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Re: Gnome3 for the experienced (FUN Stuff!!!)

Postby viking777 on Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:38 pm

michaelzap wrote:
viking777 wrote:Gene, your signature says that on one of your installations you are tracking sid and yet you are using Gnome-shell 3.2.
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I also upgraded my LMDE system to GNOME 3.2 and I'm currently tracking unstable. The trick is that you cannot dist-upgrade to experimental, since the experimental repo just doesn't work that way. What you need to do is first dist-upgrade your system to the latest packages in unstable, and then you add the experimental repos and specify the packages to install from there.

To start out, at a minimum you need to install these meta-packages from experimental, like so:
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sudo apt-get install -t experimental gnome-shell gnome-session


I found that I also needed to install a lot of other things from experimental to get everything working right, but this is enough to get you started. I did this a while back, and a lot more packages have been updated in sid now, so you might not need to pull much more from experimental. You can check the current status of the GNOME 3.2 packages here.

Have fun!


That explains it then. Thanks michaelzap.
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Re: Gnome3 for the experienced (FUN Stuff!!!)

Postby GeneC on Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:55 pm

Hi viking.
Yes, Michael's got it right. He posted as I was gathering info.

Here is what I was about to post.


I dont think Liquorix is the issue.

Yes. My SID is updated to ALMOST a full Gnome 3.2. About 3 weeks ago I did a full DU on my LMDE_SID partition, then I temporarily enabled 'Experimental' and updated all of the Gnome 3.2 packages that would be allowed (without removing items.). Every other day or so I again enable 'Experimental' and check to see what more i can add. At the moment the only obvious gnome 3.2 package I haven't been albe to add is 'gnome-desktop3-data 3.2.1-2 from 3.0.2-2. It wants to remove most of the Gnome 3.2 packages arlready installed. As far as I can tell its the only upgradeable package to keep me from a full Gnome 3.2. I also am running LISA on another partition, and I can see very little difference between the two Gnome 3.2's (Gnome System Setting -old 'Control Center') is missing a few items, but all the rest appears fully functional. I am using 3.2 themes and MGSE extensions from Lisa.
I have upgrade all the other Gnome 3.0 to Gnome 3.2 packages, and libs that were 3.0 to 3.2.
You may have to upgrade a few at a time and recheck what is upgradeable. I didn't document this fully, as it was an experiment, but it went very well.

You can check here for Status of GNOME 3.2 in Debian
http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-3.2-status.html


As Gnome 3.2 is not yet fully upgradeable in Experimental, I would guess it will be at least a month (probably more) before its fully in Testing.
Nothing 'broke' in my upgrade to 3.2. The upgrade was pretty easy. :wink:
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Re: Gnome3 for the experienced (FUN Stuff!!!)

Postby xircon on Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:50 pm

+1 GeneC - I have the following left to upgrade (after I clone my drive - one bitten....):

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The following packages have been kept back:
apt apt-utils console-setup docky gnome-desktop3-data keyboard-configuration libsdl-perl python-numpy python-software-properties software-properties-gtk xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-r128
The following packages will be upgraded:
libegl1-mesa libegl1-mesa-dev libegl1-mesa-drivers libgl1-mesa-dev libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental libgl1-mesa-glx libglapi-mesa libglu1-mesa libglu1-mesa-dev libopenvg1-mesa mesa-common-dev xserver-common xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-intel
18 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 12 not upgraded.


This is with Sid/Experimental enabled.
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Re: Gnome3 for the experienced (FUN Stuff!!!)

Postby GeneC on Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:01 pm

Steve

I DID have to reinstall Nvidia after the mesa and xorg updates, but that is pretty standard when Nvidia is installed with SMXI.
The Debian DKMS Nvidia install no longer worked for me. :wink:
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Re: Gnome3 for the experienced (FUN Stuff!!!)

Postby xircon on Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:05 pm

Yeh, realise that, mines ATI and they are shot to pieces ATM, so I am being over cautious (for the first time ever)
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Re: Gnome3 for the experienced (FUN Stuff!!!)

Postby GregE on Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:30 pm

xircon wrote:Weather App


Hi, I think you are missing a json lib. Have a look through experimental searching on json and ensure you have all the bits. I cannot say which files exactly as I just grabbed what I though looked relevant. The weather app uses json data from Yahoo and then sorts it through the json libraries. I am using the weather app from WebUp8 and running 3.2 on top of Sid and it works fine. My city code is ASXX0075.

Mine has been like yours in the past and fiddly with json libs made it better. Running Sid as the base might be necessary, but I cannot say that for sure.
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Re: Gnome3 for the experienced (FUN Stuff!!!)

Postby xircon on Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:11 pm

Just installed everything that looked reasonable, a lot of dross as well, still not working.
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Re: Gnome3 for the experienced (FUN Stuff!!!)

Postby inkheart on Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:07 pm

xircon wrote:Anyone having trouble with the weather extension? It just will not update to my (or any) location, just shows as a circular arrow.

Same here, no way to save changes in Preferences.
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Re: Gnome3 for the experienced (FUN Stuff!!!)

Postby cbowman57 on Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:06 am

inkheart wrote:
xircon wrote:Anyone having trouble with the weather extension? It just will not update to my (or any) location, just shows as a circular arrow.

Same here, no way to save changes in Preferences.


Did you try changing them with dconf-editor?
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Re: Gnome3 for the experienced (FUN Stuff!!!)

Postby xircon on Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:44 am

Mine appears to save the settings, it just never displays the weather.

Could somebody with a working extension tar.gz it up and dropbox or similar? or email - xirconuk at gmail dot com.

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Re: Gnome3 for the experienced (FUN Stuff!!!)

Postby viking777 on Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:19 am

GeneC wrote:Hi viking.
Yes, Michael's got it right. He posted as I was gathering info.

As Gnome 3.2 is not yet fully upgradeable in Experimental, I would guess it will be at least a month (probably more) before its fully in Testing.
Nothing 'broke' in my upgrade to 3.2. The upgrade was pretty easy. :wink:


Thanks for replying anyway Gene. I have never used experimental before so I wrongly thought it worked the same as all the other branches.

I don't think I want to go to all that bother just to get the 3.2 shell when I already have it on Fedora. Like I said, I will just wait until LMDE testing catches up. :)
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Re: Gnome3 for the experienced (FUN Stuff!!!)

Postby cbowman57 on Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:21 pm

xircon wrote:Mine appears to save the settings, it just never displays the weather.

Could somebody with a working extension tar.gz it up and dropbox or similar? or email - xirconuk at gmail dot com.

Cheers.


Working weather extension configuration in dconf-editor.

At some point someone else is going to be looking for this too. :)

Sounds like either this isn't correct or the woeid isn't working for you.
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Re: Gnome3 for the experienced (FUN Stuff!!!)

Postby xircon on Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:34 pm

Can you zip up the folder from extensions and email to me? xirconuk@gmail.com, probably 7zip would be best knowing Gmail.

I am wondering if it is the theme I am using doing something "non standard" going to revert now BRB.

:EDIT: My applet is different - it has refresh-interval under position-in-panel. Have set my theme to default - no difference, set refresh time from 240 to 10, no difference.

Can someone send me their working version, pretty please :D
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Re: Gnome3 for the experienced (FUN Stuff!!!)

Postby xircon on Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:52 pm

On other matters:

https://extensions.gnome.org/

Appears to be "live" only works on Firefox and doesn't work for me or I am doing it wrong (as my girlfriend always complains........ ;))
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Re: Gnome3 for the experienced (FUN Stuff!!!)

Postby GeneC on Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:00 pm

xircon wrote:Can you zip up the folder from extensions and email to me? xirconuk@gmail.com, probably 7zip would be best knowing Gmail.

I am wondering if it is the theme I am using doing something "non standard" going to revert now BRB.

:EDIT: My applet is different - it has refresh-interval under position-in-panel. Have set my theme to default - no difference, set refresh time from 240 to 10, no difference.

Can someone send me their working version, pretty please :D


Steve

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Re: Gnome3 for the experienced (FUN Stuff!!!)

Postby xircon on Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:39 pm

Thanks Gene & Chuck, giving up, it is completely £%""%"% now, the shell crashes if I turn on the weather extension. Going to delete it. Life is too short :)

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Re: Gnome3 for the experienced (FUN Stuff!!!)

Postby GregE on Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:32 pm

xircon wrote:Thanks Gene & Chuck, giving up, it is completely £%""%"% now, the shell crashes if I turn on the weather extension. Going to delete it. Life is too short :)

Steve


Steve,

Which weather app were you using? There are several out there. Mine is from WebUp8.

This page is one of the originals and gives all the gsettings commands to configure the app. You also need libglib2.0-dev. There are verions for Gnome 3.0 and 3.2

https://github.com/simon04/gnome-shell- ... on-weather
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Re: Gnome3 for the experienced (FUN Stuff!!!)

Postby xircon on Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:35 pm

So was mine, it just would not work. But never mind, deleted it now.

Has any one tried the Gnome extensions site? I can't get that to work either.
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Re: Gnome3 for the experienced (FUN Stuff!!!)

Postby GregE on Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:38 pm

xircon wrote:So was mine, it just would not work. But never mind, deleted it now.

Has any one tried the Gnome extensions site? I can't get that to work either.


You answered before I edited the previous entry. Try the link above and also look at FPMurphy.
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Re: Gnome3 for the experienced (FUN Stuff!!!)

Postby GregE on Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:44 pm

You also need gir1.2-gtop-2.0 and dconf-gsettings-backend

And gnome-common if you want to try manual install.
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