Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby KBD47 on Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:50 pm

:( not sure why I'm having so much trouble:
apt-get install mate-archive-keyring
E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby stefano-k on Sat Dec 24, 2011 7:10 pm

KBD47 wrote::( not sure why I'm having so much trouble:
apt-get install mate-archive-keyring
E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?


sorry...

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sudo apt-get install mate-archive-keyring
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby KBD47 on Sat Dec 24, 2011 7:33 pm

Thanks! mate settings daemon 1.0.0-1 is what shows up in synaptic package manager even with the tridex repo enabled for some reason. I'm set for wheezy, is there a sid repo I should be using?
Thanks again.
And Merry Christmas folks!
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby Amanas on Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:11 pm

KBD47 wrote:Thanks! mate settings daemon 1.0.0-1 is what shows up in synaptic package manager even with the tridex repo enabled for some reason. I'm set for wheezy, is there a sid repo I should be using?
Thanks again.
And Merry Christmas folks!
KBD47


Try adding the tridex repo before packages.linuxmint.com in /etc/apt/sources.list.
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby stovenator on Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:20 am

stefano-k wrote:HI,
I packaged mate-indicator-applet, but today I cannot test it on ubuntu... Can you try it and report here if it works?

You can download it here: http://mate.karapetsas.com/download/mat ... 1_i386.deb

or http://mate.karapetsas.com/download/mat ... 1_i386.deb for debian.

Thanks!


Would love to try, but need amd64 version.
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby ron1 on Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:14 am

stefano-k wrote:Yes, use the Tridex repo. See here: http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/doku.php/download#ubuntu


Yeah...see, the problem is that this version of Mate still has the issue with certain themes causing your CPU to get pounded. On some themes it works fine, but on others my CPU utilizations jumps through the roof.

I know that the Mint version had a fix for this that cleared it up; something to do with how something was packaged, or what a particular something was packaged with. I can't remember the details off hand. Does anyone know where I might get this fix from? Is there a way to get the updated version of Mate that Mint offers?

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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby ron1 on Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:58 am

KBD47 wrote::( not sure why I'm having so much trouble:
apt-get install mate-archive-keyring
E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?


I think that usually happens when you have another package manager open and/or running. Were you currently or previously installing another package?
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby stefano-k on Sun Dec 25, 2011 5:11 am

stovenator wrote:Would love to try, but need amd64 version.


amd64 ubuntu package: http://mate.karapetsas.com/download/mat ... _amd64.deb

amd64 debian package: http://mate.karapetsas.com/download/mat ... _amd64.deb
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby Durden on Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:09 am

Hi, i'm just trying to add the mate-power-manager but i can't get it to work (as my linux skills are very limited).
What i've done up to now:
My sources.list file looks like this
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deb http://tridex.net/repo/ubuntu/ oneiric main
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ lisa main upstream import
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-security main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ oneiric partner
deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ oneiric free non-free

#deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu oneiric-getdeb apps
#deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu oneiric-getdeb games


I already managed to install the keyring too. but when i try:
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sudo apt-get install mate-power-manager


It doesnt work because there are missing dependencies [ i use the german mint version, i hope my translations are correct/meaningful]

it needs libmateconf, but that shouldn't get installed and mate-conf (>= 1.1.0) but 1.0.9-2 should get installed.
E: Problems can't get solved as i have broken packages.
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apt-cache policy mate-conf says
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  Installed: 1.0.9-2
  Candidate:    1.0.9-2
  Version table:
     1.1.0-1 0
        500 http://tridex.net/repo/ubuntu/ oneiric/main i386 Packages
 *** 1.0.9-2 0
        700 http://packages.linuxmint.com/ lisa/import i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


What do i have to do next?
I only made changes to the file in etc/apt/.
I found the mate-power-manager at the Software Managment tool, but there is no way to open it, i just gets seleted in the list and nothing happens.

EDIT: After renaming the preferences file in etc/apt/ and a couple of apt-get updates/upgrades it works perfectly now.
I just didn't understand it when reading the Thread the first time :)

But still having problems with hibernate and standby as every time i tried it the screen goes black (sometimes with a cursor symbol) but won't turn off the screen. And as i think the whole process to hibernate/go into standby is stuck somewhere, i can't wake up the system either.
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby kmb42vt on Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:04 pm

ron1 wrote:
stefano-k wrote:Yes, use the Tridex repo. See here: http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/doku.php/download#ubuntu


Yeah...see, the problem is that this version of Mate still has the issue with certain themes causing your CPU to get pounded. On some themes it works fine, but on others my CPU utilizations jumps through the roof.

I know that the Mint version had a fix for this that cleared it up; something to do with how something was packaged, or what a particular something was packaged with. I can't remember the details off hand. Does anyone know where I might get this fix from? Is there a way to get the updated version of Mate that Mint offers?

Ron


Ron - In a nutshell:

1.Open the Update Manager
2. Click on “Edit”->”Software Sources”
3. Enable “Unstable packages (Romeo)”
4. Click on “Close”
5. Click on “Refresh”
6.Sort the list of updates by version number
7. Apply all updates which version is “2.24.6-0ubuntu5linuxmint1″

Here's the reference post on the Linux Mint blog which explains the whole thing.

http://blog.linuxmint.com/?paged=3

If there's no updates to be seen it probably means the fix came out of 'Romeo' (unstable) and into the 'official' updates already. I only say that because I did a full reload of Linux Mint 12 yesterday and applied the official updates. After that I enabled "Romeo" under Software Sources and no further updates were seen so it seems the "fix" went official.
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby stefano-k on Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:14 pm

To enable tridex repository in linux mint: http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/doku.php/d ... linux_mint (thanks to stovenator for the tip).
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby ron1 on Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:15 pm

Ron - In a nutshell:

1.Open the Update Manager
2. Click on “Edit”->”Software Sources”
3. Enable “Unstable packages (Romeo)”
4. Click on “Close”
5. Click on “Refresh”
6.Sort the list of updates by version number
7. Apply all updates which version is “2.24.6-0ubuntu5linuxmint1″



I'm not running Mint on this particular laptop, so Romeo does not show up as an option. As I understand it, Romeo is a part of the Mint repository, so if I enable it and use it I am likely going to have to reinstall the system again since using the Mint repository creates havoc on this particular system.

I enabled the Tridex repository and downloaded the latest from there, but it seems to still have the bug with the themes and cpu utilization. It seems I'll need to wait awhile before using Mate on this particular computer. Until then my main Mint computer is working beautifully with Mate.
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby KBD47 on Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:30 pm

ron1 wrote:
KBD47 wrote::( not sure why I'm having so much trouble:
apt-get install mate-archive-keyring
E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?


I think that usually happens when you have another package manager open and/or running. Were you currently or previously installing another package?


I finally got it. Thanks!
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby KBD47 on Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:34 pm

It's not the official way, but if you just can't get power management to work in MATE, you can install xfce4-power-manager in MATE, add it to your startup menu and the battery icon will appear in you panel. You can right click on it and configure power management. Alternately you can install xscreensaver and change settings using it. I did the latter on my desktop and the former on my netbook.
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby dolphin on Mon Dec 26, 2011 6:40 am

perberos,
Could you please implement Ctrl+Z feature in Caja (undo the latest action). It is in Nautilus Elementary 2.32.2. It's very useful feature and I miss it very much in Mate.
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby stefano-k on Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:00 am

dolphin wrote:perberos,
Could you please implement Ctrl+Z feature in Caja (undo the latest action). It is in Nautilus Elementary 2.32.2. It's very useful feature and I miss it very much in Mate.


interesting feature... can you ask this in our issue tracker?
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby dolphin on Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:12 am

stefano-k wrote:interesting feature... can you ask this in our issue tracker?

Do you mean Mint launchpad?

I also posted PM to perberos, so he should eventually get notified about this idea.
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby stefano-k on Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:16 am

dolphin wrote:Do you mean Mint launchpad? I also posted PM to perberos, so he should eventually get notified about this idea.


I mean here: https://github.com/perberos/Mate-Deskto ... ent/issues
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby dolphin on Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:38 am

stefano-k wrote:can you ask this in our issue tracker?

Done.
https://github.com/perberos/Mate-Deskto ... /issues/74
I read this:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/67310/wi ... -for-11-10
It seems that Nautilus Elementary will not be available any longer for Gnome 3.x
I didn't check Marlin yet, but I'd love to have this feature "out of the box" in Mate, and not have to install other file browser after installation of the system.
If you like the idea, vote for it, please.
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Re: Mate Desktop Environment - GNOME2 fork

Postby stefano-k on Mon Dec 26, 2011 6:44 pm



I implemented the undo/redo feature (it's already in github source). Just a few testing before packaging (it will go in caja 1.1.1).

I would like to take the opportunity to promote our new forum: http://forums.mate-desktop.org. We are looking for translators, too.
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