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Re: the best KDE distro

Postby colyn on Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:55 pm

dante19992 wrote:Until Wine picks up support for Debian agian (which considering how far behind they are I doubt they ever will) I will not use a debian based system. If you ever play perfect world international on Wine on a debian base and it works Let me know and I would be THRILLED to switch. I LOVE debian. But until then I will stick with the ubuntu base


I do graphics and photo editing. Never cared much for games on my computer..

However I don't understand what you mean by wine support for Debian. I have squeeze which is the current stable release installed on one of my computers with wine installed and working. If a Windows based program is compatible with wine it should work on any distro that has wine installed..

As for wine on a debian base, Ubuntu and Mint are both debian based distros..
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Re: the best KDE distro

Postby dante19992 on Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:18 pm

colyn wrote:
dante19992 wrote:Until Wine picks up support for Debian agian (which considering how far behind they are I doubt they ever will) I will not use a debian based system. If you ever play perfect world international on Wine on a debian base and it works Let me know and I would be THRILLED to switch. I LOVE debian. But until then I will stick with the ubuntu base


I do graphics and photo editing. Never cared much for games on my computer..

However I don't understand what you mean by wine support for Debian. I have squeeze which is the current stable release installed on one of my computers with wine installed and working. If a Windows based program is compatible with wine it should work on any distro that has wine installed..

As for wine on a debian base, Ubuntu and Mint are both debian based distros..

Ubuntu is no longer a Debian Base but a fork. It has come too far from the Original. And wine for Debian is outdated. The latest debian version is 1.1.42 whereas the latest version is 1.3.15. You see the difference here. Frickelplatz repo barely works and the Ubuntu version should not be installed on Pure debian. That will wreak havoc with your dependencies
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Re: the best KDE distro

Postby colyn on Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:22 am

dante19992 wrote:Ubuntu is no longer a Debian Base but a fork.


But it is still based on Debian..

dante19992 wrote: The latest debian version is 1.1.42 whereas the latest version is 1.3.15. You see the difference here.


Simple enable the winehq ppa.. You then get the latest wine update no matter what distro you have installed..

Versions usually come to the distro's repos late since each one will add their own branding. In many cases they won't even update till the next release..
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Re: the best KDE distro

Postby dante19992 on Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:30 am

colyn wrote:
dante19992 wrote:Ubuntu is no longer a Debian Base but a fork.


But it is still based on Debian..

dante19992 wrote: The latest debian version is 1.1.42 whereas the latest version is 1.3.15. You see the difference here.


Simple enable the winehq ppa.. You then get the latest wine update no matter what distro you have installed..

Versions usually come to the distro's repos late since each one will add their own branding. In many cases they won't even update till the next release..

Like I said it is too far different now. Also Even if I enable the winehq ppa (which the only one I have found is for ubuntu) with debian I will only get the 1.1.42 for debian.
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Re: the best KDE distro

Postby Elisa on Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:27 am

I have recently tested Debian 6 Squeeze/stable, KDE, cryptLVM and have to say, it's really stable and all working, no problems occurred :D

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Re: the best KDE distro

Postby water spirit on Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:53 am

My main Linux installation is Sabayon KDE it is simply the best I have found, good with Nvidia and the rolling release is the main reason I use it. I also have Mint 10 KDE on another computer it's good also.
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Re: the best KDE distro

Postby dante19992 on Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:58 am

Elisa wrote:I have recently tested Debian 6 Squeeze/stable, KDE, cryptLVM and have to say, it's really stable and all working, no problems occurred :D

P.S. Dante, do u really have cut your hair? :O OMG, let it be longer as before, you've looked so cute that way... :D

Yes I have sorry but it was too hard to take care of. When you saw it I had just straightened it. That lasts like five minutes tops. Then I have a long curly black mop on my head. I miss the long hair but it was literally impossible to take care of so I got rid of it. Besides I look better this way :D
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Re: the best KDE distro

Postby dante19992 on Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:01 am

water spirit wrote:My main Linux installation is Sabayon KDE it is simply the best I have found, good with Nvidia and the rolling release is the main reason I use it. I also have Mint 10 KDE on another computer it's good also.

Sabayon you say? I will have to check it out. Does it have Wine? And playonlinux too? Also how do you install software to a source-based distribution. Is it like you compile your software from source? And I know that Zen-kernel Comes for gentoo which Sabayon appears to be based on. Does this mean Zen-Kernel will work for Sabayon too? Also in terms of speed ram/cpu usage and all tht jazz which do you find faster? Sabayon or Kmint?
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Re: the best KDE distro

Postby nukm on Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:11 pm

Pardus 2009.2 has Wine 1.2. PARDUS 2011 does not yet have Wine in the repository. It likely wiil have Wine lastest stable when the 2011 Repos are complete, at which time 2009.2 can be rolled over to 2011.

The lastest Wine source is available - http://www.winehq.org/ here. Since it is your box, you can compile to your liking.
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Re: the best KDE distro

Postby dante19992 on Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:18 pm

nukm wrote:Pardus 2009.2 has Wine 1.2. PARDUS 2011 does not yet have Wine in the repository. It likely wiil have Wine lastest stable when the 2011 Repos are complete, at which time 2009.2 can be rolled over to 2011.

The lastest Wine source is available - http://www.winehq.org/ here. Since it is your box, you can compile to your liking.

I can not compile at the moment. I have no idea how to T.T
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Re: the best KDE distro

Postby TBABill on Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:08 pm

Not hijacking, just asking a follow up that will help dante as well - does the Sabayon desktop feel as fast as other KDE distros? Is there another one that you can compare it to in terms of speed? And I don't mean benchmark speeds, just how responsive the desktop, apps opening, browsers, etc. feel to you as the user.
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Re: the best KDE distro

Postby dante19992 on Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:23 pm

That made me think I have forgotten one more question. The graphical installers Sabayon uses. Is it more like Synpatic or Software manager?
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Re: the best KDE distro

Postby wayne128 on Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:36 pm

dante19992 wrote:That made me think I have forgotten one more question. The graphical installers Sabayon uses. Is it more like Synpatic or Software manager?


Sabayon installer is Anaconda, the same used in Fedora, Scientific, Redhat, etc
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda
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Re: the best KDE distro

Postby dante19992 on Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:01 pm

wayne128 wrote:
dante19992 wrote:That made me think I have forgotten one more question. The graphical installers Sabayon uses. Is it more like Synpatic or Software manager?


Sabayon installer is Anaconda, the same used in Fedora, Scientific, Redhat, etc
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda

I mean software manager thingy.
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Re: the best KDE distro

Postby okie2003 on Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:07 pm

Has anyone played around with Calculate? It seems quick and well put together. Adding packages may be a bit over my head since it is Gentoo based. Also that process is really slow on dialup.
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Re: the best KDE distro

Postby dante19992 on Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:46 pm

Never heard of it
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Re: the best KDE distro

Postby wayne128 on Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:16 am

out of curiousity, did upgrade on my 1-week old Kanotix -Debian based and
wine version is 1.3.15

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Re: the best KDE distro

Postby tdockery97 on Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:01 am

I'm really liking Fedora 14 KDE. And it has the latest wine version.
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Re: the best KDE distro

Postby linuxviolin on Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:59 am

okie2003 wrote:Has anyone played around with Calculate? It seems quick and well put together. Adding packages may be a bit over my head since it is Gentoo based. Also that process is really slow on dialup.

dante19992 wrote:Never heard of it

You could want/should to look at this: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=46514&start=0 :wink:

tdockery97 wrote:I'm really liking Fedora 14 KDE.

I relatively like it too... but in its XFCE Spin! :mrgreen:
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Re: the best KDE distro

Postby colyn on Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:20 pm

TBABill wrote:Not hijacking, just asking a follow up that will help dante as well - does the Sabayon desktop feel as fast as other KDE distros? Is there another one that you can compare it to in terms of speed? And I don't mean benchmark speeds, just how responsive the desktop, apps opening, browsers, etc. feel to you as the user.


I have Sabayon KDE on one of my computers. It does feel a bit faster than some of the other distros but not fast enough to really matter.

It is a very stable system though..
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