LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking TESTING

[Elmacus]

Todays update wants to remove mint-meta-codecs and mint-meta-debian.
That does not sound correct. I have not tried this ofcourse yet

[Silent Warrior]

Probably those mint-meta-packages use some =-dependency instead of =<... Anyway, I went ahead with the install. Maybe I'll get back to you at some point to report on what happened.

[wangsuda]

I did all the updates today. No problems on my machine.

[Elmacus]

I did all the updates today. No problems on my machine.

What ? Did it also remove mint-xxx and it worked, or did it not remove anything ?

Probably i have installed something "unusual":

Remove:
gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad libtar mint-meta-codecs mint-meta-debian
New:
libdvbpsi7 libtar0
Upgrade:
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio libdrm-intel1 libdrm-nouveau1a libdrm-radeon1
libdrm2 libgstfarsight0.10-0 libvlc5 libvlccore4 mozilla-plugin-vlc
python-xapian python-zope.interface vlc vlc-data vlc-nox vlc-plugin-notify
vlc-plugin-pulse

[wangsuda]

OK, you busted me. Once a day I update from the terminal. I let it do whatever it wants. While the updates you have are what I installed, I do not recall having anything removed. Sorry I cannot be of more help.

[lmdeman]

It seems that gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad (coming from debian-multimedia) has not been updated yet so it is removed because it conflicts with the new gstreamer0.10-plugins-xxx (coming from debian).
mint-meta-xxx stuff depends on gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad so they get removed too!
I would refrain to update the four gstreamer-related packages (the other updates should not break) until the debian-multimedia package get updated too.

[dawgdoc]

I just updated the python-xapian package plus the gstreamer packages:

gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio
libgstfarsight0.10-0

Updating just these removed the gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad package. Checked and I can still play MP3s in Rhythmbox, play flashvideo in VLC and youtube with audio in each.

I did notice the mint-meta-debian packages is no longer in the update list.

[lmdeman]

From the description of gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad

This package contains plugins from the "bad" set, a set of non-free
plug-ins that might pose distribution problems.

Bad plugins are faac, mpeg2enc, vdpau and xvid.

Maybe some multimedia format can no longer be played by gstreamer-based players after the update.
AFAIK vlc and mplayer should not be affected.

[8oluf7]

I have again tried to update just the xserver-xorg and xserver-xorg-core files but although I had deselected all the other updates it pulled them all thro.

It would - The dependencies tab for xserver-xorg in Synaptic shows that they include xserver-xorg-core, xserver-xorg-input-all and xserver-xorg-video-all. The latter two depend on all of the individual input and display drivers. So, AFAIK updating xserver-xorg will pull in all of the other updates, even if you deselected them, in order to satisfy the dependencies!

[Fornhamfred]

I have again tried to update just the xserver-xorg and xserver-xorg-core files but although I had deselected all the other updates it pulled them all thro.

It would - The dependencies tab for xserver-xorg in Synaptic shows that they include xserver-xorg-core, xserver-xorg-input-all and xserver-xorg-video-all. The latter two depend on all of the individual input and display drivers. So, AFAIK updating xserver-xorg will pull in all of the other updates, even if you deselected them, in order to satisfy the dependencies!

Thanks Ok So that answers that but I am still no further forward with the problem of the screen refresh. The problem is definitely with these files as I cannot get a working system after the update. I am having the same problem with Mint 11 so assume there must be a bug.

SOLVED SORT OF

I noted that after updating the above that the 3D graphics which were not working previously, were working. If you rotate the cube when the screen is not refreshing then the screen refresh works perfectly. If I stop compiz at startup then all is perfect. This is therefore a problem with compiz and the new intel driver

[tux-sven]

I made update today without any following problems. (sudo apt-get update and sudo apt dist-upgrade) As usual.

Isn't a meta-package only a kind of container for a number of packages, only used for easy-installation purpose?
In that case, it should only be like an empty box to throw away when it's used?

[asymmetros]

In that case, it should only be like an empty box to throw away when it's used?

I think it is sometinhg like that. I have those meta-packages removed for about a couple of months now

[hopimet]

Same issue for me. The dist-upgrade wanted to remove gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad libtar mint-meta-codecs mint-meta-debian.

I decided to freeze these packages (echo "name_of_the_pkg hold | dpkg --set-selections) and wait.

I don't know if this is a good solution because the next dist-upgrade wanted to remove vlc. So I had to freeze it too.
Now my list of pkg that won't be upgraded is : gstreamer0.10-plugins-good libgstfarsight0.10-0 vlc vlc-nox vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse

[zerozero]

at this moment i have

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Reading package lists... Done
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  gstreamer0.10-plugins-really-bad mint-meta-codecs mint-meta-debian
The following packages will be upgraded:
  firmware-atheros firmware-bnx2 firmware-bnx2x firmware-intelwimax
  firmware-ipw2x00 firmware-ivtv firmware-iwlwifi firmware-linux
  firmware-linux-nonfree firmware-qlogic firmware-ralink firmware-realtek
  gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
  gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio libdrm-intel1 libdrm-nouveau1a libdrm-radeon1
  libdrm2 libgstfarsight0.10-0 libpaper-utils libpaper1 nvidia-kernel-common
  nvidia-settings python-xapian python-zope.interface
26 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 3 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 17.6 MB of archives.
After this operation, 750 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?


i'm going to update: meta pkgs are only that, empty pkgs to pull in a set of other pkgs, and really-bad i prefer to let apt do his job (anyway the formats it supports i don't use;

[viking777]

LMDE has been completely trouble free for a while now, but yesterday I ran into this which started with 'gecko-mediaplayer' not updating, I don't think it has been mentioned before so here it is:

apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libgconf2-4 : Depends: gconf2-common (>= 2.32) but 2.28.1-6 is installed

Incidentally you might be interested in the output of apt-get -f install:

apt-get -f install
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
python-opengl guile-1.6 gnuchess-book gnome-games-extra-data wvdial
libgoffice-0.8-8-common tcptraceroute libwvstreams4.6-base bison libots0
gnome-cards-data libwpg-0.2-2 libaiksaurusgtk-1.2-0c2a abiword-common
python-gtkglext1 libaiksaurus-1.2-0c2a system-config-printer-udev
libfinance-quote-perl gdebi-core gnumeric-common libktoblzcheck1c2a
libloudmouth1-0 slib python-tz libaiksaurus-1.2-data flex libwps-0.2-2
python-clamav libgtkmathview0c2a libuniconf4.6 libwvstreams4.6-extras
gnuchess guile-1.6-slib python-cupshelpers libgtkglext1 libnet1 freeglut3
libwpd-0.9-9
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following extra packages will be installed:
librep9 libxfce4ui-1-0 rep rep-gtk sawfish sawfish-data xfwm4 xfwm4-themes
Suggested packages:
rep-doc xfce4
The following packages will be REMOVED:
abiword abiword-plugin-grammar abiword-plugin-mathview aptoncd apturl at-spi
baobab brasero brasero-common capplets-data deskbar-applet evince
evolution-data-server file-roller gcalctool gconf-defaults-service
gconf-editor gconf2 gdebi gdm3 gecko-mediaplayer gedit gksu gnome-about
gnome-applets gnome-applets-data gnome-bluetooth gnome-control-center
gnome-dictionary gnome-games gnome-games-data gnome-mag gnome-media
gnome-media-common gnome-mplayer gnome-netstatus-applet gnome-nettool
gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-power-manager gnome-schedule
gnome-screensaver gnome-screenshot gnome-search-tool gnome-session
gnome-session-bin gnome-settings-daemon gnome-system-log
gnome-system-monitor gnome-system-tools gnome-terminal gnome-terminal-data
gnome-utils gnucash gnucash-common gnucash-docs gnumeric
google-chrome-unstable gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs gthumb gthumb-data gucharmap
gufw gvfs gvfs-backends gvfs-bin libabiword-2.8 libatspi1.0-0 libbonoboui2-0
libbrasero-media0 libcamel1.2-14 libcamel1.2-19 libcryptui0a
libebackend1.2-0 libebook1.2-10 libebook1.2-9 libecal1.2-7 libecal1.2-8
libedata-book1.2-2 libedata-book1.2-8 libedata-cal1.2-10 libedata-cal1.2-7
libedataserver1.2-13 libedataserver1.2-14 libedataserverui1.2-11
libedataserverui1.2-8 libegroupwise1.2-13 libgail-gnome-module libgconf2-4
libgconf2.0-cil libgconfmm-2.6-1c2 libgksu2-0 libgnome-desktop-2-17
libgnome-media0 libgnome-vfs2.0-cil libgnome-window-settings1 libgnome2-0
libgnome2-common libgnome2-perl libgnome2-vfs-perl libgnome2.24-cil
libgnomekbd-common libgnomekbd4 libgnomepanel2.24-cil libgnomeui-0
libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libgnomevfs2-extra libgoffice-0.8-8
libgtkhtml3.14-19 libgweather-common libgweather1 libmetacity-private0
libpanel-applet2-0 libslab0a metacity metacity-common mintmenu mintwelcome
mousetweaks nautilus nautilus-actions nautilus-clamscan nautilus-data
nautilus-gksu nautilus-open-terminal nautilus-sendto nautilus-share
network-manager-gnome network-manager-pptp-gnome notification-daemon
notify-osd paprefs pulseaudio-module-gconf python-evolution python-gconf
python-gnome2 python-gnomeapplet python-gnomedesktop python-nautilus
python-pyatspi seahorse shiki-colors-metacity-theme shiki-wise-theme
simple-scan software-properties-gtk system-config-printer totem-common
vodafone-mobile-connect yelp
The following NEW packages will be installed:
librep9 libxfce4ui-1-0 rep rep-gtk sawfish sawfish-data xfwm4 xfwm4-themes
0 upgraded, 8 newly installed, 150 to remove and 8 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 5,298 kB of archives.
After this operation, 579 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

Should I do this?


That was yesterday, today I have 9 available updates none of which will install presumably for the same reason.
(tried aptitude - same result).

[zerozero]

hi viking, welcome back
and with a though one

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amadeu@amadeu ~ $ apt-cache policy gecko-mediaplayer
gecko-mediaplayer:
  Installed: 0.9.9.2-1
  Candidate: 0.9.9.2-1
  Version table:
 *** 0.9.9.2-1 0
        700 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
amadeu@amadeu ~ $ apt-cache policy libgconf2-4
libgconf2-4:
  Installed: 2.28.1-6
  Candidate: 2.28.1-6
  Version table:
 *** 2.28.1-6 0
        700 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
amadeu@amadeu ~ $ apt-cache policy gconf2-common
gconf2-common:
  Installed: 2.28.1-6
  Candidate: 2.28.1-6
  Version table:
 *** 2.28.1-6 0
        700 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
amadeu@amadeu ~ $


i assume you tried the dist-upgrade and no joy either;
the only thing i can think off is some king of conflict between xfce and gnome

[scottlinux]

Slightly OT: I noticed I had some weird dependency and breakage problems from using a mirror other than ftp.debian.org. Not sure if this was just a weird blip, or something that can happen?

(Ex. cheese package not available. odd!)

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stmiller@brahms:~$ cheese
The program 'cheese' is currently not installed.  To run 'cheese' please ask your administrator to install the package 'cheese'
cheese: command not found
stmiller@brahms:~$ sudo apt-get install cheese
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Package cheese is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
However the following packages replace it:
  cheese-common

E: Package 'cheese' has no installation candidate


After switching back to the main debian.org repo, things are happy.

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eamer0.10-plugins-good (from .../gstreamer0.10-plugins-good_0.10.29-2_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package cheese.
Unpacking cheese (from .../cheese_2.30.1-2_amd64.deb) ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Processing triggers for gnome-menus ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
Setting up libcheese-gtk18 (2.30.1-2) ...
Setting up gstreamer0.10-plugins-good (0.10.29-2) ...
Setting up cheese (2.30.1-2) ...
stmiller@brahms:~$


[viking777]

hi viking, welcome back
and with a though one

Thank you zerozero your information is both timely and effective.

I have no idea how this has happened, but I seem to be several versions ahead of you in both libgconf and gecko-mediaplayer. I forced downgrades of both these packages and now my system is back to normal again. So thank you for those apt policy reports they were invaluable. As you probably know, I do not mess with my sources on LMDE so I just cant understand how I have got in front of everyone else on these package versions

BTW, thank you for my welcome back, but I haven't actually been away, I have just been lurking instead of contributing, it is like that every summer with me, I will be back to torture you again full time in the Autumn

[tux-sven]

Funny viking777, I can see that you use "LMDE, Mint 10, PCLOS". That is exactly what I have installed too. Those are the most performing dists at the moment I think.
I am also trying LM11, installed on an USB stick, but it is not as good as LM10 yet. Too many Ubuntu bugs.

[misGnomer]

once again, no need to download a deb from an external site when it is in LMDE's repos;

libcairo2 (1.10.2-6) is in synaptic, open synaptic, do a search for libcairo2, highlight the pkg, then in main menu, package, force version and choose 1.10.2-6 (testing), install it, after this F-Spot should install fine aswell

Well I just noticed that I'm also hit by this missing libcairo 1.10.2 issue. I don't need F-Spot (although it is currently uninstallable), but GIMP (2.7.3 ~git from Frickelplatz sid/main repo, in use due to their packaging of Chromium) now fails to start with an error:

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The Cairo version being used is too old!

GIMP requires Cairo version 1.10.2 or later.
Installed Cairo version is 1.10.0.

Somehow you or your software packager managed
to install GIMP with an older Cairo version.

Please upgrade to Cairo version 1.10.2 or later.

I tried removing the frick^^freaky GIMP v2.7.3, but the regular v2.6 doesn't show up and I still only have the non-debian libcairo2 1.10.0-1ubuntu2 installed/available. What's blocking the Debian Testing libcairo2 1.10.2-6 from showing up? I do see the genuine Debian libcairo2-doc of that updated version.

Can I just use the Package -> Force Version option?


PS. There's a bug filed some two months ago against libcairo2: "LMDE ships with broken libcairo2"

(offtopic mumble... I do appreciate having the Frickel packaged Chromium around, but I'm increasingly worried about the side effects of Frickel's other packages intruding...)