Parttion?).
Maybe GRUB has to be repaired.
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Re: no OS will boot

Postby roundrighfarn on Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:10 am

The system has window 7, however, the one time that I got to the screen which allowed you to select the operatingn system you wanted to boot, something having to do with VISTA was also there as a choice, maybe it said VISTA loader, or something like that, I don't remember exactly and can't get back there now.

As for the installation of GRUB2, I'm going to assume that every time you try to install Mint, you install grub2. In this case, there were 3 attempts to install mint with a bad .iso, then one more with a new, good .iso. then again, the bad .iso failed every time in the copying files phase, so perhaps grub only got installed once (by the good .iso)

Other than trying to install the .iso, I have never tried to install grub by itself, or done anything specifically with grub alone.

Hope this helps, let me know if you need more info
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Re: no OS will boot

Postby seeley on Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:37 am

Hi!
Before we continue, I must know where your root partition is: sda5 or sda7 - without that knowledge we can not go on.
You could read in my help (link1 below), III G: To install Grub (next steps).
I must leave our house now and will be back in about 4 hours.
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Re: no OS will boot

Postby roundrighfarn on Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:38 pm

Ok, tried to mount the boot, root and home partitions and installed grub per your CLI instructions, got an error saying something like "could not find boot, install successful" (sorry this is not exact, don't have it in front of me anymore)

Now when I start the computer it loads GNU grub version 1.98... Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported.....

now what?
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Re: no OS will boot

Postby seeley on Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:06 pm

Hi!
You know for sure:
1. You have an own boot (sda.?) and a root partition sda.?) and no own home partition?
2. It seems that you installed Grub"2" with success (if you want you could verify it with "findGrub")
Now when I start the computer it loads GNU grub version 1.98... Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported.....

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Re: no OS will boot

Postby seeley on Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:46 pm

Hi!
It seems that you had tried to install GRUB"2" into the MBR of sda and in the partition sda3.
Maybe your grub.cfg is broken / corrupt. You should try to access /boot/grub/grub.cfg from a live medium and post it.
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Re: no OS will boot

Postby roundrighfarn on Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:16 pm

I typed /boot/grub/grub.cfg in the terminal from the live DVD.
It says "bash: /boot/grub/grub.cfg: No such file or directory
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Re: no OS will boot

Postby seeley on Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:30 pm

Hi!
First you must find your root partition and then, to see the file, type
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cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg

copy it into your POST A REPLY.
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Edit: If you have an own boot partition, then the file is on that partition.
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Re: no OS will boot

Postby roundrighfarn on Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:47 pm

how do I find my root partition? maybe you root partition is the same as root folder? when I try to access this is tells me I don't have permission, so I do a su -, but when when prompted for my password is does not accept the password I created and used when the OS was working
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Re: no OS will boot

Postby seeley on Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:32 pm

Hi!
As you can read in my help:
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sudo su
to get root.
My day is ending, we continue tomorrow.
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Re: no OS will boot

Postby seeley on Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:06 am

Hi!
Please try the suggestions and report.
There are more than half a dozen possibilities and we must test one after another; it depends on fortune which one will succeed.
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Re: no OS will boot

Postby roundrighfarn on Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:02 am

Ok< I'm thoroughly confused. Can't find grub.cfg anywhere; Have no idea which partition is what.

I'm ready to start over, supposedly alt-f10, allows me to restore the laptop to factory settings, but that doesn't work either.
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Re: no OS will boot

Postby seeley on Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:33 am

Hi!
Don't capitulate! We will try other approaches.
Some posts before you wrote to see a command line; please boot again and try to catch each detail, especially, if you see GRUB_ or grub>_ or grub rescue>_ or _,...
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