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Dial-up modem config. easier in Mint for noobs?

Postby lexrexus on Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:09 am

Dial-up modem setup easier in Mint for noobs?
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Re: Dial-up modem config. easier in Mint for noobs?

Postby AlbertP on Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:59 am

You can install gnome-ppp, a dial-up program, from software manager without needing internet connection on most Mints.

But then you might still need a driver for your modem. Ubuntu have chosen to blacklist the snd-intel8x0m module used by a lot of modems in older computers because it used to cause problems. Those problems are solved but Ubuntu have never removed the blacklist. Mint, being based on Ubuntu, has the same problem. If your modem needs this driver, you can remove its blacklist:
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gksudo /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf


Fairly recent modems may also need the Smartlink driver. Some modems even need both snd-intel8x0m and Smartlink. You can install the Smartlink modem driver from the Additional Drivers program when you're connected to internet. When the modem driver is not shown in Additional Drivers (after removing blacklist snd-intel8x0m & rebooting), you don't need it.
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Re: Dial-up modem config. easier in Mint for noobs?

Postby lexrexus on Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:39 am

Thank you for your reply.
Will probably stay w/ubuntu - I found a link to download a ready driver for using my Intel 536ep winmodem in ubuntu 10.04!
My original question didn't give enough info.... . :D
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Re: Dial-up modem config. easier in Mint for noobs?

Postby AlbertP on Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:23 am

If it works with Ubuntu 10.04, it also works with Mint 9 as Mint 9 is compatible with Ubuntu 10.04.
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Re: Dial-up modem config. easier in Mint for noobs?

Postby OldManHook on Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:25 am

lexrexus wrote:Thank you for your reply.
Will probably stay w/ubuntu - I found a link to download a ready driver for using my Intel 536ep winmodem in ubuntu 10.04!
My original question didn't give enough info.... . :D

Have you ever set up a DU Modem in Linux?
Gnome PPP (KPPP) works the same in most Distros.
Your Winmodem MIGHT not work in Linux as it is partly supported by software (Windows)
The best way to set up Dial Up in Linux Seems to be with an external modem with a serial port.
Also you ISP have to allow you to use Linux.Netzero Don't,Toast Do,So make sure you have an ISP that allow you to use Linux they will offer no Cust. Support.
Good Luck :) :)
Also Many of the cheap USB Modems Works (Zoom USB Mini ,Model 3095 Works in Linux Mint 10)
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Re: Dial-up modem config. easier in Mint for noobs?

Postby AlbertP on Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:38 am

You don't have to ask your ISP for Linux support - they'll usually answer "no" even though many of them aren't blocking Linux dial-up.
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Re: Dial-up modem config. easier in Mint for noobs?

Postby OldManHook on Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:20 pm

AlbertP wrote:You don't have to ask your ISP for Linux support - they'll usually answer "no" even though many of them aren't blocking Linux dial-up.



But for Linux DU to work your ISP have to provide you with DNS #'s, Authentication what phone #'s to use all #'s will not direct connect,many ISP's will not provide this Info. :)
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Re: Dial-up modem config. easier in Mint for noobs?

Postby AlbertP on Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:45 am

On Windows I also need to type phone number, username, and password which I've gotten from my ISP. I can use the same data on Linux.
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Re: Dial-up modem config. easier in Mint for noobs?

Postby OldManHook on Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:46 pm

AlbertP wrote:On Windows I also need to type phone number, username, and password which I've gotten from my ISP. I can use the same data on Linux.



Could you please post or link How to do this (USA) without info from your ISP? As for Windows The Software do the setup.
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Re: Dial-up modem config. easier in Mint for noobs?

Postby AlbertP on Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:13 am

Perhaps there are ISP's who are having their own Windows software for dial-up, instead of providing a phone number, username and password. But at least my ISP has given those data which I have to enter in Windows' dialer or Gnome-PPP. I don't use dial-up anymore but as my current internet connection is from the same ISP the username and password still work.
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Re: Dial-up modem config. easier in Mint for noobs?

Postby lexrexus on Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:32 pm

All moot, but thank you.
My isp, A1isp, has helped me with Linux.
DU is dilal-up, I'm guessing.
Bottom line is mint is about the same for winmodems as ubuntu...
And most of you use faster. : ]


I have an external modem, a Robotics Sportster, but I hook it up and
....nothing.

If I had an external that I could get working, I understand that I wouldn't have to update a driver with kernel upgrades, , is that true?
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Re: Dial-up modem config. easier in Mint for noobs?

Postby AlbertP on Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:15 am

If you upgrade to a newer kernel version, you indeed get support for more hardware.
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Re: Dial-up modem config. easier in Mint for noobs?

Postby yaye on Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:37 pm

lexrexus wrote:All moot, but thank you.
My isp, A1isp, has helped me with Linux.
DU is dilal-up, I'm guessing.
Bottom line is mint is about the same for winmodems as ubuntu...
And most of you use faster. : ]


I have an external modem, a Robotics Sportster, but I hook it up and
....nothing.


This reminds of using Redhat in the late 1990's. I used internal ISA (non-winmodem) US Robotics & Zoom modems. I used this how-to to setup my Internet connection: http://www.knowplace.org/pages/morgue/t ... _howto.php

Another how-to with with screenshots: http://www.eskimo.com/support/Gnome-PPP.html

What is the model of the model number of the USR external modem? Did you give yourself permission to "Use modems" and "Connect to the Internet using a modem" in the User Privileges of Advanced Settings of Users and Groups? As long as it has a serial port connection and a telephone jack, it should be possible to make it work. I still have the ISA 56K modems in the closet. :D

lexrexus wrote:If I had an external that I could get working, I understand that I wouldn't have to update a driver with kernel upgrades, , is that true?


Yes, any operating system that supports serial ports can use an external modem with a serial port, without needing special drivers for the chipset.
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Re: Dial-up modem config. easier in Mint for noobs?

Postby lexrexus on Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:42 am

Hi,

US Robotics faxmodem 56k model 0701 or maybe its 22sbaac9fks8 or maybe its sportster 005686-03

In groups/permissions dialup is listed for me, and users, and root.

How do I tell if my serial port is enabled by the OS?

The sportster has a pretty red light on it when turned on. : ]


I have my winmodem working in kubuntu 10.04 until the kernel is changed.
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Re: Dial-up modem config. easier in Mint for noobs?

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Re: Dial-up modem config. easier in Mint for noobs?

Postby yaye on Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:56 pm

It would be highly unusual for any version of Linux to not support serial ports. Have you tried using gnome-ppp? If not, open a terminal and type: gksu gnome-ppp . You can then click the "Setup" button and configure the program to use the external modem.

Addendum: I'm using Linux Mint Debian Edition and I haven't used GNOME-PPP in such a long time, I didn't realise GNOME-PPP is in the Internet Section of the menu.
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Re: Dial-up modem config. easier in Mint for noobs?

Postby lexrexus on Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:48 am

Sudo kppp
brought up the kde equivalent.
Looks interesting. When offline I'll hook up external again and unplug isa winmodem and see if kppp can query the hardware modem -
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Re: Dial-up modem config. easier in Mint for noobs?

Postby yaye on Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:04 pm

lexrexus wrote:Sudo kppp
brought up the kde equivalent.
Looks interesting. When offline I'll hook up external again and unplug isa winmodem and see if kppp can query the hardware modem -
Thank you.


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