LMDE BREAKAGES - (Tracking SID!) -{CLOSED}

[wayne128]

Hi.

Todays kernel update broke my virtualbox. Seems like the kernel are missing some drivers for it. Just a heads up.

Best regards Jens.

Kernel update sometime does not trigger kernel header installation, as such virtualbox might fail.

Try install the kernel header,
use terminal and type uname -r to view your linux-kernel
just use synaptic search the corresponding headers, then install them.
after installation, reboot to your new kernel, virtualbox should work

have fun.

wayne@debian:~$ uname -r
3.0.0-2-amd64


wayne@debian:~$ apt-cache policy linux-headers-3.0.0-2-amd64
linux-headers-3.0.0-2-amd64:
Installed: 3.0.0-5
Candidate: 3.0.0-5
Version table:
*** 3.0.0-5 0
500 http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
wayne@debian:~$

my Debian-Sid-gnome is fully D.U
# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

[Brian49]

These five xserver packages are being held back again, on both apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade:

xserver-xorg, xserver-xorg-core, xserver-xorg-input-evdev, xserver-xorg-video-radeon and xserver-xorg-video-vesa


According to Synaptic, I could install them, but I would have to install half a ton of NVIDIA-related packages at the same time, which I don't need as my card is ATI.

[GeneC]

Full DU today.

libenchant1c2a is held back or it will remove "Thunderbird".

Something broke "alacarte" (Menu Editor) in the last week or so.
No longer able to edit menu.
Its still the same version of alacarte 0.13.2-2 thats in testing, so its some other package upgrade that broke it.

All in all things are good in SID land.

EDIT:
Let libenchant1c2a remove Thunderbird, then you can just re-install it.

[craigevil]

No issues here and nothing held back.

Today's d-u for me

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The following packages will be upgraded:
  cpp-4.6 debian-goodies dictionaries-common g++-4.6 gcc-4.6 gcc-4.6-base gksu libgcc1 libgfortran3 libgomp1 libquadmath0
  libstdc++6 libstdc++6-4.6-dev python-pkg-resources
14 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
 

[gozer]

just updated today and gnome-control-center was removed. Attempting to add it back afterwards would result in removing most of the desktop...

[GeneC]

I am getting a gnome-control-center removed ..plus..

Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
evince
gnome-control-center
libnautilus-extension1
mint-meta-codecs
nautilus-actions
nautilus-gksu
nautilus-open-terminal
nautilus-share

The following NEW packages will be installed:

accountsservice gir1.2-gconf-2.0 gir1.2-gkbd-3.0 gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-1.0 gir1.2-mutter-3.0 gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0 gir1.2-panelapplet-4.0 gir1.2-polkit-1.0
gir1.2-telepathyglib-0.12 gir1.2-telepathylogger-0.2 gir1.2-totem-1.0 gir1.2-totem-plparser-1.0 gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0 gjs gnome-bluetooth gnome-icon-theme-symbolic
gnome-session-fallback gnome-shell gnome-themes-standard libaccountsservice0 libavahi-ui-gtk3-0 libdconf0 libgjs0b libglib2.0-bin libgnome-bluetooth8
libgnome-media-profiles-3.0-0 libgnomekbd7 libjs-jquery-ui libmozjs7d libmutter0 libnautilus-extension1a libpackagekit-glib2-14 libpanel-applet-4-0 libtelepathy-logger2
libtotem0 libyelp0 mutter-common xserver-xephyr yelp-xsl

The following packages will be upgraded:

apt apt-utils dictionaries-common evince-common file-roller gdm3 gnome-applets gnome-applets-data gnome-disk-utility gnome-media gnome-menus gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-power-manager gnome-session gnome-session-bin gnome-session-common gnome-settings-daemon gnome-user-guide gthumb-data gvfs gvfs-backends gvfs-bin libgdu-gtk0 libglib2.0-0 libglib2.0-data libgnome-menu2 libgnomekbd-common nautilus nautilus-data nautilus-sendto python-gmenu totem totem-common totem-mozilla totem-plugins yelp

37 upgraded, 39 newly installed, 8 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 70.2 MB of archives.
After this operation, 35.6 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

Looks like lots of Gnome 3 stuff coming down.
I know that nautilus-gksu (open as administrator) is broke in nautilus 3, I don't want to loose that quite yet.
Time to sit and wait.

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EDIT:
I just looked more carefully at the packages to be installed.

gnome-session-fallback
gnome-shell
gnome-themes-standard

Gnome SHELL to be installed??

[wyrdoak]

GeneC ------------------------

EDIT:
I just looked more carefully at the packages to be installed.

gnome-session-fallback
gnome-shell
gnome-themes-standard

Gnome SHELL to be installed??

Go for it! Then let us know how much fun you have. It will probably get to me from Debian testing before long.

[doktordave]

I got frisky the other day and decided to try sid on my other PC. Looks like it was just in time for gnome shell.

Actually, it's not bad... but it is a bit different. I'd never have figured that this old ATI card [Radeon 9600] would even run gnome shell, but it works so far. Both shell and fallback mode are going to take some getting used to, though.

[craigevil]

Gnome 3 is entering sid so be careful. Chances are it will be broken like Humpty Dumpty for the next few days at the very least.

Package gnome-shell

sid (unstable) (gnome): graphical shell for the GNOME desktop
3.0.2-5: amd64 armel hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips s390 sparc

[wayne128]

Thanks for the warnings.

Time to clone my Debian Sid and Testing partitions first.


Just capture the details and post here as future reference

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Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  capplets-data libbrasero-media0 libevince3 libnautilus-extension1
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  accountsservice apg cheese-common gir1.2-gconf-2.0 gir1.2-gkbd-3.0
  gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-1.0 gir1.2-mutter-3.0 gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0
  gir1.2-panelapplet-4.0 gir1.2-polkit-1.0 gir1.2-telepathyglib-0.12
  gir1.2-telepathylogger-0.2 gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0 gjs
  gnome-control-center-data gnome-icon-theme-symbolic gnome-session-fallback
  gnome-shell gnome-themes-standard gstreamer0.10-gconf
  gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio gtk2-engines javascript-common libaccountsservice0
  libasound2-plugins libbrasero-media3-1 libchamplain-0.12-0
  libchamplain-gtk-0.12-0 libcheese-gtk20 libcheese1 libclutter-gst-1.0-0
  libclutter-gtk-1.0-0 libclutter-imcontext-0.1-0 libcluttergesture-0.0.2-0
  libdconf0 libevince3-3 libfolks-telepathy25 libfolks25 libgeocode-glib0
  libgjs0b libglib2.0-bin libgnome-bluetooth8 libgnome-control-center1
  libgnome-media-profiles-3.0-0 libgnomekbd7 libgucharmap-2-90-7 libjs-jquery
  libjs-jquery-ui libmatroska5 libmutter0 libmx-1.0-2 libnautilus-extension1a
  libpackagekit-glib2-14 libpanel-applet-4-0 libtelepathy-logger2 libyelp0
  mousetweaks mutter-common pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat
  pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-utils rtkit telepathy-logger
  wwwconfig-common yelp-xsl
The following packages will be upgraded:
  alacarte apt apt-utils brasero brasero-common dictionaries-common dpkg
  dpkg-dev empathy empathy-common evince evince-common gdm3 gnome-applets
  gnome-applets-data gnome-bluetooth gnome-control-center gnome-media
  gnome-menus gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-power-manager gnome-session
  gnome-session-bin gnome-session-common gnome-settings-daemon
  gnome-user-guide gvfs gvfs-backends iceweasel libaudio2 libdpkg-perl libgdu0
  libglib-perl libglib2.0-0 libglib2.0-data libgnome-menu2 libgnomekbd-common
  libio-socket-ssl-perl libmozjs7d libtelepathy-glib0 libvlc5 libvlccore4
  nautilus nautilus-data nautilus-sendto nautilus-sendto-empathy python-gmenu
  vlc vlc-data vlc-nox vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse xulrunner-7.0 yelp
55 upgraded, 66 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 80.4 MB/121 MB of archives.
After this operation, 20.4 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
Abort.

[GeneC]

Well

I took the jump.
Did a full DU.
Went KINDA ok.
I am running Gnome 3 in"fallback mode" right now.
Gnome Shell would not start for some reason?
Menu editor wont work.
Lost nautilus-gksu (open as administrator) plugin.

Any one have any ideas how I can get the Shell?
I am running compiz and emerald.
Lost the compiz fusion icon.

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gene@zordon ~ $ inxi -F
System:    Host zordon Kernel 3.0.0-6.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Distro Linux Mint Debian Edition
CPU:       Quad core AMD Phenom II X4 955 (-MCP-) cache 2048 KB flags (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm) bmips 25718.9
           Clock Speeds: (1) 800.00 MHz (2) 800.00 MHz (3) 800.00 MHz (4) 800.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card nVidia GF104 [GeForce GTX 460] X.Org 1.11.1 Res: 1680x1050@50.0hz
           GLX Renderer GeForce GTX 460/PCI/SSE2 GLX Version 4.2.0 NVIDIA 285.05.09 Direct Rendering Yes
Audio:     Card-1 ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver HDA Intel BusID: 00:14.2
           Card-2 nVidia GF104 High Definition Audio Controller driver HDA Intel BusID: 01:00.1
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Version 1.0.24
Network:   Card Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller driver r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI at port e800 BusID: 04:00.0
Disks:     HDD Total Size: 322.0GB (3.8% used) 1: /dev/sda ST3320613AS 320.1GB
           2: USB /dev/sde CardReader_SD 2.0GB
Partition: ID:/ size: 17G used: 4.9G (32%) fs: ext4 ID:swap-1 size: 0.00GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 34.0C mobo: 39.0C gpu: 0.0:45C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 988 sys-1: 1149
Info:      Processes 160 Uptime 16 min Memory 526.9/5985.3MB Runlevel 2 Client Shell inxi 1.4.23


Try again tomorrow.

[wayne128]

Well

I took the jump.
Did a full DU.
Went KINDA ok.
I am running Gnome 3 in"fallback mode" right now.
Gnome Shell would not start for some reason?
Menu editor wont work.
Lost nautilus-gksu (open as administrator) plugin.

Any one have any ideas how I can get the Shell?
I am running compiz and emerald.
Lost the compiz fusion icon.

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gene@zordon ~ $ inxi -F
System:    Host zordon Kernel 3.0.0-6.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Distro Linux Mint Debian Edition
CPU:       Quad core AMD Phenom II X4 955 (-MCP-) cache 2048 KB flags (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm) bmips 25718.9
           Clock Speeds: (1) 800.00 MHz (2) 800.00 MHz (3) 800.00 MHz (4) 800.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card nVidia GF104 [GeForce GTX 460] X.Org 1.11.1 Res: 1680x1050@50.0hz
           GLX Renderer GeForce GTX 460/PCI/SSE2 GLX Version 4.2.0 NVIDIA 285.05.09 Direct Rendering Yes
Audio:     Card-1 ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver HDA Intel BusID: 00:14.2
           Card-2 nVidia GF104 High Definition Audio Controller driver HDA Intel BusID: 01:00.1
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Version 1.0.24
Network:   Card Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller driver r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI at port e800 BusID: 04:00.0
Disks:     HDD Total Size: 322.0GB (3.8% used) 1: /dev/sda ST3320613AS 320.1GB
           2: USB /dev/sde CardReader_SD 2.0GB
Partition: ID:/ size: 17G used: 4.9G (32%) fs: ext4 ID:swap-1 size: 0.00GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 34.0C mobo: 39.0C gpu: 0.0:45C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 988 sys-1: 1149
Info:      Processes 160 Uptime 16 min Memory 526.9/5985.3MB Runlevel 2 Client Shell inxi 1.4.23


Try again tomorrow.

My attempt on Debian-Sid-gnome ( Not LMDE)

Retrieving bug reports... Done
Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done
grave bugs of gnome-shell (-> 3.0.2-5) <unfixed>
#619196 - dependency on libgjs4b no strict enough
serious bugs of javascript-common (-> <unfixed>
#474913 - javascript-common overrides /javascript globally in lighttpd
Summary:
gnome-shell(1 bug), javascript-common(1 bug)
Are you sure you want to install/upgrade the above packages? [Y/n/?/...] n

and checking the bug report gave
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=619196

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To: 619196@bugs.debian.org, Guido Günther
 <agx@sigxcpu.org>
Subject: dependency on libgjs4b no strict enough
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:45:28 +0200

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

This should no longer be an issue as libgjs now embeds the mozjs version in the
package name.

So I hold for a while..

[wayne128]

After clone Debian Sid gnome.

Decided to take the risk and ignore bug reports, including
grave bugs of gnome-shell (-> 3.0.2-5) <unfixed>
#619196 - dependency on libgjs4b no strict enough

DU.. What a pleasant surprise! it survives


root@debian:/home/wayne# apt-cache policy gnome-shell
gnome-shell:
Installed: 3.0.2-5
Candidate: 3.0.2-5
Version table:
*** 3.0.2-5 0
500 http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

root@debian:/home/wayne# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.


Another surprise:
All old kernel 32, all the way till 3.0.0-1 will boot to old gnome2.

and only the latest kernel 3.0.0-2 boots to new gnome shell
may be my ati card is fast enough, it does not look bad compared to what I read. anyway, time to play.

another nice , pleasant surprise: very nice fonts rendering

[GeneC]

Well, a couple new updates this morning.

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Commit Log for Sat Oct 15 06:07:18 2011


Upgraded the following packages:
alsa-utils (1.0.24.2-3) to 1.0.24.2-4
gucharmap (1:3.0.1-1) to 1:3.2.0-1
initscripts (2.88dsf-13.11) to 2.88dsf-13.12
libasound2-plugins (1.0.24-2+b1) to 1.0.24-3
libgucharmap-2-90-7 (1:3.0.1-1) to 1:3.2.0-1
libregexp-assemble-perl (0.35-1) to 0.35-2
sysv-rc (2.88dsf-13.11) to 2.88dsf-13.12
sysvinit (2.88dsf-13.11) to 2.88dsf-13.12
sysvinit-utils (2.88dsf-13.11) to 2.88dsf-13.12
wpasupplicant (0.7.3-4) to 0.7.3-5


but still cant boot into "gnome shell", I get booted back to log-in screen, and have to choose "fallback mode".
Everything works fine there, but its kind of bland, and no customization of panels(one top and bottom). Bottom one is a pain as it interferes with AWN.
Tried disabling Emerald and Compiz, but that's no help.



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[wayne128]

I noticed one issue:
USB drive , when plugged in , does not automatically get detected.
nautilus, fdisk, gparted all cannot detect USB drive.

If switched to fallback mode, all is well.


Today try D.U. , some new package came in. fully DU.
USB drive work now.
May be because of gnome-control-center.

e# apt-cache policy gnome-control-center
gnome-control-center:
Installed: 1:3.0.2-3
Candidate: 1:3.0.2-3
Version table:
*** 1:3.0.2-3 0
500 http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


Notice another issue, by reading from aptosid forum,
iceweasel 7.0.1-3 segfaults on i386
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=645371

My iceweasel 7.0.1-3 for amd-64 is doing OK without the said issue.
Today DU has 7.0.1-4 that resolved segfaults issue
# apt-cache policy iceweasel
iceweasel:
Installed: 7.0.1-4
Candidate: 7.0.1-4
Version table:
*** 7.0.1-4 0

[gcp]

WARNING: have fun with slow desktop again after upgrading to xorg-server (2:1.11.1.901-1)

If you use the xorg packages from the frickelplatz repository and upgrade to xorg 1.11.1.901-1,
you will have the slow desktop again.

The problem is NOT solved!

Hold the frickelplatz packages and wait for better days...

Debian changelog:
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/p ... /changelog

Fix possible with next Nvidia-Drivers:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthr ... ost2489924

[anticapitalista]

gcp - do you have any issues at all with the frickelplatz packages?

I ask as I have issues playing extremetuxracer and torcs (ie they don't play) when I used the frickelplatz packages, but no issue with those games when using latest xorg.
On the other hand without the frickelplatz packages I do get the slow desktop with some apps and browsing some sites.

[gcp]

gcp - do you have any issues at all with the frickelplatz packages?

I ask as I have issues playing extremetuxracer and torcs (ie they don't play) when I used the frickelplatz packages, but no issue with those games when using latest xorg.
On the other hand without the frickelplatz packages I do get the slow desktop with some apps and browsing some sites.

i installed extremetuxracer + torcs and can play it with no issues.
i tried the other installed games (Alien Arena, Nexuiz, OpenArena, Sauerbraten, Tremulous, Warsow)
and they are working fine.

My Nvidia-Card is a 9600 GT.
i am using the liquorix kernel (http://liquorix.net/).

If i try to start "NVIDIA X Server Settings" my computer locks up completely. I have to press the Reset-Button.
This does not happen with the original Xorg files.

[GeneC]

Just a note about xorg/nvidia. This is a big problem for most folks with Nvidia cards, but not all.
If your Nvidia card supports "trapezoidal acceleration" , you dont have this problem.
I am not real clear on what this all is, but this problem doesnt effect my card (GTX460).
Everthing is fine with me.

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gene@zordon ~ $ inxi -F
System:    Host zordon Kernel 3.0.0-6.dmz.1-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Distro Linux Mint Debian Edition
CPU:       Quad core AMD Phenom II X4 955 (-MCP-) cache 2048 KB flags (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm) bmips 25714.7
           Clock Speeds: (1) 800.00 MHz (2) 3200.00 MHz (3) 800.00 MHz (4) 800.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card nVidia GF104 [GeForce GTX 460] X.Org 1.11.1 Res: 1680x1050@50.0hz
           GLX Renderer GeForce GTX 460/PCI/SSE2 GLX Version 4.2.0 NVIDIA 285.05.09 Direct Rendering Yes


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gene@zordon ~ $ glxgears
62519 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12503.783 FPS
65117 frames in 5.0 seconds = 13023.218 FPS
63705 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12740.643 FPS
62855 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12570.893 FPS
64710 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12941.911 FPS
64887 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12977.400 FPS
63940 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12787.995 FPS
64624 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12924.647 FPS
64800 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12959.829 FPS



More info is available here, for those interested.

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthr ... e&t=166698

http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphp ... pic&t=1698

[anticapitalista]

I have an 8400 card that is affected.

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inxi -F
System:    Host: antiX1 Kernel: 3.0.0-6.dmz.1-liquorix-686 i686 (32 bit)
           Desktop Fluxbox 1.3.1 Distro: antiX-M11-base-686 Mutiny! Released:15 August 2011
Machine:   Mobo: MICRO-STAR INTERANTIONAL model: MS-7367 version: 1.0
           Bios: American Megatrends version: V3.3 date: 11/05/2007
CPU:       Dual core AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 svm)
           Clock Speeds: 1: 2194.583 MHz 2: 2194.583 MHz
Graphics:  Card: nVidia G98 [GeForce 8400 GS] X.Org: 1.11.1.901 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1280x1024@50.0hz
           GLX Renderer: GeForce 8400 GS/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW! GLX Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 285.05.09
Audio:     Card-1: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: HDA Intel Sound: ALSA ver: 1.0.24
           Card-2: Microsoft LifeCam VX-1000 driver: USB Audio
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 00:1d:92:80:80:86
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 480.1GB (23.7% used) 1: /dev/sda WDC_WD1600AAJS 160.0GB
           2: /dev/sdb ST3320620AS 320.1GB
Partition: ID: / size: 39G used: 13G (35%) fs: rootfs ID: / size: 39G used: 13G (35%) fs: ext4
           ID: swap-1 size: 1.09GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 45.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 45C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 82 Uptime: 1:26 Memory: 272.7/3040.7MB Client: Shell inxi: 1.7.24