Ah one more, then am done with endless round and round.
Like MALsPa, dislike buntu/canonical. But it's any persons right to like a nix distro or not as they choose.
Though M ya seem to think I/we wish bad things on ubuntu. I'd be happy and using ubuntu proudly if it were anything like the undeserved hype surrounding it makes it out to be. After having tried around a dozen. I know ubuntu is nothing special and comes up wayyyy short imo to much other nix. That's just out of the ones I've tried so far. Don't doubt out of the 200+ distro's actively being developed. Many could boast being better than anything buntu.
(edit) There are actually 323 actively dev distros listed on distrowatch.
Would like it if buntu were living up to it's rep. Would be good for linux, opensource and bad for M$. Sadly don't think they are even coming close, shrugs. Out of that list of buntu based ya posted. One I know is better overall ( well imo ) ... LM and see probably half a dozen I believe could honestly say the same. As for being derivatives of buntu. That brings us back to how much of buntu is actually buntu and how much is actually stuff Debian put together ? My understanding is the majority of ubuntu is rebranded Debian code. Also interesting to note, that when you search on distrowatch for Debian based distro's all the ones you list also come up for it including ubuntu itself. As being derivatives/based on Debian.
So which is it ? They are either based on ubuntu or on Debian. If buntu is 3/4's Debian and who knows where they got the rest of what makes up buntu. Then doesn't make sense to me to say they are derivatives of ubuntu. Not to mention w/o being devs and wading through the source code involved. We can't for sure say how much of what makes up those other nix flavors, is ubuntu's code anyway. What they used, what they changed ... What they added themselves ... etc.
Personally think a lot of distro's opt to base on ubuntu cause of it's popularity. They know they'll also get some of the promotion and second hand exposure by the association. That's how I found LM originally ... Researching ubuntu. Plus knowing all the stupid things canonical apparently insists on doing. Sure many of them are scooping up ubuntu users who get fed up with buntu and leave. ( edit: Or people find a list of those distro's and like the look of one them instead of going with ubuntu. ) Look at Mint ... they were smart enough to manipulate the hype surrounding ubuntu to their advantage. Think they are rightly credited with being ubuntu done right. Cause they take pains to make ubuntu more user friendly, better organized and sure they also make efforts to avoid some of the bugginess they inherit from canonical too.
They've gotten many a ship jumper from ubuntu and in that case think it's a win/win. The ex=buntu user gets a better OS and LM gets another user to add to the community.
These are just pointless ramblings. Obviously don't care for ubuntu. Would rather see a distro more deserving of the credit get some of it. Instead of everyone thinking buntu is anything but a so, so ... Probably will work well enough or likely won't fry your computer kinda distro. That's one of the things I find intriguing about gnu/linux. Who get's credit for what is completely up in the air.
Similar to this quote from ubuntu itself.
Most source packages in all Ubuntu components (about 4 in 5 at the time of this writing) are copied unmodified from Debian, but other sources include apt-get.org, REVU, directly from organisations such as Blackdown and WineHQ, software which has been packaged by Ubuntu developers, and packages created specifically for Ubuntu.
From https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu/ForDebia ... Developers