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Re: Get classic Mint desktop in Gnome shell

Postby bimsebasse on Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:44 pm

esteban1uy wrote:
Monsta wrote:Well, if you run the shell as root it would probably seek for new extensions in /root/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions... no?


That's right. That's a good reason to prefer /etc/share/... for the location of the extensions.


Not quite sure what either of you mean - you can put extensions in ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ or in /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ - the latter is for all users, the former for your user. My shell starts to act up if there are extensions in the local folder and I go in root mode, is all :)
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Re: Get classic Mint desktop in Gnome shell

Postby esteban1uy on Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:08 pm

bimsebasse wrote:Not quite sure what either of you mean - you can put extensions in ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ or in /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ - the latter is for all users, the former for your user. My shell starts to act up if there are extensions in the local folder and I go in root mode, is all :)


Did you try LookingGlass? If there are any extension conflict it will show something like "Error: extension whatever already started..." or "Unable to load extension blah blah blah...".
Give it a try.
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Re: Get classic Mint desktop in Gnome shell

Postby nidwow on Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:22 pm

How do I stop this notifications?

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Re: Get classic Mint desktop in Gnome shell

Postby esteban1uy on Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:03 pm

nidwow wrote:How do I stop this notifications?

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Hmmm... I really don't know... cause I like those notifications, did you try enabling and disabling the notifications extension?
Well, those are really system messages.
Let me see...

The part of gnome-shell dealing that is in /js/ui/notificationDaemon.js, I will try to study that code...

Ok. Bad news. There seems to be a lot of things that can trigger those notifications: mounting a drive, connecting to a network or loosing a connection, finishing a file download, etc., and there is no easy way (for me) to change which of them must show or not.
It also seems to be something desiderable to have those notifications, because even in MATE are trying to implement them (look at the systems settings in MATE and you will find a popups notifications configurator!).
It doesn't seems very smart to put our hands on that thing.
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Re: Get classic Mint desktop in Gnome shell

Postby nidwow on Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:21 pm

esteban1uy wrote:Let me see...

The part of gnome-shell dealing that is in /js/ui/notificationDaemon.js, I will try to study that code...

Ok. Bad news. There seems to be a lot of things that can trigger those notifications: mounting a drive, connecting to a network or loosing a connection, finishing a file donwnload, etc., and there is no easy way (for me) to change which of them must show or not.
It also seems to be something desiderable to have those notifications, because even in MATE are trying to implement them (look at the systems settings in MATE and you will find a popups notifications configurator!).
It doesn't seem very smart to put our hands on that thing.


Uh, I see. I thought somehow I missed the setting or something. Didn't mean to have you digging through the codes and all. What you and the other did on this very thread was already enough. Thanks to you and the other, I now have a really cool looking (to me) LM12RC :mrgreen:

I am very happy with it for the most part. If I can get rid of that notification and one other thing I don't know what you call it. Its pop ups when you move the mouse cursor all the way down to the lower right corner of the screen.

Again, thanks for what you and the other did for the tweaking.
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Re: Get classic Mint desktop in Gnome shell

Postby esteban1uy on Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:46 pm

nidwow wrote: If I can get rid of that notification and one other thing I don't know what you call it. Its pop ups when you move the mouse cursor all the way down to the lower right corner of the screen.


Well... that thing that pops when you reach your very very bottom right corner is the original gnome-shell message tray. There you will see the icons of the mounted pendrives, external drives, etc. It is quite useful if you don't want to see your only panel cluttered with icons!
It stays hidden and only shows when you plug something in or by hitting the very corner so I don't find it particularly disturbing. Even more, let's say you are using an application that is maximized and you want to unmount an external drive you have plugged. You don't have to leave the application window nor change its size, nor minimize it, just hit that corner and unmount the drive with the popup bar!
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Re: Get classic Mint desktop in Gnome shell

Postby Kevin108 on Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:41 pm

Who wants to roll of this stuff into a script so lazy people can click or issue a single command? :D
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Re: Get classic Mint desktop in Gnome shell

Postby esteban1uy on Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:26 am

Kevin108 wrote:Who wants to roll of this stuff into a script so lazy people can click or issue a single command? :D


Hmmm... tweaking is like cooking: it tastes better when you know how it was done.
I know it is tedious to manually edit some files, but that's the only way to be sure you can revert any tweak, cause you know how you made it.

Now a trick to fix those shell-themes that show maximized windows running behind the bottom panel.

At a terminal do a sudo nautilus and go to the faulty theme folder (/urs/share/themes/ or /home/personal folder/.themes/).
Inside the theme folder you will find another folder named "gnome-shell" and inside that, a file named "gnome-shell.css": open it.
Now search for the "#panel" entry, it will look somehow like this:

Code: Select all
#panel {
    color: #fff;
    background-gradient-direction: vertical;
    background-gradient-start: rgba(255,255,255,0.21);
    background-gradient-end: rgba(255,255,255,0.15);
    box-shadow: inset 0px 1px 3px 0px rgba(255,255,255,0.3);
    border: 1px solid rgba(0,0,0,0.2);
    border-top: 0;
    border-left: 0;
    border-right: 0;
    font-size: 9pt;
    font-weight: bold;
    height: 2.1em;
}


What you have to do is to increase the value assigned of the "height" parameter. If it is 24px, try 26px or 28px and so forth, taking care of saving the file and restarting the shell to see what happens. At certain point you will see that maximized windows don't run behind the bottom panel, so you got it.
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Re: Get classic Mint desktop in Gnome shell

Postby nidwow on Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:07 am

@esteban1uy

Just got a chance to install the GSE weather. How do I flip the details weather to display above the panel? Since I moved the top panel to the bottom, seems the details weather is displaying out of my screen area toward the bottom.

I can get the detail to display correctly if I move the panel back to it's original location (top).

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Re: Get classic Mint desktop in Gnome shell

Postby Daniel4lm on Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:13 am

nidwow wrote:@esteban1uy

Just got a chance to install the GSE weather. How do I flip the details weather to display above the panel? Since I moved the top panel to the bottom, seems the details weather is displaying out of my screen area toward the bottom.

I can get the detail to display correctly if I move the panel back to it's original location (top).

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The same thing happens to me with some other extensions (eg CPU temperature ext.). Menu opens downward. I think we should see the code and change something.
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Re: Get classic Mint desktop in Gnome shell

Postby esteban1uy on Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:16 am

Let me see...
I really don't remember been changing anything in that extension...
Are you sure you restarted gnome-shell after moving the panel to the bottom?
I'm going to run a diff between the file I'm currently using and the one you can download to see if something has changed.

Nope... I'm using exactly the same extension that comes with the package. But mine popups upwards... so, I don't know.
Again, are you sure you restarted gnome-shell (Alt+F2 r) after moving the panel?

Daniel4lm wrote:The same thing happens to me with some other extensions (eg CPU temperature ext.). Menu opens downward. I think we should see the code and change something.


I don't use CPU temp. extension, but I think you can tweak it the same way we did with window list extension, did you try?
I'm going to take a look at the code at the author's github...
Ok, it seems that CPU temp. was coded for Gnome-shell 3.0, not for 3.2, and then kindly adapted by a contributor. So it is reasonable to think that reflections extension couldn't deal with it.
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Re: Get classic Mint desktop in Gnome shell

Postby nidwow on Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:16 am

esteban1uy wrote:Let me see...
Again, are you sure you restarted gnome-shell (Alt+F2 r) after moving the panel?


Umm, I restarted gnome-shell many times since I was doing something else that require it. Didn't help. However I have to reboot my PC and use Windows 7 :shock: for some other task then boot back to LM12 now my details weather is on the above now. I have no idea :roll:
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Re: Get classic Mint desktop in Gnome shell

Postby MrD on Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:27 am

nidwow wrote:
esteban1uy wrote:Let me see...
Again, are you sure you restarted gnome-shell (Alt+F2 r) after moving the panel?


Umm, I restarted gnome-shell many times since I was doing something else that require it. Didn't help. However I have to reboot my PC and use Windows 7 :shock: for some other task then boot back to LM12 now my details weather is on the above now. I have no idea :roll:


I have found out that the shell restart DOES NOT do what it should 100% of the time, not even 50%. I need to log out and in again to make the Advanced Settings work properly like it should. I don't know why it is behaving so badly.
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Re: Get classic Mint desktop in Gnome shell

Postby saxoli on Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:30 am

Hello everyone !

Thanks for all the workarounds and mods to get the mint feeling back again.

But I'm just not so happy with the new MintMenu.

Found this:
http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/cardapio ... shell.html

It's almost as good as the "old" MintMenu.

Is it possible to get this one to the right place, bottom left, replace the used gnome-menu-logo and we are done !!!!

Maybe a little transparency like the bottom panel ...??

I've tried by my self to get into the code, but it seems äähm... I'm just a user :wink:

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Re: Get classic Mint desktop in Gnome shell

Postby esteban1uy on Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:33 am

MrD wrote:I have found out that the shell restart DOES NOT do what it should 100% of the time, not even 50%. I need to log out and in again to make the Advanced Settings work properly like it should. I don't know why it is behaving so badly.


As Bono said: "It's alright, it's alright, alright. She moves in mysterious ways..."
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Re: Get classic Mint desktop in Gnome shell

Postby esteban1uy on Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:46 am

saxoli wrote:Hello everyone !

Thanks for all the workarounds and mods to get the mint feeling back again.

But I'm just not so happy with the new MintMenu.

Found this:
http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/cardapio ... shell.html

It's almost as good as the "old" MintMenu.

Is it possible to get this one to the right place, bottom left, replace the used gnome-menu-logo and we are done !!!!

Maybe a little transparency like the bottom panel ...??

I've tried by my self to get into the code, but it seems äähm... I'm just a user :wink:

Greetings,

Oliver


I've been thinking the same... but making that Cardapio menu work as MGSE's menu does implies rewriting its extension completely, cause MGSE's menu takes care of many things, not only displaying a menu. That's some kind of frankensteinian work.
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Re: Get classic Mint desktop in Gnome shell

Postby Monsta on Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:57 am

If this Cardapio proves to be more convenient than the current MintMenu extension, it would be a nice stimulus for improving MintMenu and making it close to the good old Gnome 2 (or MATE) MintMenu :D
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Re: Get classic Mint desktop in Gnome shell

Postby esteban1uy on Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:27 am

Monsta wrote:If this Cardapio proves to be more convenient than the current MintMenu extension, it would be a nice stimulus for improving MintMenu and making it close to the good old Gnome 2 (or MATE) MintMenu :D


Well, that Cardapio menu and its extension is some kind of an hybrid between a dock and an extension applet. It seems that the extension part works just like a "launcher" for the real Cardapio thingy, which, by the way, is not coded in javascript. I think it would be even easier to adapt the real MintMenu to the extensions system than trying to make that Cardapio resemble it.
Do this experiment: open a terminal and type mintmenu, wait a little and see what happens... aha!
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Re: Get classic Mint desktop in Gnome shell

Postby nidwow on Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:27 am

MrD wrote:
nidwow wrote:
esteban1uy wrote:Let me see...
Again, are you sure you restarted gnome-shell (Alt+F2 r) after moving the panel?


Umm, I restarted gnome-shell many times since I was doing something else that require it. Didn't help. However I have to reboot my PC and use Windows 7 :shock: for some other task then boot back to LM12 now my details weather is on the above now. I have no idea :roll:


I have found out that the shell restart DOES NOT do what it should 100% of the time, not even 50%. I need to log out and in again to make the Advanced Settings work properly like it should. I don't know why it is behaving so badly.



Oops, I speak too soon hahaha. Came back from outside turn the PC back on and details weather no longer work. Now all tricks, restart GS or reboot won't work :evil:

Nothing major, I can live without it. After all GS, Gnome 3 and all these still new. I guess it needs a lot of time to mature :mrgreen:
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Re: Get classic Mint desktop in Gnome shell

Postby esteban1uy on Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:43 am

nidwow wrote:Oops, I speak too soon hahaha. Came back from outside turn the PC back on and details weather no longer work. Now all tricks, restart GS or reboot won't work :evil:

Nothing major, I can live without it. After all GS, Gnome 3 and all these still new. I guess it needs a lot of time to mature :mrgreen:


Let's try another way.

Press Alt+F2 and type lg at the promt, then hit Enter key. When you're done you can exit that window with the Esc key.
There (LookingGlass) go to the "Errors" pane and take a look. Take note of what you find and tell us.

If there is some kind of conflict between extensions, LookingGlass will give us a clue.

Something that nobody takes into account is that faulty extensions, even if they're not enabled, can interfere with the others.
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