Same here, the Gnome that is.tdockery97 wrote:Just re-did my LMDE install with repos pointed to Squeeze. I want to have the Gnome 2 desktop for another 2 years or so.
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Re: POLL: Are you tracking new Mint Repo or "Debian Testing"
Re: POLL: Are you tracking new Mint Repo or "Debian Testing"
Really love LMDE BUT, have to have wine (decrypt my passwords file) and dvdstyler, must haves, could be a deal breaker/show stopper. =(
Re: POLL: Are you tracking new Mint Repo or "Debian Testing"
I've been running LMDE w/Sid+MATE, and I must say, it's all running very well.....I'm also running LM 12 Lisa on my other maching, also running MATE & Cinnamon on it.....great stuff....cheers everyone.
Andrew
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Re: POLL: Are you tracking new Mint Repo or "Debian Testing"
Me Too!tdockery97 wrote:While I have the latest update manager, like some of the other posters I don't want to wait and have 200 updates at once. I would rather do my updates the Debian way.
Re: POLL: Are you tracking new Mint Repo or "Debian Testing"
Tracking "Linux Mint LATEST" - because that is the only thing, that supports Compiz - please do not take it away from us.
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Ah! Sorry Eiver, but Gnome 2.3 has only a couple weeks life left in LMDE.eiver wrote:Tracking "Linux Mint LATEST" - because that is the only thing, that supports Compiz - please do not take it away from us.
Clem says that Update Pack 4 is coming in a couple weeks, and with that comes Gnome 3.2, Shell, Cinnamon, cant use Compiz there.
Not sure if MATE will come with the update pack, but if it doesn't, you can add it, and use Compiz.
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=198&t=87728
Re: POLL: Are you tracking new Mint Repo or "Debian Testing"
Currently I'm using Mint Latest, but I think about switching to Debian testing. I'm wondering what the advantage is when using Mint Latest. Updates last a long time (much more than the promised 1 month cycle). I cannot see any benefit on waiting for mint update packs. I'm still waiting for an update of the cups-filteres package.
Can someone enlighten me? What is the benefit of waiting for update packs? As I understand, this is only a snapshot of debian testing. Is there any development activity (bug fixing) by the Mint developers? What is the cause of this long delay?
Can someone enlighten me? What is the benefit of waiting for update packs? As I understand, this is only a snapshot of debian testing. Is there any development activity (bug fixing) by the Mint developers? What is the cause of this long delay?
Re: POLL: Are you tracking new Mint Repo or "Debian Testing"
Yes. Mint devs make sure that there are no breakages before releasing an update pack. Debian prides itself on 'stable' and LMDE is attempting to do the same. Debian is not marketed as bleeding edge although I have added sid repos to grab a fresh package from time to time.Bergschreck wrote:Is there any development activity (bug fixing) by the Mint developers? What is the cause of this long delay?
Re: POLL: Are you tracking new Mint Repo or "Debian Testing"
i am currently tracking LM Latest repo, but as soon as Debian Testing is frozen I will change my repos to track Debian Testing (as it will be as stable as latest repo and testing will be much safer - as it will fix the bugs and vulnerabilities quicker than Mint Latest).
Re: POLL: Are you tracking new Mint Repo or "Debian Testing"
I sincerely hope that I am doing this correctly, but I followed the instructions on this link:
http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/250
Therefore, I assume that I am tracking Debian unstable.
I upgraded OpenArena to 0.8.8-5/Debian and it works fine.
I'll try a couple of more packages, but I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be doing something else: such as general upgrades & updates for the whole system.
http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/250
Therefore, I assume that I am tracking Debian unstable.
I upgraded OpenArena to 0.8.8-5/Debian and it works fine.
I'll try a couple of more packages, but I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be doing something else: such as general upgrades & updates for the whole system.
Re: POLL: Are you tracking new Mint Repo or "Debian Testing"
there's only one way to know
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inxi -r
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cat /etc/apt/preferences
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Oh, yes! I love this...zerozero wrote:there's only one way to know
Should we be "reporting" our findings?
mame 0.146 unstable -> working well, so far.
I was presented with an option to replace my mame.ini file with the developer's new mame.ini, which I did.
/etc/mame/mame.ini was replaced and renamed to /etc/mame/mame.ini.dpkg-old
My mame.ini in ~/.mame/mame.ini remained untouched.
Xiphos 3.1.5(-webkit) unstable -> Appears to be working well.
I really wanted a pure Debian on my system, but "my" wireless made that too difficult.
I was admittedly put off at first by the eye candy and other things within Linux Mint, but I am very pleased with this.
Lubuntu was fast, but I encountered "System Errors" more often than I thought I should be,
I haven't had any system errors yet with LMDE.
My Openbox session is fast.
Testing unstable feels like the next best thing. I am very pleased.
I've been with Linux 5 or 6 months.
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Hi,
I am tracking Testing since 1,5 years.
I switched to the update packs for a while,
hopped the monthly cycle could be fulfitted.
But the long time period between UP3 and UP4
brought me back to Testing.
I also do not like the idea, having no security
updates for several months.
I even believe it is less critical to install about
some packages per day than several hundrets at once.
Regards
pAt
I am tracking Testing since 1,5 years.
I switched to the update packs for a while,
hopped the monthly cycle could be fulfitted.
But the long time period between UP3 and UP4
brought me back to Testing.
I also do not like the idea, having no security
updates for several months.
I even believe it is less critical to install about
some packages per day than several hundrets at once.
Regards
pAt
Re: POLL: Are you tracking new Mint Repo or "Debian Testing"
Since few days i tracking Testing/sid, because i love fresh chromium and updates is what i like, not in 1 time constantly 1.1gb, thats bloated i like lmde for some reason , lots less bleeding edge give much as possible updates and is much as possible stable.... i dont understand
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Re: POLL: Are you tracking new Mint Repo or "Debian Testing"
Hey @michelsberg, thanks for sharing thatmichelsberg wrote:I do mix testing, unstable and experimental using apt-pinning.
While packages are generally installed from testing, I like certain programs in userspace to be more up to date.
This is my configuration in /etc/apt/preferences:So far, this seems to work nicely.Code: Select all
Package: * Pin: release o=linuxmint Pin-Priority: 700 Package: * Pin: origin packages.linuxmint.com Pin-Priority: 700 # Package: * # Pin: release o=Debian # Pin-Priority: 500 # typically, we want to install from Debian testing Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 500 # we want to KNOW what's in unstable but not # install from there by default (lower prio) Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 200 # we want to KNOW what's in experimental but not # install from there by default (lower prio) Package: * Pin: release a=experimental Pin-Priority: 50 # ------------------------------------------------------------ # install some specific packages as they come into # the unstable repository # ------------------------------------------------------------ Package: evolution* geany* gimp* gthumb* guake* hugin* \ latexila* libreoffice* meld* nautilus* openshot* \ stellarium* transmission* wine* Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 650 # ------------------------------------------------------------ # install some specific packages as they come in from # upstream to the experimental repository # ------------------------------------------------------------ Package: liblensfun* darktable* Pin: release a=experimental Pin-Priority: 600
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Re: POLL: Are you tracking new Mint Repo or "Debian Testing"
I now have an old desktop running debian testing with the linux mint and solusos repos, so it has, in some cases, more up-to-date apps than sid. It's running xfce 4.8. My main laptop has Debian Sid Xfce with lots of different sources, here's the list (output of inxi -r):
That dual-boots with an LMDE latest with Cinnamon.
Edit: my apt-preferences has everything at 700 except experimental which has a priority of -1 except for icedove* and iceweasel* which have priorities of 900.
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Repos: Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bumblebee.list
deb http://suwako.nomanga.net/debian sid main contrib
deb-src http://suwako.nomanga.net/debian sid main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/googlechrome.list
deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/googleearth.list
deb http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb/ stable main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/linuxmint.list
deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import incoming
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/liquorix.list
deb http://liquorix.net/debian/ sid main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mozilla.list
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian experimental main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/multimedia.list
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main non-free
deb-src http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype.list
deb [arch=i386] http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xfcenext.list
deb http://packages.siduction.org/xfcenext unstable main
Edit: my apt-preferences has everything at 700 except experimental which has a priority of -1 except for icedove* and iceweasel* which have priorities of 900.
Re: POLL: Are you tracking new Mint Repo or "Debian Testing"
Debian testing that LMDE is using as its base is in freeze and should become the new stable (Debian sometime around Feb.ringo32 wrote:Since few days i tracking Testing/sid, because i love fresh chromium and updates is what i like, not in 1 time constantly 1.1gb, thats bloated i like lmde for some reason , lots less bleeding edge give much as possible updates and is much as possible stable.... i dont understand
Debian packages start in the experimental repo, migrate to Sid and then to testing. With testing in pre-release freeze Sid is pretty much in freeze too. The packages there are ones that are going to migrate to testing as bug fixes.
Debian does not use a date to determine the release. The release date is set by "critical release related" bugs. As of a couple days ago there were 155 release critical bugs left to fix for release to be possible under the Debian release policy.
What this means is that Sid is pretty damned stable right now.
The day Wheezy becomes the "new stable" (Squeeze will then be the "old stable" and supported for another year) Sid will have a HUGE package upgrade and will not be anywhere near as stable as it is now.
Testing will become Jessie and it too will get a Huge package upgrade when Wheezy goes stable. May not be very stable either although I had no trouble with the upgrade from Squeeze (then testing) to Wheezy the day Squeeze went to stable.
Not trying to discourage you in the least from using Sid, I am on Sid right now. Just a heads up that the very moment that Wheezy goes stable you will have a big update/upgrade cycle, similar to an Update Pack upgrade in LMDE. Those packages will be the start of Debian 8 (Jessie). They may or maynot be stable.
I highly recommend installing the package "apt-list bugs" on installs using the Debian testing or Sid repos. It will warn you of KNOWN bugs in packages you upgrade or install. You should keep in mind that you may be the lucky person to discover a new unknown bug. Old testers call that advenure FUN.
Re: POLL: Are you tracking new Mint Repo or "Debian Testing"
Debian stable on bare metal and in VM (KVM) LMDE incoming but I wish there would be two LMDE editions:
LMDE stable (which tracks debian stable) and get carefully tested mint packages (Cinnamon,...)
LMDE testing which should be a testbed for stable
LMDE stable (which tracks debian stable) and get carefully tested mint packages (Cinnamon,...)
LMDE testing which should be a testbed for stable