[SOLVED]Just curious, how much longer is LM10 supported for?

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[SOLVED]Just curious, how much longer is LM10 supported for?

Postby tek_heretik on Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:35 am

11 wouldn't install cleanly on my Raid like 10 did (I did a workaround, but ech, prefer only one Raid volume), 12 is pretty and all but I am not ready for a 'smartphone' GUI. Just wunderin how long before I am forced to upgrade.
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Re: Just curious, how much longer is LM10 supported for?

Postby Pierre on Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:56 am

Mint 10 is not a LTS- which has a Three Year cycle of support. ( Mint 5 Mint 9 Mint 13)

so, therefore it has a Two Year support cycle.
& since it has now been available for a year, it therefore has another year of support, to go.

So what happens then?.

- the package list that Synaptic uses, will cease to exist.
- the mint 10 itself will keep working, regardless of the lack of updates.
- you can just keep on "using the thing" for as long as it still suits your needs.

As a example of this scenario:-

I have a Compaq EVO N880c that now has had Mint 5 ( Elyssa) install on it , for about 3 -4 years.

I quite recently upgraded both FF 3.5 to FF 5 (which is continuing to auto-update)
& Opera up to V10 ( which also auto-updates itself)
but had in manually install them, as Synaptic won't install them.

aside from those two things, - I haven't changed anything else & it still works just fine.

I use a Netgear dongle to get it onto the 'net.
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Re: Just curious, how much longer is LM10 supported for?

Postby tek_heretik on Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:19 am

Thanks for your thorough answer Pierre. Who knows, might give 12 an install test whirl on my Raid. =/
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Re: [SOLVED]Just curious, how much longer is LM10 supported

Postby mtnbiker72 on Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:23 pm

I believe the non-LTS versions based on Ubuntu (as LM10 is) are actually 18 month support cycle so support will expire sometime around May 2012.

In addition the new Ubuntu 12.04 LTS will have 5 years of support for the desktop (previous versions had 3 year support) so I would assume LM13 will have five years as well.
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Re: [SOLVED]Just curious, how much longer is LM10 supported

Postby cwwgateway on Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:48 pm

Yes, non LTS versions of Mint have an 18 month support cycle, so in April 2012 it will stop being supported. Just as a side note, LM 12 has MATE, which is a fork of gnome 2, which can be made pretty easily to look exactly like Mint 10.
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Re: [SOLVED]Just curious, how much longer is LM10 supported

Postby tek_heretik on Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:37 pm

cwwgateway wrote:Just as a side note, LM 12 has MATE, which is a fork of gnome 2, which can be made pretty easily to look exactly like Mint 10.


Umm, not exactly, it has MGSE, it's NOT mate, read the original release notes. :wink:
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Re: [SOLVED]Just curious, how much longer is LM10 supported

Postby cwwgateway on Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:49 pm

It has both in the DVD version. They are both in the release notes:
MATE

MATE is a fork of Gnome 2 which is compatible with Gnome 3. Thanks to MATE, you can run both versions of Gnome on the same system.

MATE with Caja and mintMenu

MATE is present on the DVD edition of Linux Mint 12. Users of the CD edition can install it via the mint-meta-mate package.

MATE is brand new, it's not completely stable yet, and it's missing a few parts. It's being actively maintained and with close collaboration between the MATE developers and Linux Mint. With time the project will gain maturity and provide users with a traditional and solid desktop experience.

Eventually, MATE will be in every way identical to Gnome 2 and represent the future of traditional desktops within Linux.

In Linux Mint 12, both mintDesktop (in the RC) and mintMenu (in the stable release) are adapted and receive full support to work with MATE.


They have improved MATE a lot since the release, and I find it to be stable now.
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Re: [SOLVED]Just curious, how much longer is LM10 supported

Postby tek_heretik on Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:38 am

cwwgateway wrote:It has both in the DVD version. They are both in the release notes:
MATE

MATE is a fork of Gnome 2 which is compatible with Gnome 3. Thanks to MATE, you can run both versions of Gnome on the same system.

MATE with Caja and mintMenu

MATE is present on the DVD edition of Linux Mint 12. Users of the CD edition can install it via the mint-meta-mate package.

MATE is brand new, it's not completely stable yet, and it's missing a few parts. It's being actively maintained and with close collaboration between the MATE developers and Linux Mint. With time the project will gain maturity and provide users with a traditional and solid desktop experience.

Eventually, MATE will be in every way identical to Gnome 2 and represent the future of traditional desktops within Linux.

In Linux Mint 12, both mintDesktop (in the RC) and mintMenu (in the stable release) are adapted and receive full support to work with MATE.


They have improved MATE a lot since the release, and I find it to be stable now.


Huh? Where did you get that from? And even if it is real, NOT STABLE, NOT FINISHED. I remember reading the notes and all I saw was MGSE this and MGSE that, until MATE arrives (MGSE being a temporary 'soother' until MATE is ready). I think I know what is going on here, MATE was NOT installed by default but there for testing, so we are both right, the average newbie user kicking the tires is NOT going to dig down deep for an unfinished MATE, let alone even know what it is.
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Re: [SOLVED]Just curious, how much longer is LM10 supported

Postby cwwgateway on Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:54 pm

MATE is included on the dvd edition. I got that quote from the release notes. Here is a screenshot:
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MATE is, in my opinion, basically stable now. If you read the quote, which is from about a month ago, it says "it's not completely stable yet." I would like to point out the "yet," and say that it should at least be tried. It is very easy to access, simply log out, click the gear icon next to your name in the login screen, select "MATE" from the drop-down menu, and login. It is a bit ugly, but once you change the theme it can be made to look almost (if not completely) like previous versions of Linux Mint. Finally, if you go to linuxmint.com, and look at the Linux Mint 12 release, it has 2 pictures, one of mgse and one of mate, and says next to it "Linux Mint 12 featuring Gnome 3 and MATE!" Here is a screenshot:
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Re: [SOLVED]Just curious, how much longer is LM10 supported

Postby tek_heretik on Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:03 am

@cwwgateway Ok ok, fine, it's present on the DVD, does present mean active in a live boot? I coulda swore it was MGSE only unless you activated Mate. Meh, I concede, yer right, my bad. :wink: 8)
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Re: [SOLVED]Just curious, how much longer is LM10 supported

Postby cwwgateway on Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:49 pm

As far as I know, you can't boot into mate from a live cd/dvd/usb, only into Gnome 3/MGSE or the fallback if your hardware doesn't support acceleration. So it isn't active during the live session, but once you install it it is there. However, when you install Linux Mint, Gnome 3/MGSE is the default login session. So I agree that it is much less noticeable than MGSE.
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