We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

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We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

Postby zerozero on Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:12 am

disclaimer about incoming
1) incoming is not a way to get newer, updated, backported, whatever packages;
2) most of the time incoming and latest are exactly the same;
3) incoming will receive the UP's before they are pushed to latest and it's our task to test them and report (with meaningful reports whenever possible) all the bugs/regressions we found


Introducing Update Packs in Linux Mint Debian (July 2011)
The incoming and latest repos are the greatest innovation since LMDE came out (imho), it's a huge effort to make our distro more user-friendly and safe (as safe as testing can be :D ); but we need to test it, report the issues, present solutions, be the "guinea pigs" :lol:
And it's easy, it's a two step process and we are ready to start helping out:

incoming repo
please note the new layout as off UP5 - 31-jul-2012


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apt sources

change your sources.list to
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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import incoming
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming testing main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/multimedia testing main non-free
after editing, Ctrl+o saves and Ctrl+x exits the file


latest repo

or you can play safe and point your sources.list to latest:
- where the updates only go after been tested in incoming, and the Mint team is happy with the stability of them;

same steps as for incoming, but the sources.list must look like this (updated 28 sept to reflect the mirrored multimedia and security repos)
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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/multimedia testing main non-free



known issues
if in the above process you get an error saying
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E: Release file expired, ignoring http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/dists/testing/Release (invalid since xh xmin xs)

don't panic :lol: the fix is easy:
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gksudo gedit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/80mintupdate-debian

(if you're using MATE replace gedit with pluma)
and put this line in there
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Acquire::Check-Valid-Until "false";

save, and the error should be gone

p.s- i sure forgot something, please tell me and i edit the post for completeness 8)
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Reason: cleaned some dated references and added a disclaimer about incoming
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Re: We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

Postby tdockery97 on Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:34 am

I've already made the changes, and am ready to enjoy the "incoming" ride. :D
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Re: We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

Postby aljoriz on Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:41 am

Just when I swore lmde off, it keeps calling me back ha ha ha ha :lol: hmm might as well take the plunge and back up my files
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Re: We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

Postby Paco on Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:18 am

I like the name: Linux Mint Debian Exploding Lemming Team, like mockturtl called it in the blog...

I began testing it yesterday, but I'm not sure if my participation helps anybody, since I'm using the liquorix kernel... maybe yes...

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Re: We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

Postby AlbertP on Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:33 am

You will not be able to find Debian kernel bugs but at least bugs in other packages would appear at you.
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Re: We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

Postby TBABill on Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:36 am

I'm using the stock 2.6.39 kernel so I'll update my sources list and begin using mintupdate-debian (also never thought I'd say that!).
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Re: We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

Postby wayne128 on Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:44 am

zerozero,

to simulate a new user, I reinstall from fresh with the original release 201101.
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lmde32mu wayne # uname -r
2.6.32-5-686


please amend a bit of your instruction, after changing sources.list, I need to do
sudo apt-get update

else

lmde32mu wayne # sudo apt-get install mintupdate-debian
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package mintupdate-debian

as I started fresh, I thought just capture all infor, so that it might be good reference for some.. below is the first apt-get after fresh install.

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lmde32mu wayne # apt-get update
Get:1 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian Release.gpg [198 B]
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian/backport Translation-en             
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian/backport Translation-en_US           
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian/import Translation-en     
Get:2 http://security.debian.org testing/updates Release.gpg [836 B]
Ign http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates/contrib Translation-en         
Ign http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates/contrib Translation-en_US     
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian/import Translation-en_US   
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian/main Translation-en       
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian/main Translation-en_US               
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian/romeo Translation-en                 
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian/romeo Translation-en_US             
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian/upstream Translation-en   
Get:3 http://debian.linuxmint.com testing Release.gpg [836 B]       
Ign http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/ testing/contrib Translation-en       
Ign http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates/main Translation-en 
Ign http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates/non-free Translation-en
Ign http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates/non-free Translation-en_US
Get:4 http://security.debian.org testing/updates Release [38.4 kB]             
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian/upstream Translation-en_US           
Get:5 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian Release [12.1 kB]                   
Ign http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/ testing/contrib Translation-en_US   
Ign http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/ testing/main Translation-en         
Ign http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/ testing/main Translation-en_US       
Ign http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/ testing/non-free Translation-en     
Ign http://debian.linuxmint.com/incoming/ testing/non-free Translation-en_US   
Get:6 http://debian.linuxmint.com testing Release [134 kB]                     
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main i386 Packages                   
Get:7 http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing Release.gpg [198 B]             
Ign http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ testing/main Translation-en             
Ign http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ testing/main Translation-en_US           
Ign http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ testing/non-free Translation-en         
Ign http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ testing/non-free Translation-en_US       
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream i386 Packages               
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import i386 Packages                 
Get:8 http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing Release [29.1 kB]               
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/backport i386 Packages               
Get:9 http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing/main i386 Packages/DiffIndex [2,023 B]
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/romeo i386 Packages                   
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main i386 Packages                 
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream i386 Packages             
Get:10 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main i386 Packages [14 B]   
Get:11 http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing/non-free i386 Packages/DiffIndex [1,057 B]
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import i386 Packages                 
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/backport i386 Packages               
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/romeo i386 Packages         
Get:12 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/main i386 Packages [8,590 B]
Get:13 http://debian.linuxmint.com testing/main i386 Packages [7,142 kB]       
Get:14 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib i386 Packages [14 B]
Get:15 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/non-free i386 Packages [14 B]
Get:16 http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing/main i386 Packages [69.2 kB]   
Get:17 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/upstream i386 Packages [5,208 B]   
Get:18 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/import i386 Packages [19.3 kB]     
Get:19 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/backport i386 Packages [20 B]     
Get:20 http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing/non-free i386 Packages [5,787 B]
Get:21 http://packages.linuxmint.com debian/romeo i386 Packages [20 B]         
Get:22 http://debian.linuxmint.com testing/contrib i386 Packages [61.3 kB]     
Get:23 http://debian.linuxmint.com testing/non-free i386 Packages [109 kB]     
Fetched 7,639 kB in 1min 15s (101 kB/s)                                       
Reading package lists... Done


Next is your last step of installing new mintupdate-debian

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lmde32mu wayne # apt-get install mintupdate-debian
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
  mint-meta-codecs
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following extra packages will be installed:
  mint-meta-codecs
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  mint-meta-debian mintupdate
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  mint-meta-codecs mintupdate-debian
0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 2 to remove and 934 not upgraded.
Need to get 113 kB of archives.
After this operation, 57.3 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
Get:1 http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian/main mint-meta-codecs i386 2011.06.15-1lmde1 [1,454 B]
Get:2 http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian/main mintupdate-debian all 1.0.2 [112 kB]
Fetched 113 kB in 1s (61.4 kB/s)           
(Reading database ... 125965 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing mint-meta-debian ...
Removing mintupdate ...
Processing triggers for gnome-menus ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
Selecting previously deselected package mint-meta-codecs.
(Reading database ... 125919 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking mint-meta-codecs (from .../mint-meta-codecs_2011.06.15-1lmde1_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package mintupdate-debian.
Unpacking mintupdate-debian (from .../mintupdate-debian_1.0.2_all.deb) ...
Processing triggers for gnome-menus ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
Setting up mint-meta-codecs (2011.06.15-1lmde1) ...
Setting up mintupdate-debian (1.0.2) ...



ok, now I have to stop using apt-get and switch to MU.

will take a while..934 recommended updates available (591M)


MU reported: 14 packages will be removed, 202 will be installed.
so just take all and hope for the best..

one more chance: but as new user will not be able to go thru so many lists.
so captured those that will be removed...
just take all to see what happen

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esound-clients will be removed
libcryptui0 will be removed
libdrm-nouveau1 will be removed
libgtkhtml-editor-common will be removed
libgtkhtml-editor0 will be removed
libperl5.10 will be removed
libsdl1.2debian-alsa will be removed
libtar will be removed
ntfsprogs will be removed
openoffice.org-base-core will be removed
openoffice.org-core will be removed
python-gi will be removed
xserver-xorg-video-nv will be removed
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Re: We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

Postby aljoriz on Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:49 am

did a complete re-install for the Nth time just for fun.

Immediately after the install, I changed the sources to point to repo did an sudo apt-get update from the terminal, installed the mintupdate-debian.. updated again and installed all packages much to my surprise.

kexec-tools is still among the files to be installed, must still be a new feature. :lol: oh well will remove it afterwards

Kudos to Clem for showing some love for LMDE!! the MU-Debian looks better than the ubuntu based mintupdate
One more thing the upgrading is more fast thanks to the new server :P

Quick Question: if I point the sources to jpn server as I am living in the Philippines (Southeast Asia), would it improve the downloading package speed?
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Re: We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

Postby zerozero on Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:11 am

aljoriz,
with MU-debian v. 1 we couldn't select mirrors for the mint repos

mockturtl Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 6:33 pm

Great news! (Is that angels I hear singing?) Thanks to zerozero and everybody on the forum for taking the lead on the Linux Mint Debian Exploding Lemming Team. :D

NB: if you’ve used a tool like netselect-apt to find a local mirror for packages.linuxmint.com, you’ll see this warning in mintupdate:

http://img199.imageshack.us/i/screensho ... ckinf.jpg/

Presumably that will go away when the mirrors update to the latest; meanwhile, switch back to the official repo (“deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import”).
Clem Says:
July 5th, 2011 at 7:04 pm

@mockturtl: Congratulations, you’re the first one to find a bug in the new mintupdate-debian :) I’ll have that fixed soon.


anyway, right now i got an update to v. 1.0.2, so probably that issue is solved;
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Re: We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

Postby wayne128 on Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:05 pm

ok, after some two hours ,

update is completed,
Not all changes and updates succeeded.
For further details of the failure, please expand the 'Details' panel below.

the terminal is now frozen, but I can read these:
Processing triggers for initramfs-tools
update-initfs : Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-686
Errors were encountered while processing:
libperl5.12
libpurple0
libpolkit-agent-1.0
pidgin-facebookchat
libsnmp15
pidgin
perl
libavformat52
xhat
vlc
perl-modules
vlc-modules
vlc-nox
vlc-plugin-notify
vlc-plugin-pulse



with a pop up windows saying:

E: /var/cache/apt/archives/samba_2%3a3.5.8~dfsg-5_i386.deb: subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 2



not too good.. got to shutdown?
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Re: We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

Postby zerozero on Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:12 pm

no!
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sudo apt-get -f install
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Re: We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

Postby AlbertP on Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:40 pm

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sudo dpkg --configure -a

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apt install -f

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apt autoremove
(can be dangerous; watch what it wants to remove)
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Re: We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

Postby wayne128 on Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:47 pm

so I try to use synaptic to see if i could fix broken packages, NO error
back to try MU second time,
it started again, after running a long time... well saw Mint 11 screen and the MU hang up there for long time. nothing can get it out..

too bad, logout, longin again, MU still hang, synaptic hang...cannot apt-get..

took the risk, shutdown.

surprisingly, still can boot up, with firefox5, Mint11 screen,

EDIT: but then the MU icon ( shield) said the system is fully update??

now running
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dpkg --configure -a


train is still moving.. hope for the best
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Re: We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

Postby zerozero on Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:00 pm

wayne, wish you the best luck :)
atm a fresh LMDE install is basically broken, see here
viewtopic.php?f=141&t=67502&start=680#p441746
and the log http://pastebin.com/0piSkvJc
and this post by LifeInTheGrey describes the first update perfectly
viewtopic.php?f=141&t=76315#p444001
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Re: We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

Postby wayne128 on Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:09 pm

finally, after more than 3 hours
fully updated

remove kexec-tools

reboot to new kernel

wayne@lmde32mu ~ $ uname -r
2.6.39-2-686-pae


quick test:
1 Problem on media playing: No sound,
video fast forward on Mplayer
this is first time with such sound and ff video out of the box.
2. vlc video OK, no sound, oop!!
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Re: We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

Postby aljoriz on Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:13 pm

zerozero wrote:atm a fresh LMDE install is basically broken


will future update packs fixed a fresh LMDE borked install?
One more question: tried using MU then check on about to see the version number and it has no version number, yes I know I can check the version number via synaptic but it would more convenient for n00bs if a version number was present.. hoping this to be addressed.
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Re: We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

Postby hnrywng on Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:25 pm

Cool. I will now point my netbook to "incoming" and my t40 to "latest".

Afaik, if anyone wants to get even more bleeding edge you can always try your luck and point your sources.list to track SID at:

deb http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/linuxmint-packages/ debian import main
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org unstable main non-free

From my understanding there are no security repos when tracking SID. So beware.

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Re: We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

Postby Elmacus on Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:26 pm

Im on incoming and will report any strange stuff.
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Re: We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

Postby zerozero on Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:26 pm

- the updated iso should be just around the corner, so this issue is we can say solved;
- i've noticed also that help>about has no v. number;
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Re: We need more testers to the new incoming repo (how-to)

Postby GeneC on Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:50 pm

Fully updated Nvidia and Mesa (thanks to "zerozero" 8) ) , and sources pointing to "incoming repo".
I really like all the new info and warnings given with "Update Pack Info" in the new "mintUpdate Manager".

For those who haven't changed and want a look-see
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Being pretty new to Linux. I wont be as much help as you experience folks, but it will be interesting. :D :shock:
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