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by **GeneC** on Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:26 pm

OK! Thanks.

In any event I am grateful they catch these things first.. :wink:

Talk to you later...

by **craigevil** on Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:11 pm

xorg is more or less safe to upgrade now, unless of course you are using either fglrx or nvidia drivers

Code: Select all: The following packages will be REMOVED: gcj-4.4-base gcj-4.4-jre-lib libgcj10 The following NEW packages will be installed: libxcb-dri2-0 The following packages will be upgraded: ca-certificates cpp-4.4 cups-pdf debian-faq fakeroot ffmpeg g++-4.4 gcc-4.4 gcc-4.4-base gnupg-agent google-chrome-stable hddtemp ifupdown java-common kcheckers libavcodec53 libavdevice53 libavfilter2 libavformat53 libavutil51 libcairo-perl libedit2 libevent-1.4-2 libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx libglapi-mesa libglu1-mesa libgmp10 libgmpxx4ldbl libgnutls-dev libgnutls-openssl27 libgnutls26 libgnutlsxx27 libgtk-3-0 libgtk-3-common libijs-0.35 libmime-types-perl libnss3-1d libpostproc51 libselinux1 libsepol1 libstdc++6-4.4-dev libswscale2 nethack-common nethack-console nethack-qt nethack-x11 python-dateutil python-reportbug reportbug rsyslog tor traceroute udisks usbutils vidalia virtualbox virtualbox-qt xserver-common xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-geode xserver-xorg-video-i128 xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware xserver-xorg-video-voodoo xul-ext-torbutton 94 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 3 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0 B/129 MB of archives. After this operation, 51.0 MB disk space will be freed.

by **Brian49** on Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:06 pm

craigevil wrote:xorg is more or less safe to upgrade now

Sadly that isn't the case on my system; if I go to upgrade any of the packages shown as having updates available, Synaptic tells me that I would have to uninstall xserver-xorg, which I believe would make it impossible to load my desktop. This has been the case for several days. I don't have any proprietary drivers installed. Tracking SID.

by **craigevil** on Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:13 am

Brian49 wrote:
craigevil wrote:xorg is more or less safe to upgrade now

Sadly that isn't the case on my system; if I go to upgrade any of the packages shown as having updates available, Synaptic tells me that I would have to uninstall xserver-xorg, which I believe would make it impossible to load my desktop. This has been the case for several days. I don't have any proprietary drivers installed. Tracking SID.

1) stop using Synaptic for big upgrades like Xorg/KDE/Gnome
2) Use either apt-get or aptitude

apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -yd

by **Brian49** on Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:28 am

I don't wish to do a dist-upgrade; I'm staying with Gnome 2. When I run apt-get upgrade from the terminal, it informs me that all those xserver packages are being kept back. Do the latest xserver upgrades involve a dist-upgrade of other major packages? There's no message to that effect, whatever tool I use to check upgrades.

by **wayne128** on Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:58 am

Postby wayne128 on Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:58 pm Trying du on Debian Sid gnome.

got these bugs, so just take a rest and hold on.
of course Sparc bug does not interest me as mine is amd_64.

Code: Select all: Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done serious bugs of libsasl2-2 (2.1.24~rc1.dfsg1+cvs2011-05-23-4 -> 2.1.24~rc1.dfsg1+cvs2011-05-23-6) <marked as done in some version> #638045 - warning: xsasl_cyrus_server_get_mechanism_list: no mechanism available (Fixed: postfix/2.8.4-1) critical bugs of gnome-settings-daemon (2.30.2-3 -> 2.30.2-4) <unfixed> #638817 - gnome-settings-daemon crashes on startup, errors on libnotify serious bugs of libgail-common (2.24.5-3 -> 2.24.5-4) <unfixed> #636536 - multiarch enabled libgail breaks libgnome2 serious bugs of libnetfilter-conntrack3 (-> 0.9.1-1) <unfixed> #613590 - Bus error on Sparc architecures (conntrackd) Summary: libgail-common(1 bug), libsasl2-2(1 bug), libnetfilter-conntrack3(1 bug), gnome-settings-daemon(1 bug) Are you sure you want to install/upgrade the above packages? [Y/n/?/...] n

Few days later, 6 sept,
DU succeeded

Code: Select all: root@debian:/home/wayne# apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. root@debian:/home/wayne# uname -r 3.0.0-1-amd64

wayne@debian:~$ apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-core:
Installed: 2:1.11.0-1
Candidate: 2:1.11.0-1
Version table:
*** 2:1.11.0-1 0
500 http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
wayne@debian:~$ apt-cache policy xorg
xorg:
Installed: 1:7.6+8
Candidate: 1:7.6+8
Version table:
*** 1:7.6+8 0
500 http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
wayne@debian:~$

by **zerozero** on Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:07 am

Brian, sorry if this comes as harsh (it's not my intention) but you can not stay with gnome2, at least within LMDE (and debian testing or sid for that matter)
gnome2 is dead, all major distros are sifting to gnome3, and not following that is only going to cause you major breakages;

of course that this xorg issue is not related with the gnome2/gnome3 transition, but in rolling releases you should dist-upgrade always to keep all the system up-to-date, otherwise you are going to face problems with versions mismatch;

the other only realistic approach you have (if you really want to stay with gnome2) is to disable all sources.list, but be aware that in that case you will have a frozen system, no updates, no security fixes, nothing

by **Brian49** on Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:57 am

zerozero - I hear you. I may end up switching to Xfce, but meanwhile I intend to go on enjoying my Gnome 2 desktop for as long as I can.

by **GeneC** on Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:36 am

Things have been very stable here in SID .
Full DU with no problems.

VLC and (32) xorg packages being kept back.

Code: Select all: Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages have been kept back: vlc vlc-nox vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-i128 xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware xserver-xorg-video-voodoo 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded.

by **TheGreatSudoku** on Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:16 pm

Actually I have the same xorg-hell in apt that I do in synaptic:

Code: Select all: sudoku@amitabha ~ $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: dpkg-ruby linux-headers-3.0-4.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64 linux-headers-liquorix-amd64 linux-image-3.0-4.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64 linux-image-liquorix-amd64 xfce4-notifyd The following packages have been kept back: gnome-utils libwine-openal-unstable vlc vlc-nox vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-vesa The following packages will be upgraded: apache2.2-bin apturl apturl-common chromium-browser chromium-browser-l10n chromium-codecs-ffmpeg cpp-4.6 f-spot g++-4.6 gcc-4.6 gcc-4.6-base gir1.2-gtk-2.0 gtk2-engines-murrine gtk2-engines-pixbuf gtk2-engines-xfce ifupdown lib32gcc1 lib32stdc++6 libaudiofile0 libdpkg-ruby1.8 libdvbpsi7 libfluidsynth1 libgail-common libgail18 libgcc1 libgfortran3 libgnomeui-0 libgnomeui-common libgomp1 libgpod-common libgpod4 libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-common libquadmath0 libstdc++6 libstdc++6-4.6-dev linux-headers-2.6-liquorix-amd64 linux-image-2.6-liquorix-amd64 ristretto tzdata xfce4 xfce4-battery-plugin xfce4-dict xfce4-fsguard-plugin xfce4-goodies xfce4-indicator-plugin xfce4-session xfce4-timer-plugin xfce4-utils xfdesktop4 xfdesktop4-data xfwm4 xserver-common 54 upgraded, 6 newly installed, 0 to remove and 12 not upgraded. Need to get 120 MB of archives. After this operation, 180 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

I use Synaptic as my update method of choice, and in my experience it is quite synonymous with apt. It's actually been quite a long time since I've run into an upgrade situation that Synaptic couldn't handle but apt could. Much as your results indicate, Xorg and vlc appear to be in a state of "busticated-ness" right now.

by **GeneC** on Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:49 am

Todays DU wants to remove things, so I am holding back for a bit.

Code: Select all: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg libasound2-plugins libavcodec53 libavformat53 libavutil51 libpostproc51 libswscale2 libxine1-ffmpeg libxine1-plugins vlc vlc-nox vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse The following NEW packages will be installed: libavcodec-extra-53 libavutil-extra-51 libpostproc-extra-52 The following packages have been kept back: upower xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-i128 xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware xserver-xorg-video-voodoo The following packages will be upgraded: libdvdnav4 libgnutls26 libntrack-qt4-1 libntrack0 libphonon4 libqt4-dbus libqt4-declarative libqt4-designer libqt4-gui libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-xml libqt4-xmlpatterns libqtcore4 libqtgui4 libssl1.0.0 libvisual-0.4-plugins libxine1 libxine1-bin libxine1-console libxine1-misc-plugins libxine1-x ntrack-module-libnl-0 openssl phonon 31 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 13 to remove and 33 not upgraded. Need to get 28.3 MB of archives. After this operation, 15.5 MB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

by **wayne128** on Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:24 am

no problem DU on Debian-Sid-gnome

wayne@debian:~$ apt-cache policy xorg
xorg:
Installed: 1:7.6+8
Candidate: 1:7.6+8
Version table:
*** 1:7.6+8 0
500 http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
wayne@debian:~$ apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-core:
Installed: 2:1.11.0-1
Candidate: 2:1.11.0-1
Version table:
*** 2:1.11.0-1 0
500 http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
wayne@debian:~$ uname -r
3.0.0-1-amd64

by **wayne128** on Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:34 am

try DU on LMDE-Sid-xfce,

had upower bug, just hold on for a while

Code: Select all: Reading package lists... Done Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages have been kept back: mint-flashplugin vlc vlc-nox vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-i128 xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware xserver-xorg-video-voodoo The following packages will be upgraded: alsa-utils binutils cpp-4.6 curl exo-utils file fuse fuse-utils g++-4.6 gcc-4.6 gcc-4.6-base gir1.2-json-1.0 libasound2 libc-bin libc-dev-bin libc6 libc6-dev libc6-i686 libcurl3 libcurl3-gnutls libdvdnav4 libdvdread4 libexo-1-0 libexo-common libfuse2 libgcc1 libgfortran3 libgnutls26 libgomp1 libgpg-error0 libgtop2-7 libgtop2-common libjack0 libjson-glib-1.0-0 libmagic1 libnss-mdns libqt4-dbus libqt4-network libqt4-xml libqtcore4 libqtgui4 libquadmath0 librsvg2-2 librsvg2-common libssl1.0.0 libstdc++6 libstdc++6-4.6-dev libtracker-client-0.10-0 libtracker-sparql-0.10-0 libupower-glib1 libvdpau1 libvisual-0.4-plugins libwpd-0.9-9 locales mint-artwork-xfce multiarch-support notification-daemon ntfs-3g openssh-client openssl poppler-data python-decorator python-openssl system-tools-backends ttf-sazanami-gothic ttf-sazanami-mincho unetbootin unetbootin-translations update-inetd upower 70 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 38 not upgraded. Need to get 81.4 MB of archives. After this operation, 2,134 kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y ******************************** Fetched 58.3 MB in 1min 6s (875 kB/s) Retrieving bug reports... Done Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done serious bugs of upower (0.9.12-1 -> 0.9.13-1) <unfixed> #641015 - upower: depends on libimobiledevice2 from experimental [amd64] Summary: upower(1 bug) Are you sure you want to install/upgrade the above packages? [Y/n/?/...] n

by **GeneC** on Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:09 pm

Todays Nvidia upgrade is really a "down-grade"?

Commit Log for Mon Sep 12 07:13:52 2011

Upgraded the following packages:
libgl1-nvidia-alternatives (280.13-5) to 280.13.really.275.28-1
libgl1-nvidia-alternatives-ia32 (280.13-5) to 280.13.really.275.28-1
libgl1-nvidia-glx (280.13-5) to 280.13.really.275.28-1
libgl1-nvidia-glx-ia32 (280.13-5) to 280.13.really.275.28-1
libglx-nvidia-alternatives (280.13-5) to 280.13.really.275.28-1
nvidia-alternative (280.13-5) to 280.13.really.275.28-1
nvidia-glx (280.13-5) to 280.13.really.275.28-1
nvidia-kernel-dkms (280.13-5) to 280.13.really.275.28-1
nvidia-vdpau-driver (280.13-5) to 280.13.really.275.28-1
nvidia-vdpau-driver-ia32 (280.13-5) to 280.13.really.275.28-1
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia (280.13-5) to 280.13.really.275.28-1

Thought this was to "fix" the xorg packages being held back problem, but they are still held back.?
Strange stuff! :shock:

Code: Select all: Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg libasound2-plugins libavcodec53 libavformat53 libavutil51 libpostproc51 libswscale2 libxine1-ffmpeg libxine1-plugins vlc vlc-nox vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse The following NEW packages will be installed: libavcodec-extra-53 libavutil-extra-51 libpostproc-extra-52 The following packages have been kept back: xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-i128 xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware xserver-xorg-video-voodoo The following packages will be upgraded: libupower-glib1 libxine1 libxine1-bin libxine1-console libxine1-misc-plugins libxine1-x upower 7 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 13 to remove and 32 not upgraded. Need to get 5,433 kB of archives. After this operation, 14.7 MB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

by **GeneC** on Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:37 pm

GeneC wrote:
Code: Select all
Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg libasound2-plugins libavcodec53 libavformat53 libavutil51 libpostproc51 libswscale2 libxine1-ffmpeg libxine1-plugins vlc vlc-nox vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse The following NEW packages will be installed: libavcodec-extra-53 libavutil-extra-51 libpostproc-extra-52 The following packages have been kept back: xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-i128 xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware xserver-xorg-video-voodoo The following packages will be upgraded: libupower-glib1 libxine1 libxine1-bin libxine1-console libxine1-misc-plugins libxine1-x upower 7 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 13 to remove and 32 not upgraded. Need to get 5,433 kB of archives. After this operation, 14.7 MB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y

Well, I went ahead and did the full DU.
My sound, video, flash, et still work with the removals.
But VLC is gone. No biggie.
I am sure it will be back in a couple of days.

All the xorg stuff is still held back.

Code: Select all: Reading package lists... Done Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages have been kept back: xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-i128 xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware xserver-xorg-video-voodoo 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 32 not upgraded.

by **Brian49** on Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:49 pm

We still don't seem to know what exactly is going on with the xorg stuff. Any likely explanations, please? Many thanks.

by **GeneC** on Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:00 pm

Brian49 wrote:We still don't seem to know what exactly is going on with the xorg stuff. Any likely explanations, please? Many thanks.

Hey Brian

Just that xorg and Nvidia dont get along right now.

From APTOSID Forum

http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=1698&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

I think Xorg is waiting for Nvidia to fix it,
and Nvidia is waiting for Xorg to fix it... :lol:

by **Brian49** on Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:24 pm

That's enlightening, thanks, although a bit rough on people like me who don't use any proprietary drivers.

by **craigevil** on Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:02 pm

If you use the 'free' video drivers like radeon, radeonhd, nouveau, etc then no problem.

If you normally use the Nvidia or ATI proprietary drivers you are out of luck, and waiting for who knows how long for nvidia/ati to release a new driver that works with the new xorg.

Either way unless you have something on hold nothing is held back during an apt-get dist-upgrade. I d-u daily, todays d-u for me:

Code: Select all: The following packages will be upgraded: apt apt-doc apt-utils clamtk coreutils cups-pdf google-talkplugin k3b k3b-data libc-bin libc-dev-bin libc6 libc6-dev libc6-i686 libk3b6 libk3b6-extracodecs locales multiarch-support opera-next python-mutagen tor tzdata xul-ext-torbutton 23 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 55.5 MB of archives. After this operation, 7,246 kB of additional disk space will be used.

Xorg and friends were updated last week with no problems since my laptop is ancient and uses the radeon driver.
Card: ATI Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] X.Org: 1.11.0 driver: radeon Resolution: 1024x768@60.0hz
GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI R100 (RV200 4C57) AGP 4x x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL GLX Version: 1.3 Mesa 7.11

by **Brian49** on Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:50 pm

craigevil wrote:If you use the 'free' video drivers like radeon, radeonhd, nouveau, etc then no problem

Sorry, you've lost me. To recap, I use the 'free' video drivers and five packages (xserver-xorg-core, xserver-xorg-input-kbd, xserver-xorg-input-mouse, xserver-xorg-video-radeon and xserver-xorg-video-vesa) continue to be held back on a 'normal' upgrade, as they have been for many weeks. On a dist-upgrade they aren't held back, but xserver-xorg would be removed, making it impossible to load the desktop.

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Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

Re: LMDE (Tracking SID, or other non-standard) BREAKAGES!

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