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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby Gerd50 on Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:06 am

viking, gnome-utils is only a transition package and can be removed.
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Postby xircon on Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:20 am

Today's update to WICD lost my tray icon, fixed with the -t switch (not needed before). Still got 44 packages hanging around though.
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby zerozero on Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:57 am

i may have spoken to soon about the problems being solved with xserver/nvidia: i can't play full-screen flash vids (flashplayer crashes every time), i tried the 10.3, the 11.x flash v. and no-go;
is it just here, or can anyone else confirm this?
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby Gerd50 on Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:28 am

No problems here with flashplugin-nonfree 1:2.8.3 zerozero.
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby gavinhc on Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:32 am

zerozero, I updated to the nvidia drivers version 290 and xorg 1.11 last night and since then I haven't been able to get anything to play in Flash. Every site I've visited gives me a gray box where the flash element should be saying that the Flash plugin has crashed. I am using Flashplayer version 11 from the Mint repos.
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Postby viking777 on Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:58 am

zerozero wrote:i may have spoken to soon about the problems being solved with xserver/nvidia: i can't play full-screen flash vids (flashplayer crashes every time), i tried the 10.3, the 11.x flash v. and no-go;
is it just here, or can anyone else confirm this?


I have flashplayer 2.10.3 and with me it seems to depend on which page I go to. If I go here:

http://www.chemgapedia.de/vsengine/info ... flash.html

Everything works, even in full screen, exatly the same with the BBC weather site. But if I go to my googlemail home page the plugin crashes every time.

EDIT. Correction to that, the plugin crashes every time I try and do anything with Firefox. On Opera (my main browser) it works faultlessly everywhere.
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby pros on Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:26 pm

Updated nvidia drivers to 290, and flash is crashing continuously. Seems it is related to nvidia drivers because I'm pointing to latest (no Xorg upgrade)
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby GeneC on Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:49 pm

Nvidia 290 and Flash crash

More info here.(nVidia forums) :arrow: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=167698
A bug report had been filed.

Seems that some folks fixed it by reverting to Flash 10.
Dont know if that will work for all. :?:

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Re: flashplugin crashes when using ONLY nvidia 290.03
The Bug is only under the 11 Version of Flash.
Just use this Version:
http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/fl...6_64.so.tar.gz
Simply Replace the old one with this and everything will run fine.

It helped many Friends of mine, so try it out.


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Re: flashplugin crashes when using ONLY nvidia 290.03
I can confirm, flash 10.0 r45 works without problems with driver 290.03


Use at your own risk! :shock:
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby Chris M on Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:04 pm

viewtopic.php?f=141&t=67502&start=960#p458899

This just happened to me when the kernel went to 3 (32-bit), but I recall that this has been an issue before with my Intel chipset laptop.

Is there a way to deal with this issue? Specifically, is there a way to force a recompilation of the video driver?

For a quick fix for those using proprietary drivers, what would happen if you removed the latest proprietary driver, and used/installed the free driver?

I would love to get this fix nailed nailed down, because I'm sure it will happen again.

I will log back in and let you know if I have a problem with my Intel driver and Flash again after updating. I don't think I've had a problem with the nouveau (free nVidia) driver. But I'll check it again.

Edit: OK Gene

No problems with Intel graphics and Flash. I'll check the nouveau driver. If there's a problem, I'll report it. No report means no problem.
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby pros on Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:28 pm

pros wrote:Updated nvidia drivers to 290, and flash is crashing continuously. Seems it is related to nvidia drivers because I'm pointing to latest (no Xorg upgrade)

Reverting nvidia to 280 (testing) driver resolves this issue...
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby viking777 on Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:29 pm

Hey guys, maybe you missed my edited post earlier so here we go again. For me this is not a Flash problem and it is not an Nvidia problem, it is a browser problem. Opera works, and Firefox (therefore presumably Iceweasel also) does not work. I have no idea about Chrome/Chromium because for me neither of these ever work anyway.

So I guess what you need to wait for is an update to FF, absolutely no point in chasing flash versions or anything else imho.
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Postby wyrdoak on Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:40 pm

Chrome's Flash is working for me.
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Postby Chris M on Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:15 pm

viking777 wrote:Hey guys, maybe you missed my edited post earlier so here we go again. For me this is not a Flash problem and it is not an Nvidia problem, it is a browser problem. Opera works, and Firefox (therefore presumably Iceweasel also) does not work. I have no idea about Chrome/Chromium because for me neither of these ever work anyway.

So I guess what you need to wait for is an update to FF, absolutely no point in chasing flash versions or anything else imho.


viking, I don't know what FF version you're on, but you may want to try a manual FF upgrade (if not on 7.0.1 already). See this thread: viewtopic.php?f=141&t=76048&p=454351#p454351

For anyone with nvidia issues, there's no problem with nouveau on my 32-bit box.
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby viking777 on Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:39 pm

viking, I don't know what FF version you're on, but you may want to try a manual FF upgrade (if not on 7.0.1 already). See this thread: viewtopic.php?f=141&t=76048&p=454351#p454351


Chris M.

I followed your advice and updated to 7.0.1 but flash still doesn't work with nvidia. It isn't a problem for me though because I use Opera 99.9% of the time and it works fine.

Edit. Perhaps this is the reason:

For your safety, Firefox has disabled your outdated version of Flash. Please upgrade to the latest version.


That comes from here:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/

I'll sort it out tomorrow.
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Postby zerozero on Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:07 pm

i should have mention before that i'm on 64bit, maybe that makes a difference (or not):
FF (5.0-1) with Flash 10.3 d162: everything works fine as long as i don't try fullscreen, then crashes :lol:
iceweasel (7.0.1-2) with Flash 11.0 r1: unusable (gmail crashes as soon as loads)
opera (11.52) lists both v. as available and works fine;
it's 2a.m. so further digging will have to wait.
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby gavinhc on Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:40 pm

viking777 wrote:So I guess what you need to wait for is an update to FF, absolutely no point in chasing flash versions or anything else imho.

I'm using the Aurora (Firefox/Iceweasel 9) builds from the mozilla.debian.net repo and all Flash elements are showing for me as having crashed. There is a new build pushed to the repo every Friday, so hopefully this issue will patched quickly and it will come down the pipeline in the next couple aurora updates. Until then, I will just have to fire up Opera or Chromium for the few occasions I want to watch a flash video.
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Postby viking777 on Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:40 am

mozilla-flashplugin has been updated this morning, but it hasn't made any difference to the flash problem.

In my own case, by experimenting with Firefox 7 I have actually made the situation worse, it didn't cure the flash problem so I decided to unistall it and revert to v5 from the repos - this won't even start now! Try to start it from a terminal and it just moves to another line, no browser ever appears and neither do any error messages?

So I installed iceweasel instead. This works fine except for the flash problem. I really don't mind which one I have installed as they are only backup browsers for Opera.
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby Lippy on Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:07 am

viking777 wrote:mozilla-flashplugin has been updated this morning, but it hasn't made any difference to the flash problem.

In my own case, by experimenting with Firefox 7 I have actually made the situation worse, it didn't cure the flash problem so I decided to unistall it and revert to v5 from the repos - this won't even start now! Try to start it from a terminal and it just moves to another line, no browser ever appears and neither do any error messages?

About Firefox 5 not starting after you reverted it, it's probably your profile that has become incompatible with it. Firefox will read a profile from an older version fine and it will convert it so it's compatible with the new version. The same is not true the other way round. Creating a fresh profile should solve the problem, but it might be too much hassle as you will lose your user settings and extensions. Once a more up to date version of Firefox appears in the Mint repos, it should work fine with your old profile again once you switch back to it from Iceweasel. :)
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby viking777 on Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:54 am

Lippy wrote:About Firefox 5 not starting after you reverted it, it's probably your profile that has become incompatible with it. Firefox will read a profile from an older version fine and it will convert it so it's compatible with the new version. The same is not true the other way round. Creating a fresh profile should solve the problem, but it might be too much hassle as you will lose your user settings and extensions. Once a more up to date version of Firefox appears in the Mint repos, it should work fine with your old profile again once you switch back to it from Iceweasel. :)


Thanks lippy that would probably explain it. I will probably just stick with Iceweasel now anyway. Apart from the name I can't tell them apart.
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Re: LMDE BREAKAGES - tracking Testing - read here first-6/o

Postby zerozero on Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:51 pm

has anyone here heard about dependencies hell?
Adding gnome-shell makes 1 non-depending packages uninstallable on i386: gnome-shell

checking today the status of the shell http://release.debian.org/migration/tes ... nome-shell
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