LMDE 201108 RC (Gnome & Xfce) released!

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Well, you never know, right? Even some newbie PC mags cover topics like this today.
(For the records: No, I'm not calling anyone a newbie here, being a LM newbie myself.)

[Artichoke]

I was setting up my old computer for my 8 year old son, and I used it as a test bed for Ubuntu and its Unity interface. Terrible thing, I just can't convince myself to like it. So, after that unpleasant diversion I moved on to the real object, Mint Xfce. Installing from the 201104 disc gave me problems with Grub which have been discussed in various locations throughout the forum but were beyond my ability to overcome (being a largely non-techie type of person). I decided instead to use the new 201108 RC instead. As I hoped, it got me past the Grub problem, but I was then overcome by other problems, most notably the inability of the OS to operate the audio.

So I'm sorry to say that, in the interests of sanity and convenience, I've switched my son to Xubuntu until such time as the Mint Xfce niggles are ironed. Xubuntu offered a cleaner installation interface and none of the problems I experienced with Mint Xfce, and in this instance won the day for me.

However Mint Xfce is loaded with promise, and niggles aside, I liked it more than Xubuntu. Keep up the good work, Mint team. There's a winner in the making, and as soon as a few more wrinkles are ironed out I will be looking to switch back. I wish I could assist the effort, but I have no skills to offer, and can only contribute as a provider of end-user feedback.

Best luck,
Warren

[Murdock]

Kinda cute but it still can not compete with SalineOS.

[ThistleWeb]

Anyone know if the XFCE spin is XFCE 4.8? Usually it's in the release notes, but then usually it's a separate blog post for both Gnome and XFCE.

[rperitsky]

Is there any chance that this update of LMDE is compatible with Remastersys? Would like to be able to "customize" once and install on multiple machines.

[zerozero]

yes TW, it's xfce4.8

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apt-cache policy xfce4
xfce4:
  Installed: 4.8.0.2
  Candidate: 4.8.0.2
  Version table:
 *** 4.8.0.2 0
        500 http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/ testing/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


[rdonnelly]

Omg must have missed this, reallt glad to see more and more stuff based on Debian.
Cant go wrong with the updated update manager more updated towards Debian.

Are you talking about the "Update Pack Info"? Is this a safe way to update in LMDE now?

[DrTeeth]

Minor bug.

Software manager shows LibreOffice as not being installed when it was. I installed it from 'manager and expected a version increase, but it stayed at 3.3.2.

DrT

[GeneC]

I am thinking this is a bug in the new LMDE 201108 RC 64bit.

I dont believe that fsck (disk check) is running on boot as it should.

Reason I believe its so, is when I run Clonezilla to make a clone of my new LMDE 201108 RC 64bit partition. I get this error message (or something like it)

Clonezilla will stop.
Cannot clone this partion.
Its been restarted 26 times with no disk check.

This has never happened with my other two partitions (LMDE-SID, and OZ-Unity).

I go into either of the OTHER two partitions, and then run FSCK on the LMDE 201108 RC 64bit partition, and then its ok, and I can clone it.
This has happened twice, so its no fluke.
It appears that this partition is never getting checked with FSCK.
I know there is somewhere I can check to turn it on, but need someone to point me to where.

Thanks.
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EDIT

I think I just answered my own question.
I found out the info is in "fstab"

Here is my original

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# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
proc   /proc   proc   defaults   0   0
# /dev/sda1
# UUID=b075c8bc-ce95-47d2-81b2-be0ed9e792d4   None   ext4   rw,errors=remount-ro   0   0
# /dev/sda3
UUID=77f88487-f637-4e04-a4da-e70e5abd2502   /   ext4   rw,errors=remount-ro   0   0
# /dev/sda4
# UUID=258B-EB7F   None   fat32   rw,errors=remount-ro   0   0
# /dev/sda2
UUID=dfb6e707-5554-4385-bd08-86b3ce830972   swap   swap   sw   0   0

Note-- I had previously commneted out (#) the lines of the other two partions that got put in here by a bug previously reported, and keeping those partitions from showing up in nautilus.

Now I found that to have fsck run on boot the Last numeral in the UUID line

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UUID=77f88487-f637-4e04-a4da-e70e5abd2502   /   ext4   rw,errors=remount-ro   0   0

Should be a (1) not a (0) to run fsck (checkdisk) on boot.

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UUID=77f88487-f637-4e04-a4da-e70e5abd2502   /   ext4   rw,errors=remount-ro   0   1

It is (0) by default in my new LMDE 201108 RC Gnome 64 bit install.
This appears to be a bug, as its set at (1) by default in my old LMDE installation...(from the OLD DVD, last Dec.)

Perhaps someone could check theirs and see if this is the case....

[Emryn]

I'd just like to express my thanks to the Mint Team for an excellent release. LMDE 201108 x64 has now become my primary OS. Loving it! Please keep up the great work.

Peter

[antiquexray]

First I'd like to say that I really want LMDE to work. I have a feeling it is going play a bigger and bigger part in Mint's future. However, I'm having a hard time with it. I realize this is an RC release, but still, here's my problem. I have an HP Netbook with a Broadcom wireless card so I know I have more work to do, but 3 times now I have loaded LMDE, used the tutorial to activate the Broadcom card, downloaded the updates (nearly 400 megs), and used the wireless tutorial again to activate the wirelss (one install takes quite awhile; 3 times seems like forever). Then, I download some of my favorite programs and tools (another 300 megs). Here's were my problem starts. All three times, after downloading favorites, my wireless stops working. My wireless card sees my wireless network but it will not connect. I've tried the wireless tutorial again, rebooted, jumped up and down, bargained, cursed, and in general had a fit; but no luck. It tries to connect, but never does. Kind of reminds of a girl I use to date that would lead me on, then at the very last moment...well, you know what I mean.

After a day of messing with it I gave up and reinstall Mint 11. At first I thought that debian and I were never going to be a couple, but I decided to wait for the final release before making the decision. I also thought it was a good idea to let the community know just what problems I'm having in case anyone else is having similar ones.

Thanks.

[tkteun]

Too bad it doesn't work for me.

The system I tried it on only accepts one sdram and the biggest I have at hand is 256 MiB.
When the live system is eventually ready there's still about 3 MiB left (with shell and top running).
I tried to make a swap partition, but apparently using that pendrivelinux installer works perfectly except for root privileges on applications except the installer.
usb-creator doesn't accept the image and unetbootin almost crashes my host system (stalled 5+ minutes before starting) and replaces the bootloader menu with another that also requires an amazing amount of patience before loading vmlinuz.
Then I eventually got into the root shell and ran mkswap and swapon for an amazing 4 GiB of swap space. The installer started quite fast, but when I clicked forward after selecting the / partition the installer disappeared.
When I tried to reopen the terminal the screen went black and num-lock doesn't respond anymore.

Too bad you don't support any installers except for the live application, even the one other option: compatibility mode doesn't save anything on RAM space.

[Eucalyptus]

Hi,

The download ISO are named:
- linuxmint-201108-xfce-64bit-rc.iso
- linuxmint-201108-gnome-64bit-rc.iso

It is not obvious to distinguish them as LinuxMint Debian. Would it be OK to add LMDE or Debian somewhere in the file name in future releases?

[ThistleWeb]

Hi,

The download ISO are named:
- linuxmint-201108-xfce-64bit-rc.iso
- linuxmint-201108-gnome-64bit-rc.iso

It is not obvious to distinguish them as LinuxMint Debian. Would it be OK to add LMDE or Debian somewhere in the file name in future releases?

The naming convention they have is that a numbered release is the Ubuntu base, the date as a number is Debian, as it's the date they take a snapshot of. It couldn't hurt to add LMDE in though.

[toto]

Comme le forum français est provisoirement en maintenance, j'en profite pour venir vous dire merci pour cette excellente distribution !
As the French forum is temporarily down for maintenance, I want to come and tell you thank you for this excellent version!

Clem,
The gnome desktop works 100% for me. Everything. No problems. I think this is the best LMDE to date. In my opinion it is no longer necessary to be based on anything but Debian. I have been hoping for this and here it is. Thank's everyone. As a user I'm very happy for Linux Mint and myself. I'm running the 32-bit on a 64-bit box.

Je viens d'Ubuntu (Hardy Heron puis Lucid Lynx), qui m'ont permis d'accéder au monde linuxien. Je n'aime pas changer, même de version L.T.S tous les trois ans, tout en n'ayant pas de mise à jour (comme celles de Firefox).
La stabilité de Debian m'a attiré, mais l'installation demande des connaissances que je n'ai pas, car la reconnaissance matérielle se faisait mal.
I come from Ubuntu (Hardy Heron then Lucid Lynx), who allowed me access to the world Linux user. I do not like change, even LTS version every three years, while not update (like Firefox).
The stability of Debian attracted me, but installation requires some knowledge that I did not because the hardware recognition is hurt.

J'attendais, moi aussi, de pourvoir accéder à Debian et aujourd'hui je suis comblé :
Sur mon Dell 9150 (qui a une configuration matérielle classique) tout a fonctionné très bien avec Linux Mint Debian-64bit !
L'installation n'a posé aucun problème, j'ai juste téléchargé puis glissé le pilote ATI.run en console pour le voir s'installer automatiquement.
I waited, too, to provide access to Debian and now I am fulfilled:
On my Dell 9150 (which has a conventional hardware configuration) everything worked very well with Debian-Linux Mint 64bit !
The installation was no problem, I just downloaded and drag the ATI.run driver console to view it install automatically.

Je pense que LMDE et moi allons faire un long chemin ensemble.
I think LMDE and I will go a long way together.

Translated whith Google ...

[viking777]

I finally got linuxmint-201108-gnome-64bit-rc.iso installed and configured, tracking incoming this time - even went for 64 bit and ext4 fs! Daring for me . I must say that with the exception of a bug already mentioned elsewhere (cant alter the settings in the login screen as root or regular user) everything went very smoothly (and the workround for that bug works well enough). The biggest problem I had was altering conkyrc to fit in with the new default wallpaper, my old file was almost completely invisible against the light grey background (I know it would have been far easier to change the wallpaper, but I learnt more this way ).

Anyway it is all very nice and will probably become my default distro eventually. I don't know how long I will track incoming though, it is far too boring, at the moment I have my old 32bit LMDE on 'testing' so I still get my daily update fix. I can see how it would appeal to those craving stability though and that is probably the majority.

A good piece of work - as ever .

[smiley_lauf]

First I'd like to say that I really want LMDE to work. I have a feeling it is going play a bigger and bigger part in Mint's future. However, I'm having a hard time with it. I realize this is an RC release, but still, here's my problem. I have an HP Netbook with a Broadcom wireless card so I know I have more work to do, but 3 times now I have loaded LMDE, used the tutorial to activate the Broadcom card, downloaded the updates (nearly 400 megs), and used the wireless tutorial again to activate the wirelss (one install takes quite awhile; 3 times seems like forever). Then, I download some of my favorite programs and tools (another 300 megs). Here's were my problem starts. All three times, after downloading favorites, my wireless stops working. My wireless card sees my wireless network but it will not connect. I've tried the wireless tutorial again, rebooted, jumped up and down, bargained, cursed, and in general had a fit; but no luck. It tries to connect, but never does. Kind of reminds of a girl I use to date that would lead me on, then at the very last moment...well, you know what I mean.

After a day of messing with it I gave up and reinstall Mint 11. At first I thought that debian and I were never going to be a couple, but I decided to wait for the final release before making the decision. I also thought it was a good idea to let the community know just what problems I'm having in case anyone else is having similar ones.

Thanks.

This is like reliving the days of linux 7-8 years ago; I have also encountered issues with LMDE, so I keep away from this release until it is as good as or better than LM 11 (Ubuntu-based). For someone who does not know how to fix things this release will just be nightmare experience. However, I like the idea of making Debian accessible to the masses- so kudos to the developers for thinking out of the box here; I have used MEPIS (Debian through and through)--a very solid and friendly Debian that relies on stable release. Here, LMDe is breaking the barrier by having the near-bleeding edge of Debian for common user. I hope they get it right, because if they do, Ubuntu will need a new cult following.

[clem]

Going through the list of issues.... I just wanted to thank everyone for their feedback

[ukbrian]

There's a problem with dependencies when trying to install Openshot with Synaptic on the new linuxmint-201108-xfce-32bit-rc.iso.
I have an old install of the first Xfce with Openshot installed OK.
I even tried to do a fresh install using the first Xfce linuxmint-xfce-201104-dvd-32bit.iso but even that fails now.

[fetterchefkoch]

Am I the only one who has problem with the link? I can't open http://blog.linuxmint.com/. Is the server down at the moment?